'26 Senior World Championships (10/24-11/1) thread

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[zzs006]

Yazdani vs Yoshida 2nd round

I really like Blazes draw. 2 matches he should win to start and then Iran which I think is a winnable match as well

Levi should make the finals or wrestle for a medal. His quarter against Khaniev is the big one. Whoever wins should make the final. Nokhodi on the other side

Bassett with 2 winnable matches to start but then would have Russia and Sujeet back to back. Tough to see him placing unless he can gas the Russian. His first match against Biabani isn’t a cakewalk either. He lost 3-2 to Woods earlier this year.

I actually like Dakes draw. 86kg is so deep that every path is tough. I think he wins his first 2 and then gets the winner of Ghasempour vs Ramazanov. Brutal first round draw for those 2. Winner of Dakes quarter likely sees Kadiev. I am interested in seeing Kadiev vs Okazawa in the 1st round. Okazawa was the guy that was beating Sinclair badly at U20’s until he gassed and Sinclair came back to win 7-6

 

[Coastal2]

Nah. Blame the wrestlers. They don't compete.

I prefer it the way it is. You have to earn it from previous year's finish, or current year results. There has to be SOME incentive to get these guys to compete more.

A lot of these guys are competing in non-ranking series events and leagues. A wrestler can get paid to wrestle in an RAF event for example or pay out of pocket to travel to some far flung country for an official tournament that may or may not have any legitimate competition. Same with Iran's league.

Snyder got paid for Sadulaev and Taz. Is wrestling them in Mongolia any more legitimate?

Dake's bracket should show the "way it is" is abject stupidity. 2 of the 4 best wrestlers at the weight automatically cannot medal.

 

[Fatwoodchuck]

A lot of these guys are competing in non-ranking series events and leagues. A wrestler can get paid to wrestle in an RAF event for example or pay out of pocket to travel to some far flung country for an official tournament that may or may not have any legitimate competition. Same with Iran's league.

Snyder got paid for Sadulaev and Taz. Is wrestling them in Mongolia any more legitimate?

Dake's bracket should show the "way it is" is abject stupidity. 2 of the 4 best wrestlers at the weight automatically cannot medal.

Different leagues different rules. Also not all tournaments are made equal. You really think Saduliev actually put as much time and commitment into the RAF match as he would a ranking tournament or worlds?

 

[Corby2]

Nah. Blame the wrestlers. They don't compete.

I prefer it the way it is. You have to earn it from previous year's finish, or current year results. There has to be SOME incentive to get these guys to compete more.

Some people don't understand before this system it was a blind draw . This is way better than what we had . Now the best know what needs to be done to earn seeds if they choose

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[El_Jefe]

Different leagues different rules. Also not all tournaments are made equal. You really think Saduliev actually put as much time and commitment into the RAF match as he would a ranking tournament or worlds?

I don't really care what differential preparation Sadulaev puts into varying events.

But to turn this the other way: Snyder gets World/Olympic seeding points for winning the continental championship over a bunch of jabronis UWW found at a Waffle House parking lot that morning. But none for beating Sadulaev at RAF.

 

[El_Jefe]

Some people don't understand before this system it was a blind draw . This is way better than what we had . Now the best know what needs to be done to earn seeds if they choose

I think we all remember the dark days of 100% blind draws and the ball grab. This is clearly better.

That doesn't mean we should accept that this system can't be improved. UWW has progressed from crapping its diaper to crawling, but is not yet walking or running.

 

[Corby2]

I think we all remember the dark days of 100% blind draws and the ball grab. This is clearly better.

That doesn't mean we should accept that this system can't be improved. UWW has progressed from crapping its diaper to crawling, but is not yet walking or running.

You can't force guys to wrestle but this system gives them an incentive to participate by earning points for seeding

 

[El_Jefe]

You can't force guys to wrestle but this system gives them an incentive to participate by earning points for seeding

Also a disincentive later in the year once you have a top 4 spot locked up or can't reach the top 4.

 

[Coastal2]

I think we all remember the dark days of 100% blind draws and the ball grab. This is clearly better.

That doesn't mean we should accept that this system can't be improved. UWW has progressed from crapping its diaper to crawling, but is not yet walking or running.

That's what people don't understand. It's better so that's that.

One of the ranking series events was in Ulaan Bator, Mongolia. That's two days of flights from State College just to get there.

The three others this year were in Hungary, Croatia and Albania. (want to take a wild guess were UWW's current President is from)

The UWW makes insane demands like a 5K seat arena when they're lucky to get 1K in attendance, but those host sites are willing to grease the skids with VIP treatment for the UWW delegation so it's always going to be this way.

There are so many better ways to go about this, hell ELO sucks and would still be an improvement.

 

[randyl]

W-H-A-T !!!
I thought ELO was great.

 

[TwoJoints]

W-H-A-T !!!
I thought ELO was great.

Yeah, apparently @Coastal2 is no “Mr. BlueSky”

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Kingslayer]

W-H-A-T !!!
I thought ELO was great.

ELO was one of the best, I really wished I had the chance to see them live. Definitely one of life’s disappointments

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Roar More]

Agree it was bad but she's no Baylor Fernandes this isn't her reputation

It is her reputation now.

 

[Coastal2]

I don't really care what differential preparation Sadulaev puts into varying events.

But to turn this the other way: Snyder gets World/Olympic seeding points for winning the continental championship over a bunch of jabronis UWW found at a Waffle House parking lot that morning. But none for beating Sadulaev at RAF.

People in a Waffle House parking lot are a helluva lot tougher than most competitors at Pan Ams.

 

[vhsalum]

People in a Waffle House parking lot are a helluva lot tougher than most competitors at Pan Ams.

You mean the employees

 

[El_Jefe]

People in a Waffle House parking lot are a helluva lot tougher than most competitors at Pan Ams.

Well, duh, they're sobered up and hung over by the first whistle.

 

[Shifty15]

ELO was one of the best, I really wished I had the chance to see them live. Definitely one of life’s disappointments

Loved their music. They had some phenomenal songs.

 

[Shifty15]

Well, duh, they're sobered up and hung over by the first whistle.

This must be the PD III thread?