In a down year for the B1G only Maryland is worse than PSU
I've now seen every team in the B1G play.
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MD has paid off their ACC departure and are up to full share pay in the B1G. With the right coach they might not be great , but certainly more of a PIA on the recruiting trail and the occasional Saturday .
I don't know what you're getting at but from what I've seen, this fan is facing reality
I mean, I know this isn’t a very good team right now, but I’m almost positive that they would be betting favors against at minimum, Rutgers, Michigan State and Purdue.
Seems like the overall level of play has declined. The coaching and roster turnover has led to flawed, inconsistent teams this year instead of super teams. Tons of mediocre teams that can be had on any given Saturday.
Lack of depth, which inevitably rears it's ugly head in a collision sport.
Very true, and after watching Indiana and Michigan today, some of the teams at the top aren’t that good either. I don’t think Michigan is better than Penn State at all and they took Indiana to overtime.
Correct...most of these games are just about who makes a mistake at the wrong time. A turnover, blown coverage, poor coaching, etc. It's Ohio State then everyone else with Maryland Rutgers and debatably Michigan State at the bottom. Ohio State may also slide back without Sayin.
I agree. Teams look disorganized and quality of play is worse. So we're paying out the wazoo for an inferior product. $ and unrestricted transfers are ruining college football in so many ways.
There are not nearly enough good players to support the free flow from team to team in portal. In pros there are 32 teams with 70ish players including practice squad and they all cannot move every year. In college 120 teams with 105 players. With all the moving having and maintaining coherent team “chemistry” and coordination is going to be challenging. Few teams with lots of $$$$ going to get best players which will counter the disorganization and lack continuity. Everyone else going to be struggling. Until and unless CBA with rules on free agency it’s going to continue like this
Well looks like we are bottom dwellers too.
QB play in the BIG this year may be the worst of the Power 4 leagues. I am pressed to think of a single team that has better QB play this year versus last year in the BIG---maybe Iowa, Purdue and Minnesota fit that category, but it's hard to think of many teams. The rest have had the same level of play (at best) or have seen a regression. QB play hurt the SEC the last few years---they went to the checkbook and fixed it. Currently, the SEC play has been better as a result.
This is the worst of the three portal QBs for Cignetti. Hoover looks very average out there at best.
Grunk is better than any quarterback in the BIG… he was really good in their win last night against Clemson. Cool and calm.
Yes he is..He showed flashes of this last year, and then during the Bowl game against Clemson, he showed what he was going to become. Put cool and calm on top of great fundamentals (T Frank did a great job of showing us that part of his game) and you have a great QB. To me, losing him was the worst part of the coaching change, by far. And consider this: he was pummeled in his first 3-4 starts last year and didn't flinch a bit. Why did we let this guy walk? Huge mistake.
Wisconsin and Northwestern in addition to Minnesota and Purdue.
I'd say Iowa, USC and Rutgers are probably all better as well
Nico was better this year vs last year until he got injured.
But--yes--I agree--the SEC is better than the Big Ten this year largely due to QB play.
This just shows how deep the B1G is. It's a grind week in and week out. No place to hide in this conference. Anybody can beat anybody.
Have you?Have you watched Penn State this season?
We played close games with Wisconsin, USC and Michigan. We know Wisconsin and Michigan have legit defenses. One could argue we should have won at least 2 of them without our best offensive player.
The only game all year we weren't competitive in was Northwestern. Northwestern is 6-1 with a road loss by a score to a team currently in the top.
IMO today it's hard to define the term down year when discussing league success. I ask the question, due to NIL have these leagues started to even out in terms of being competitive.
Obviously in the case of our beloved Nittany Lion football team there is a dearth of talent. Please stand by as the program goes through the growing pains of what could be a long rebuild.
More drivel from the self-proclaimed great oracle. Grunk was 4th nationally in yards and 11th nationally and had 15 TD passes with only 2 picks before last night’s game where he led VaTech on a 4th quarter game winning drive by throwing a TD pass to another former Penn State player, Reynolds. Grunk said publicly that he is a loyal person and only left AFTER Becht committed (and he realized as we are now seeing that Campbell was going to play him irrespective of on field results). I look forward to your diatribe about how Grunk made a HUGE mistake transferring to VaTech because Franklin and O’Brien would “ruin” him.
More nonsense from the great oracle. Grunk was 4th nationally in passing yards and 11th nationally in completion percentage with 15 TD passes and 2 picks before last night’s game where he led the 4th quarter come back drive and threw the game winning TD to Reynolds. Please make sure to tell us in another post how Grunk made a HUGE mistake transferring to VaTech because Franklin and O’Brien will ruin him.
Means so much more when you repeat yourself. You are getting waaaaaaayy too twitchy.
Analyze the numbers. Watch him play. Consider the opposition.
Grunk was loyal...to James...ask the insiders
Howle is actually running an offense for a pocket passer. Would have been amazing if James ever did that here.
There’s just no excuse for a “long rebuild” anymore. Look at all the first year coaches who inherited as bad or worse situations than Campbell and are doing much better. Why does Campbell get the benefit of the doubt? Aside from we have no choice but to hope it gets better..
-Chesney/UCLA. undefeated Top 10. Wanted to come to PSU but Kraft was obsessed with flipping a Mormon from BYU.
-Stein/Kentucky. Top 10.
-Morris/OK St. worst power 4 team last year. Signature win over Oregon this year.
-Sumrall/UF. Top 20
-Franklin/VT. 6-2. 1 loss on a missed chip shot game winning FG
-Golesh/Aub. Winning record. Signature win ver Georgia This year.
-Scalley/Utah and Golding/Ole MIss. Both promoted in house and having success (Terry Smith approach)
Is Oregon a signature win?
You're overstating the success of most of these programs. And even mentioning Terry Smith is laughable
No new HC walked into as bad a situation as PS and turned them into an instant winner.
I gave you 8 new coaches that have run circles around Minor League Matt this year. If you want to quibble, fine.
Yes, Oregon is a signature win for a team that was 1-11 last year. Oregon is having a down year, but has still beaten Boise St and USC.
I didn’t say Terry Smith was the right move for us. Just mentioned that it would’ve been the equivalent move to what Utah and Ole Miss did.
Yes, Oregon is a signature win for a team that was 1-11 last year. Oregon is having a down year, but has still beaten Boise St and USC.
I didn’t say Terry Smith was the right move for us. Just mentioned that it would’ve been the equivalent move to what Utah and Ole Miss did.
Reynolds was pretty good as well.
Golding was the DC at Bama and Ole Miss
Morgan Scalley had been Utah's DC for a decade and was name the coach in waiting in 2024 to keep him at Utah
How are they the equivalent to Terry Smith?
"Minor League Matt" proves my point. And pretending Oregon is still a big win is laughable. They don't even think they're good.
I think it's conceivable that PSU could win out or lose out. Not likely either way, but there's little separation right now.
PSU used to shove MD, PU, RU, etc. around (and disembowel their QB's at times) but not now.
I could see a win against any of them and a loss against any of them (including MD and RU).
PSU used to shove MD, PU, RU, etc. around (and disembowel their QB's at times) but not now.
I could see a win against any of them and a loss against any of them (including MD and RU).
Is it deep or just very mid? I'm going very mid.
So, which one of these 8 examples is Campbell outperforming? This is diverse list of programs and coaches. Surely he’s outperforming someone.
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