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bbnkat02

Heisman
Nov 14, 2017
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It’s almost like changing a problematic coach who isn’t getting you anywhere is a good thing…
Which is what a BUNCH of us said. And yet there were even people on this board that said it would never happen. Some even dunked on Stein when he was hired.

Mediocrity doesn't have to be accepted. It can be changed. And sure....it doesn't always work out. But you keep freaking trying.
 

Get_over_it

Junior
Sep 23, 2026
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It’s almost like changing a problematic coach who isn’t getting you anywhere is a good thing…
It's almost like a lot of dingleberries on here forget that problematic coach, took over a 2 win team loaded with MAC talent and turned in 2 10 win seasons, ended the Florida streak and built the foundation that Stein is standing on. And did that without the portal and NIL.
 

RobEStacy

Senior
May 21, 2007
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Brook started it... Joker almost ruined it... And Stoops built us back to be atleast talked about positively again.. Nothing but respect for Stoops. But he had reached his potential, and it was time to part ways stien is taking over a drastically diffrent program that Brook, and Stoops took over... Im loving Stien, but give Stoops his flowers as well.
 

Snarks

All-American
Jan 31, 2005
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No it was time for Stoops to go, but too many people on here act like he didn't accomplish anything while he was here.
He had 2 good seasons out of 12 with a down SEC East and an extra gimme game. While Stoops had some good moments, he was vastly overpaid and overrated by many here. I think a lot of coaches could have done a better job and Stein is proving it.
 

Catastic5

All-Conference
Sep 12, 2026
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Which is what a BUNCH of us said. And yet there were even people on this board that said it would never happen. Some even dunked on Stein when he was hired.

Mediocrity doesn't have to be accepted. It can be changed. And sure....it doesn't always work out. But you keep freaking trying.
I want to go on a Stoops/Pope rant, but anyone watching this game should realize how significant of a culture change a coach can bring to a program YEAR 1. It doesn’t take longer than that in this current college sporting world. But let Stein’s success press that point I’m trying to make. It. Doesn’t. Take. Longer. Than. A. Year. Not for Stoops; not for Cal; not certainly for Pope. It’s now. Immediately.

We’re seeing it with Stein; we’re seeing it with Cignetti at Indiana; Chesney at UCLA, Dusty May at Michigan. You don’t learn success on the job. You either bring it or you don’t.
 

JASUN74

All-American
May 22, 2008
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No it was time for Stoops to go, but too many people on here act like he didn't accomplish anything while he was here.
All the respect and props to Stoops, but he got content and was going through the motions the last couple years. He had did what he wanted and was already halfway out the door. Great full for his time here for sure but like you said it was time to go. It’s all good. Stoops is always a Wildcat as far as I’m concerned.
 

bbnkat02

Heisman
Nov 14, 2017
48,760
72,954
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All the respect and props to Stoops, but he got content and was going through the motions the last couple years. He had did what he wanted and was already halfway out the door. Great full for his time here for sure but like you said it was time to go. It’s all good. Stoops is always a Wildcat as far as I’m concerned.
It was the "pony up" comment that doomed him. You can't claim to be blue collar and like the fans and then turn on the fan base like that. Just can't. I guarantee Stein doesn't have Bama, LSU, TAMU NIL money and yet we beat two of those dudes.

Stoops was playing 90s style FB in the NIL era. That was the problem.
 

Artlaibesghost

All-Conference
Nov 30, 2022
1,461
3,033
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What
It's almost like a lot of dingleberries on here forget that problematic coach, took over a 2 win team loaded with MAC talent and turned in 2 10 win seasons, ended the Florida streak and built the foundation that Stein is standing on. And did that without the portal and NIL.
WHAT Are you smoking dude. " Built the foundation" like not winning an SEC home game for nearly 3 years or perhaps the highest turnover and penalty in SEC the last 2 years or maybe having players going to the concession stand and getting hot dogs DURING THE GAME. In what universe can you see somebody from a Stein coached team doing that. He padded his record each year playing tomato cans. He SUCKED at the end of his career here and left the cupboard completely bare for Stein. I might also add he coached for 2 years with NIL in place and they were the worst of his career. Get real man!
 

Catastic5

All-Conference
Sep 12, 2026
427
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Those same guys are the same guys telling you to give Pope more time. Don't forget it, either.
Stein could lose out and end up 7-5 and I’d still say there is no excuse for Pope with the resources he has to not be among upper echelons of the SEC and make a deep run in the tournament. If Stein can win this many games with the 2nd lowest NIL budget, there’s no way Pope should not be a top 10 team with one of the highest NIL budgets in the country.

Stein will at the very least go 5-4 in the SEC this year. That’s already .556 in the SEC with one of the conference’s lowest budgets.

