Real American Freestyle

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[vhsalum]

Doesn’t the ban also impact who is allowed to train with him?

apparently not. He's been training in the PSU room plenty these past few months.

 

[Corby2]

apparently not. He's been training in the PSU room plenty these past few months.

He can't practice at any club that's affiliated with UsaW. But UsaW would need to enforce the rule which won't happen

 

[vhsalum]

He can't practice at any club that's affiliated with UsaW. But UsaW would need to enforce the rule which won't happen

But he can practice as an alumni with the college team. So that's probably where he's "practicing."

 

[Corby2]

But he can practice as an alumni with the college team. So that's probably where he's "practicing."

I don't believe that's legal anymore. Bylaw 17 is where practice hours and stuff are listed I think that's where it would be

 

[SkiSkiSki]

PD-III and Vegas -- I doubt that ends well on some level. But wrestling's tardigrade will survive, I am sure.

 

[Corby2]

Fight at the press conference

 

[ccdiver]

Not exactly Tyson-Lennox Lewis, but a fun promo moment anyway.

 

[manatree]

PD-III and Vegas -- I doubt that ends well on some level. But, wrestling's tardigrade will survive, I am sure.

I'm always expecting him to shotgun a Natty-Bo before a match.

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

I was looking forward to watching Greg wrestle. Maybe I am missing some matches, but has Greg even had a freestyle match post-college?

 

[5q]

Doesn’t the ban also impact who is allowed to train with him?

i dont see how they can ban you from non world level type training/tournaments.
its like if the US soccer leauge banned you, and thus couldn't compete in any leauge in Europe. makes no sense. especially since RAF is private sector

 

[El_Jefe]

i dont see how they can ban you from non world level type training/tournaments.
its like if the US soccer leauge banned you, and thus couldn't compete in any leauge in Europe. makes no sense. especially since RAF is private sector

What you're describing is a completely toothless punishment. A loophole so wide that battleships can pass thru it sideways.

UWW provides reciprocity across all nations. Athletes don't get to (metaphorically) commit a crime here and then board a plane to a non-extradition country. Do the crime, do the time.

If that sounds harsh, Russia got busted for doping at the 2016 Paralympic Games. So it's warranted.

 

[SkiSkiSki]

i dont see how they can ban you from non world level type training/tournaments.
its like if the US soccer leauge banned you, and thus couldn't compete in any leauge in Europe. makes no sense. especially since RAF is private sector

From my AI friend:

United World Wrestling (UWW) sanctions strictly prevent a sanctioned wrestler from participating in Real American Freestyle (RAF) events.

Why UWW Sanctions Apply to RAF Events​

While RAF operates as an independent professional wrestling league, it remains legally bound to enforce global sports governance and anti-doping protocols:

• WADA & Anti-Doping Compliance: RAF has implemented a strict anti-doping policy in partnership with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA). Under the WADA Code, a period of ineligibility (suspension) imposed by an Olympic international federation like UWW must be mutually recognized and enforced by all other sporting organizations and professional leagues that adhere to WADA standards.
• Participation Restrictions: During a UWW-imposed suspension or provisional suspension, an athlete is barred from participating in any capacity in competitions or elite-level sporting activities. This includes competitions organized by any professional league or international/national-level event organization.
• Partnership with USA Wrestling: RAF has a formal partnership with USA Wrestling (the national governing body for wrestling in the United States), which directly utilizes UWW’s rule frameworks and enforces its eligibility criteria.

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Consequences of Violations​

If a wrestler attempts to compete in an RAF event while under an active UWW/WADA sanction, it constitutes a violation of both RAF policies and international anti-doping agreements. This can result in:

1. Immediate disqualification from the event.
2. Forfeiture of any show or win compensation and performance bonuses.
3. Additional domestic and international suspensions that could lead to a lifetime ban from both freestyle and professional wrestling competitions.

 

[TwoJoints]

I was looking forward to watching Greg wrestle. Maybe I am missing some matches, but has Greg even had a freestyle match post-college?

Greg wrestled at 2024 Olympic Team Trials. If I recall correctly he lost a close match to Dom.

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

Greg wrestled at 2024 Olympic Team Trials. If I recall correctly he lost a close match to Dom.

Thanks, but I was specifically referencing his post-college career.

 

[Mat Burn]

I think Mikey improved since leaving the Iowa room.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[El_Jefe]

Arujau has fallen off a cliff in the last couple years. Really needs a change in the worst way.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

 

[zzs006]

I also want to point out Jayden James beat Caliendo 8-3 this summer

 

[Coastal2]

I also want to point out Jayden James beat Caliendo 8-3 this summer

I swore off RAF but watched this trying to stay awake. Couldn't make it the whole way through. Whoever the lady is announcing needs to go. What a waste of oxygen...

 

[Psalm 1 guy]

That settles it. Once a wrestler leaves Iowa they improve rapidly

 

[Tgar]

Ummmm, is there any testing for steroids in this sport?

 

[BaccaFarmer]

Ray would have destroyed Porter. Ray is a fla state wrestling champ, he was also a runner up the year before.... I think he lost only one match his final two seasons and only handful in his HS career. Just bc Ray wasnt dumb enough to get off of the bus and violate his probation... dont mean that he wouldnt have destroyed Porter. FB... Dan Krider used to give Porter the business on the field in in the locker room... what do you think Ray would have done!

I was at a meeting with Ray earlier this year. He still looks quite robust, but, he’s not the hulk that he once was (who among us is). As you may know Ray got into cycling some years ago after an injury. He’s quite serious about it having founded L52 Cycling. He may have a long list of mistakes he’s made along the way, but, I can assure you that he no dummy. He is currently involved as an investor in the formation of a U.S. based cycling league. Along the way, Ray is doing far more than his fair share to contribute to healthy lives in his community. He’s not fighting Porter.

 

[Tom McAndrew]