We now support Russia… How far we’ve fallen

[dpic73]

Branson can go to hell with his lies.

Branson speaks for the majority of people in the Western world who are dumbfounded that an American president has chosen the blood-soaked dictator over our ally. We are the bad guy now.

 

[dpic73]

This should be impeachable - we know it would be for any other president.

 

[baltimorened]

Because people had experienced 4 years of Trump and saw him mangling COVID in real time? No one (to my knowledge) has claimed that Russia hacked into the polls and changed the votes. All of those people really did vote for Trump. The truth is that Russia did deliberately manipulate our social and traditional media landscapes in a way that was favorable to Trump to try and get Trump elected AND that members of the Trump campaign attempted to coordinate with Russia to do that.

yea I get all that. But didn't they do the same thing in 2020?

 

[baltimorened]

AI-fabricated video clips of well-known actors and musicians — including Robert De Niro, Julia Roberts and Cher — attacking Democrats began appearing on X in early September, some urging people to join a campaign dubbed #AllDemocratsAreCriminals. Scores of other clips have made false allegations of corruption and improprieties by Democratic candidates.

so all the corruption in government is done by republicans.....

 

[yoshi121374]

so all the corruption in government is done by republicans.....

Not at all. The really blatant stuff sure seems to be lately. What Trump and his family are doing is unprecedented levels of corruption and grift.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Branson can go to hell with his lies.

Is the pay that good dude?

 

[Dadar]

so all the corruption in government is done by republicans.....

What % would you put on Trumplican corruption to Dems, just off the cuff? I will go with 90% Trumplicans corruption to 10 %. dems Trump and family personally would be infinite

 

[FLaw47]

yea I get all that. But didn't they do the same thing in 2020?

Is your premise that Russia either has the ability to have America decide whatever they want or they don't have any ability to influence it at all? Because that's preposterously stupid even for somebody who's trying to be dense. Tell me I'm misunderstanding, please.

 

[baltimorened]

What % would you put on Trumplican corruption to Dems, just off the cuff? I will go with 90% Trumplicans corruption to 10 %. dems Trump and family personally would be infinite

well, here's my problem....how much corruption is there in order to make that determination. If an elected official takes some financial action that is legal, is that corruption. Two examples, trump and Pelosi. We can compain about pelosi's trading, but it's legal - is she corrupt? Trump has made $2.2 billion since being in office (not my number, but as reported). Some comes from his hotels/golf courses, other from his crypto coin....both are legal - is that corruption?

I don't know.....you obviously have more info than I do in order to make your ratio determination.

 

[Dadar]

well, here's my problem....how much corruption is there in order to make that determination. If an elected official takes some financial action that is legal, is that corruption. Two examples, trump and Pelosi. We can compain about pelosi's trading, but it's legal - is she corrupt? Trump has made $2.2 billion since being in office (not my number, but as reported). Some comes from his hotels/golf courses, other from his crypto coin....both are legal - is that corruption?

I don't know.....you obviously have more info than I do in order to make your ratio determination.

 

[Dadar]

the United States has not transferred Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine. While Trump has repeatedly claimed that the Biden administration gave Ukraine "massive amounts" of Tomahawks and Patriots without payment, fact-checkers and defense officials confirm that zero Tomahawk missiles were ever supplied to Kyiv

• Tomahawks: The U.S. has not given a single Tomahawk to Ukraine, despite repeated requests from President Volodymyr Zelensky. In October 2025, the Pentagon reportedly cleared the transfer, but Trump ultimately ruled out providing them in November 2025, citing stockpile concerns and escalation risks.
• Patriots: Ukraine has received Patriot air defense systems and interceptors from the U.S., but these were transferred through NATO allies or direct sales, not "given for free" as Trump alleged. In July 2026, Trump also reversed his promise to license Ukrainian production of Patriots, contradicting his earlier public commitment to Zelensky.
• Fact-Check: The claim that Biden gave $350 billion in aid without payment is false; the U.S. provided aid through a mix of grants, loans, and sales. Additionally, the assertion that Ukraine "sold" U.S. weapons on the open market is unsupported by any evidence.

 

[Billanole.]

AI-fabricated video clips of well-known actors and musicians — including Robert De Niro, Julia Roberts and Cher — attacking Democrats began appearing on X in early September, some urging people to join a campaign dubbed #AllDemocratsAreCriminals. Scores of other clips have made false allegations of corruption and improprieties by Democratic candidates.

Dayum.

 

[TigerGrowls]

This should be impeachable - we know it would be for any other president.