Pope is averaging 10-8 or .556 in the SEC the last two seasons with one of its highest budgets
 

BlueVelvetFog

Heisman
Apr 12, 2016
14,673
20,415
78
Stein could lose out and end up 7-5 and I’d still say there is no excuse for Pope with the resources he has to not be among upper echelons of the SEC and make a deep run in the tournament. If Stein can win this many games with the 2nd lowest NIL budget, there’s no way Pope should not be a top 10 team with one of the highest NIL budgets in the country.

Stein will at the very least go 5-4 in the SEC this year. That’s already .556 in the SEC with one of the conference’s lowest budgets.

Pope is averaging 10-8 or .556 in the SEC the last two seasons with one of its highest budgets
It's about time that NIL budget gets corrected
 

seccats04

Heisman
Dec 6, 2004
14,770
24,310
113
That’s insane. Barney should have been canned for that alone. Instead he got a heck of a severance package.
I've been saying Barney has dirt on the admin, maybe the swim scandal or something. No other reason for Eli to bend over backwards for him as much as he has considering Mitch should've been fired a long time ago (swim scandal, Joker, Pope, BCG, Stoops dumb contract, Cal dumb contract).
 

Bluetick2100

All-Conference
Apr 15, 2007
5,768
3,938
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Remember all the crap talk and old fuddy duddies that said we should just accept being the doormat of the SEC?
And how a lot of us said, "Just takes the right coach?"

Yeah, Pepperidge Farms remembers.

UK Football is currently GOOD.
Been reading FB post here for many a year. NEVER EVER have I read we should except being the doormat of the SEC.
 

Dward13

All-Conference
Feb 5, 2008
10,376
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Which is what a BUNCH of us said. And yet there were even people on this board that said it would never happen. Some even dunked on Stein when he was hired.

Mediocrity doesn't have to be accepted. It can be changed. And sure....it doesn't always work out. But you keep freaking trying.

I think UK fans are among the top 5 most invested fanbases in college sports. There’s no reason the football or basketball programs should be down for as long as they have been.
 
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Bluetick2100

All-Conference
Apr 15, 2007
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What
WHAT Are you smoking dude. " Built the foundation" like not winning an SEC home game for nearly 3 years or perhaps the highest turnover and penalty in SEC the last 2 years or maybe having players going to the concession stand and getting hot dogs DURING THE GAME. In what universe can you see somebody from a Stein coached team doing that. He padded his record each year playing tomato cans. He SUCKED at the end of his career here and left the cupboard completely bare for Stein. I might also add he coached for 2 years with NIL in place and they were the worst of his career. Get real man!
Rodriguez says hello
 

Dward13

All-Conference
Feb 5, 2008
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Been reading FB post here for many a year. NEVER EVER have I read we should except being the doormat of the SEC.

I’ve seen multiple posters over the years contend that what’s happening at IU or even what happened when Missouri won the SEC east and went to the SEC title game in back to back seasons, can’t happen at UK.

Not the majority mind you. But multiple posters have made those claims.
 

vhcat1970

All-Conference
Jul 2, 2025
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He had 2 good seasons out of 12 with a down SEC East and an extra gimme game. While Stoops had some good moments, he was vastly overpaid and overrated by many here. I think a lot of coaches could have done a better job and Stein is proving it.
No need to denigrate Stoops for Mitch overpaying him.
 

vhcat1970

All-Conference
Jul 2, 2025
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I want to go on a Stoops/Pope rant, but anyone watching this game should realize how significant of a culture change a coach can bring to a program YEAR 1. It doesn’t take longer than that in this current college sporting world. But let Stein’s success press that point I’m trying to make. It. Doesn’t. Take. Longer. Than. A. Year. Not for Stoops; not for Cal; not certainly for Pope. It’s now. Immediately.

We’re seeing it with Stein; we’re seeing it with Cignetti at Indiana; Chesney at UCLA, Dusty May at Michigan. You don’t learn success on the job. You either bring it or you don’t.
The portal and NIL makes that infinitely more possible today than before five years ago.
 
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vhcat1970

All-Conference
Jul 2, 2025
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The lack of respect for UK football by supposed fans shows up in the repeated and frequent posts about Pope and hoops in football threads. Sickening. Leave football alone and to itself without the pollution. But I know won’t be able to help themselves.
 

SenseMaker_Cats

All-American
Jul 3, 2025
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Honest question. What is it that bothers you that a handful of people want more time for Pope (or for Stoops back then)? I wanted Stoops gone and I’m ready for Pope to move on

it doesn’t even register to me if there’s a few guys that want him to stay. What is it you think is going to happen? The vast majority of the fanbase and this board will be ready to move on. A majority will be ready to move on with just “good” results.
 
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