Spin off thread: Worst QB to ever start a game for MSU

[Willow Grove Dawg]

Damien Williams

Mullens was convinced that he could sign Josh Dobbs in 2013. Dobbs committed to Tennessee late & MSU flipped Damian Williams from Tulane.

 

[msudawg12]

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/mississippi-state/passing.html

Here are our all time QB's and stats.

That Chris Parson line is much worse than i remember

 

[FlotownDawg]

Tray Rutland transferred to Jackson State and couldn’t even win the starting job there. That’s how terrible he was.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Yall wish you could be Henig... man stepped out there and beat Alabama in Bryant Denny. ... and he is rich.

Obviously he is your friend. But he’s also the answer to this question. And it’s not his fault, it’s Croom’s.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Tony shell?

Idiotic

 

[champdawg.sixpack]

Idiotic

Quit hitting yourself in the face

 

[MSUDC11-2.0]

Tray Rutland. Had 1 career start vs Auburn in 06

12-25 for 82 yards for 3.3 yards per attempt. 0 TDs and 1 pick. Lost 34 to 0

This was the year we moved Omarr to receiver and Henig got hurt in week 1 vs South Carolina. After Rutland's performance we moved Omarr back to QB until Henig got healthy again

Rutland was my answer too. That dude was absolutely terrible. If I’m not mistaken, he also started the Tulane game the next week.where we lost to a 4-8 C-USA team that was still displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

 

[L4Dawg]

Orlando Lundy, but he managed to beat A ranked LSU team.

 

[Anon1726869725]

Eddie Hornbeck

…who started his career at non other than Notre Dame. Lol

 

[Indndawg]

Parenton was pretty bad
York....very well may have been the worst human under center in MSU history.
Fur Boy was Aaron Rodgers compared to these 2 abortions

 

[OopsICroomedmypants]

Mike Davis would get my vote from that group.........I played against him in HS and couldn't believe a SEC team signed him.......Those were just some ****** teams we had under Rocky......Program was in shambles...........

Agreed and looking at the QB’s from the 70’s it may have been worse. That was my Dad’s generation of Bulldogs when he was in college. He loved when Jackie Sherril came in. It was the first good team he ever saw wear a bulldog uniform.

 

[PBRME]

If Lee was six foot one we beat LSU. And not giving it to Boobie on the goal line. I still have nightmares.

Not challenging if AD scored is what haunts me. He was in.

 

[PBRME]

Rutland was my answer too. That dude was absolutely terrible. If I’m not mistaken, he also started the Tulane game the next week.where we lost to a 4-8 C-USA team that was still displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

Thanks for the check game

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Not challenging if AD scored is what haunts me. He was in.

The whole end of that game is a summary of Mullen. Oh what could’ve been.

 

[Wesson Bulldog]

You young ones have got it all wrong. Pizinski never started for us. Parenton was serviceable as Bond's back-up. Lundy was a split end starting at QB. Shell would've been a Heisman candidate on a contender.
The worst was Mike Davis. Our intramural team picked him off 4 times in one game the year after he left the program.

 

[Villagedawg]

Mike Davis would get my vote from that group.........I played against him in HS and couldn't believe a SEC team signed him.......Those were just some ****** teams we had under Rocky......Program was in shambles...........

Where did you play high school if you don't mind saying?

 

[Boosh]

His name is Michael Henig.

I dont think he was the worst QB to play, but he definitely had the worst game as a QB.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I’m here to see how people rank them. By QBR, the worst performance ever by a starter belongs to…Taylor…0.4 against Oklahoma. <something witty about statistics and lies>

 

[FlotownDawg]

Rutland was my answer too. That dude was absolutely terrible. If I’m not mistaken, he also started the Tulane game the next week.where we lost to a 4-8 C-USA team that was still displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

Yes, he started that game. I was there. His stats for that game were 2-6 for 6 yards and -13 rushing yards. We were down 32-7 in the fourth quarter before Omarr, who Croom put in at quarterback, led us to a couple late touchdowns and we lost 32-29. That might have been the rock bottom of the Croom era.

 

[aspendawg]

Bar none. Michael Henig. Purely for the fact he wore a platinum grille and his fur coat around campus. Douche Canoe.

 

[MSUDC11-2.0]

Yes, he started that game. I was there. His stats for that game were 2-6 for 6 yards and -13 rushing yards. We were down 32-7 in the fourth quarter before Omarr, who Croom put in at quarterback, led us to a couple late touchdowns and we lost 32-29. That might have been the rock bottom of the Croom era.

The strange thing about that team is they ended up being pretty competitive, or more competitive than you would’ve thought. 3-9 is 3-9 but I think we lost like 4 games by 3 points and won in Tuscaloosa.

 

[knock him out john]

Polish Rifle may have started the bama game in 1996.
I was in a bar in Keystone CO watching the game occasionally but I was too busy chasing a snow bunny to really give a RAT’s ***

don't think he played. Todd Jordan ran the offense out of the shotgun.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

don't think he played. Todd Jordan ran the offense out of the shotgun.

Todd Jordan - high school all american QB - we turned him into a punter...

 

[knock him out john]

It's Tim Parenton. He was not the worst QB to ever step on the field, by far. Pretty good baseball player for Polkie too in the early 80's.

very serviceable quarterback and ran the wishbone well.

