Oops, thought the second Cary-Grove game was less competitive. The fact remains that they basically got wrecked by Fenwick last year.
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It also matters who they play in the regular season. With the conference they play, they get five automatic wins every year.You want big picture, ESL has the most wins in state history.
IHSA also breaks down teams based on how far they've gone in the playoffs.
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They haven't played in the same conference for 100 years.
Ahhhhh , it must be playoff time! Tis the season to start slinging arrows at the Flyers 
These young men need a Illinois football history lesson ASAPAhhhhh , it must be playoff time! Tis the season to start slinging arrows at the Flyers
Yes you do. Stop with the passive aggressive posts. I forgot what the last post was about in the previous TOUTT, but it was similar. Now you dont know if esl is an elite hs program? Hard to take someone serious who would say that out loud.
Just FYI, loyola is an 8a school. Can you use an example of a school playing up 1 or 2 classes who would be able to be as successful as esl? That would be an apt comparison.
Loyola has many finals losses (I remember a year on this board when some nutjob was arguing that Holecek had a lousy playoff record!) Were they in 6A (with ESL) they might have 1 or 2 titles less than they have now. For most of the last 15 years LA and MC have been peers, but with the athletes MC is currently putting on the field, they are moving into ESL territory (national schedule, regional all-stars). LA is playing the same game with the same athletes it always has in the Holecek era. I’m unsure they will attempt to keep up.
Someone do a wellness check on him. He doesn't have a CCL team at #1 so he may have a gun to his head.
Why exactly are you arguing that ESL should be ranked higher in the Week #10 TOUTT thread, when the rankings look like this?
1. ESL (8-1) - Should be docked some points for doing my Huskies like that. However, overall the best combination of high end wins, no bad losses, roster talent, and pedigree. Could face a couple challenges in a top heavy 7A. Hopefully a game against Rice comes to fruition.
2. LWE (9-0) - I didn't even check to see the score of this game until literally right now as I'm typing, that's how confident I am in a LWE W, now I see that they beat LWW 37-14. Only tests were in week 1 & 2. We'll have to see how the path in 8A wind up. One thing we know is they can't see LA until the championship.
3. Rice (7-2) - workman like, the Crusaders dropped a couple close games that could have gone either way, otherwise they've been a steamroller. The state awaits the game against EESL.
4. MC (7-2) - Caravan proves itself with a dominating win over an undefeated Loyola. The 8A class waits with baited breath for the brackets to be released. Maybe an early rematch with The Griffins is in the cards?
What do you want them ranked? One++?
PS. I actually know the answer. I'm just funning with you.
We get to argue who is #1 for the next 43 (52-9) weeks. Pace yourselves.
Carry on.
1. ESL (8-1) - Should be docked some points for doing my Huskies like that. However, overall the best combination of high end wins, no bad losses, roster talent, and pedigree. Could face a couple challenges in a top heavy 7A. Hopefully a game against Rice comes to fruition.
2. LWE (9-0) - I didn't even check to see the score of this game until literally right now as I'm typing, that's how confident I am in a LWE W, now I see that they beat LWW 37-14. Only tests were in week 1 & 2. We'll have to see how the path in 8A wind up. One thing we know is they can't see LA until the championship.
3. Rice (7-2) - workman like, the Crusaders dropped a couple close games that could have gone either way, otherwise they've been a steamroller. The state awaits the game against EESL.
4. MC (7-2) - Caravan proves itself with a dominating win over an undefeated Loyola. The 8A class waits with baited breath for the brackets to be released. Maybe an early rematch with The Griffins is in the cards?
What do you want them ranked? One++?
PS. I actually know the answer. I'm just funning with you.
We get to argue who is #1 for the next 43 (52-9) weeks. Pace yourselves.
Carry on.
Considering the one time they played LA didn’t score an offensive touchdown, using your logic ESL would be 6 time state champs if they had to play LA in the 6A championship. We all know LA is a great program and team. They won 8a that same year.
I will also add BR has won 1 championship during that time but to you they are elite.
Its pretty clear you don’t like ESL. Your list is ALL THE WAY BIAS proven by your comments defending your list.
All private schools petition up to play 1 or 2 classes above their ihsa enrollments?
No they don't. The multiplier is part of the classification system.
Folks,
I'm fairly new to posting on this board, and I didn't anticipate the vitriol I would receive for implying that East St. Louis football is anything less than the reincarnation of the '85 Bears. I have them ranked 3rd out of roughly 500 schools in Illinois that play 11-man football. Does it sound like I don't believe they're a good team? They're a great program, and their accomplishments are made all the more impressive by the adversity many of their players overcome to excel at football. My objective in life is never to cause offense, and if I have done so, I apologize. That being said, this board is all about opinions on football, and every day, I read opinions with which I disagree, but I never get nearly this worked-up about it.
I'm fairly new to posting on this board, and I didn't anticipate the vitriol I would receive for implying that East St. Louis football is anything less than the reincarnation of the '85 Bears. I have them ranked 3rd out of roughly 500 schools in Illinois that play 11-man football. Does it sound like I don't believe they're a good team? They're a great program, and their accomplishments are made all the more impressive by the adversity many of their players overcome to excel at football. My objective in life is never to cause offense, and if I have done so, I apologize. That being said, this board is all about opinions on football, and every day, I read opinions with which I disagree, but I never get nearly this worked-up about it.
Its a message board. We argue. No one even called you a name yet
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Maybe I'm just soft.Its a message board. We argue. No one even called you a name yet
Differing opinions are definitely encouraged, but when you question how elite the winningest program in state history is you're gonna get some pushback.
I think its fair game. One of those ESL fellas a couple weeks ago said The Beloved hadn't had a quality win in years when we beat Warren last year, meanwhile ESL was playing Simeon in the quarter finals and St Laurence in the semis. Theres definitely levels here.
That not what I said....its definitely levels to this **** lol. FYI Warren has not won **** they no different than simeon or Larry
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Its cool... you simply don't know illinois football. Do a little research before you speak on things. Google is great lol
Warren would have clocked both Simeon and Larry. Its easy to win when Simeon is the toughest team you play before the championship.
East St. Louis is a non boundary school...
MC had its chances but couldn’t overcome the fumble and pick in the 4th. Gotta give East St. Louis credit for making them pay and getting the W. I’m just glad Loyola didn’t get screwed this year and has a shot at making it to the championship. After seeing both teams up close, I think BR matches up pretty well with ESL. MC will expose LWE very soon...
And teams that rank in the top 10 nationally on a consistent basis.
Including the year Flyer blanked them 35-0? They won 8A then.
All these factors are why its okay discussing who's where. Until there's only one class thats all we got.
That’s right. And MC has a 30 mile radius. And LWE doesn’t recruit. Yep.
Makes sense, I guess that’s why MC won at ISU and at home. So it does matter and it isn’t about discipline. Got it. lol
You guys are already in Mid-Off-Season form with your "who's best?" argument.
- the best Illinois team will come out of 2A again
- the 2nd best IL team will come out of 4A again
- the 3rd best team will probably come out of 8A (maybe 7A)
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