 

[dawgman42]

Tray Rutland is the right (wrong) answer. As bad as Riddell, Henig, Carroll, and others were, that guy was an on-field embarrassment.

 

[knock him out john]

Hal Chealander from California JC.

really? Was he that bad? Thought he was decent, but before my time.

 

[DawgInThe256]

As others have said, Tony Shell doesn't belong in this discussion. I think his first start was against a ranked Georgia team and he threw 4 touchdowns. We thought he was the answer.

If I recall correctly, Parenton started the USM game in Jackson where both teams were ranked and USM won something like 10-7. That was also the game where Bond was benched, which led to much speculation and rumors that I don't want to get into.

 

[knock him out john]

As others have said, Tony Shell doesn't belong in this discussion. I think his first start was against a ranked Georgia team and he threw 4 touchdowns. We thought he was the answer.

If I recall correctly, Parenton started the USM game in Jackson where both teams were ranked and USM won something like 10-7. That was also the game where Bond was benched, which led to much speculation and rumors that I don't want to get into.

I was there and the defenses dominated. John could have played but Emory didn't put him in and it cost us the game.

 

[theoriginalSALTYdog]

Interesting. I saw Rodney Hudson is the lowest ranked QB in school history. It seems like I remember him getting into some legal trouble at some point so I do some digging - I found this article from the Seattle Times about that Alabama game someone was talking about...https://archive.seattletimes.com/ar...an-to-start-at-qb-against-12th-ranked-alabama


ETA this dynamite quote from Bruce Arians - "He can't call but five plays," offensive coordinator Bruce Arians told the Clarion (Miss.) Ledger earlier this week. "We might try to get to double figures, but I doubt it."

Hudson was an enigma. VERY highly rated QB in the early 90's out of LaGrange, GA and that was/is a powerhouse program. Matter o' fact, some had him rated as 5 stars. Played in 3 games in '92 and was 1/5 for -6 yards with one int. Transferred out the following year to UAB.

 

[ll Martain ll]

I don't know about the worst, but Jameon Lewis was 4/4 for 108 and 4 TDs for his QB career. Maybe he's available for a 5th year.

 

[theoriginalSALTYdog]

very serviceable quarterback and ran the wishbone well.

Agreed. Tim should not be in this conversation.

 

[maroonmania]

Tony is still in the top 10 in all time passing yards and he only started for 2 years.

Tony Shell was actually one of the better passing QBs I've ever seen play for MSU. Doesn't belong anywhere near this list.

 

[dawgpoundrock]

I remember Henig throwing 5 or 6 interceptions in a single HALF of football versus LSU.

I remember this game. He threw 3 picks to the same guy.

 

[JacksonCPAdawg]

i mean...billy puckett has to be on the short list

 

[dogmatic001]

Polish Rifle may have started the bama game in 1996.
I was in a bar in Keystone CO watching the game occasionally but I was too busy chasing a snow bunny to really give a RAT’s ***

No, the '96 Alabama game wasn't one with a squirrelly, unexpected backup QB. At least, not Polish Rifle-grade unexpected. Pretty sure that was a Derrick Taite team.

My dad and I were present for the 96 game, which was a very surprising win.

 

[Crossroaddawg]

i mean...billy puckett has to be on the short list

Recency Bias*

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I dont think he was the worst QB to play, but he definitely had the worst game as a QB.

Yep. And the reason he actually completed some passes in other games is because Croom kept playing him (when he wasn't getting hurt).

Henig just slap didn't have D1 talent. He was too small, to the point where we were straight lying on the roster. He was every bit of 5-10, 180 his last year on campus.

If you didn't see the Croom Error, you can't understand just how bad QB play was. From mishandling Connor, to Henig, to Rutland, Riddell even Carroll and Lee. And it wasn't their fault because they were better at FIU and under Mullen. Croom was THAT bad. Everyone got worse the longer they played under him.

Connor had flashes of success when they let him run around. And Carroll was OK his freshman year before Croom coached him too much.

Billy Puckett would run circles around what we were doing back then, especially if allowed to play more and grow up. Tony Shell? Good Lord people, he was a decent SEC QB.

 

[johnson86-1]

The right answer. I’d also mention Mike Wright, Damien Williams, Kyle York, Wesley Carroll, and Tommy Stevens.

Too many names….

Wesley carrol? He didn’t have the physical tools to be a good qb in the SEC but he sadly is still nowhere near our worst. Had a solid career at FAI after leaving state.

 

[johnson86-1]

i mean...billy puckett has to be on the short list

Billy Pucket is a RS Freshman. He shouldn't be getting playing time for an SEC team right now, but I'm not sure I'd put him in the worst discussion based on his current stats as a RS Freshman.

 

[johnson86-1]

If you didn't see the Croom Error, you can't understand just how bad QB play was.

.......

Billy Puckett would run circles around what we were doing back then, especially if allowed to play more and grow up.

If you see the stat line below for somebody that has played in two games as a RS freshman, and things that belongs in the discussion for worst MSU QB, you have had a relatively blessed life as an MSU fan. As bad as SloMo and everything since Leach's death has been, you still haven't experienced the same type of misery we had during croom and pre Jackie.

CMP	ATT	CMP%	YDS	AVG	TD	INT	LNG	SACK	RTG
41	64	64.1	368	5.8	1	2	42	5	111.8