Who is the commander in chief dpic???

 

[dpic73]

Who is the commander in chief dpic???

An evil, despicable man who is destroying our standing in the world. A criminal, a fraud, a dementia patient with a full diaper. An utter embarrassment, that's who.

 

[TigerGrowls]

An evil, despicable man who is destroying our standing in the world. A criminal, a fraud, a dementia patient with a full diaper. An utter embarrassment, that's who.

Hes the man who can throttle starshield anytime he wants.

 

[dpic73]

Hes the man who can throttle starshield get Ukrainian citizens killed anytime he wants.

FIFY

This man is a dark cancer on the world and when he's through, we won't have any friends because our allies will no longer trust us and a sane administration would never befriend the only people he loves - the world's worst dictators.

And don't think you'll get a pass either, you will be forever known as his enabler and I promise you that won't be good for you.

 

[Moogy]

FIFY

This man is a dark cancer on the world and when he's through, we won't have any friends because our allies will no longer trust us and a sane administration would never befriend the only people he loves - the world's worst dictators.

And don't think you'll get a pass either, you will be forever known as his enabler and I promise you that won't be good for you.

@TigerGrowls isn't subject to US jurisdiction, otherwise, we'd put him on trial.

 

[dpic73]

Trump is a traitorous Russian asset and must be impeached.

 

[Dadar]

Trump is a traitorous Russian asset and must be impeached.

The trump and Russia connections run deep over many years going back to Russian Mafia in NY

Russian mob figures, including associates of Semion Mogilevich and Vyacheslav Ivankov, also operated high-stakes illegal gambling rings and money-laundering schemes out of Trump Tower in New York, directly below Trump’s penthouse.

 

[dpic73]

 

[baltimorened]

I think it let a lot of people down..weren't their sanction against other countries for buying Russian oil. This move is a head scrather

 

[Dadar]

Truth Social is an oxymoron

Public Denials: In a Time interview and multiple Truth Social posts, Trump stated the U.S. is "in great shape," claiming stockpiles are at their highest levels and that defense contractors are building plants "24/7" to replenish supplies at unprecedented rates.

 

[Dadar]

We have descended to living in Alice's Rabbit Hole

https://apnews.com/article/nato-trump-iran-ukraine-turkey-d393e8ef6103e32c984c4337a82930b1

Zelenskyy says Trump has decided to grant Ukraine Patriot licence

Kyiv has been pushing for a licence to produce Patriot interceptors domestically, arguing that they are crucial to its ability to defend against Russian ballistic missile attacks.

www.euronews.com

Trump now 'not sure' about letting Ukraine build Patriot missiles

The US president's latest comments come weeks after he offered Kyiv the right to make the missiles.

www.bbc.com

 

[dpic73]

https://apnews.com/article/nato-trump-iran-ukraine-turkey-d393e8ef6103e32c984c4337a82930b1

Zelenskyy says Trump has decided to grant Ukraine Patriot licence

Kyiv has been pushing for a licence to produce Patriot interceptors domestically, arguing that they are crucial to its ability to defend against Russian ballistic missile attacks.

www.euronews.com

Trump now 'not sure' about letting Ukraine build Patriot missiles

The US president's latest comments come weeks after he offered Kyiv the right to make the missiles.

www.bbc.com

That was then, now he and Hegseth are hedging.

 

[dpic73]

 

[dpic73]

 

[dpic73]

Trump administration holds up Patriot missiles for Ukraine​

Delays in approving transfers from partner countries coincide with a worsening rupture between President Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelensky.

The Trump administration has not approved the transfer of interceptor missiles to Ukraine that are needed to protect the country from Russian missile and drone attacks, officials said Monday, a delay that comes as President Donald Trump has embraced Russia and slammed Ukraine in recent weeks.

At least some of the transfers of Patriot interceptor missiles are from countries friendly to Ukraine that require Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to approve the handoff, according to a U.S. official and three additional people familiar with the situation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss diplomatic exchanges. The United States retains control because the weapons are made by it and are shipped abroad under the agreement that transfers to other countries require U.S. sign-off.

A Ukrainian official told The Washington Post last week that “only a couple” of interceptor missiles remain in Ukraine’s stockpile.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/10/19/amid-deteriorating-relations-washington-holds-up-patriots-kyiv/

 

[baltimorened]

We have descended to living in Alice's Rabbit Hole

https://apnews.com/article/nato-trump-iran-ukraine-turkey-d393e8ef6103e32c984c4337a82930b1

Zelenskyy says Trump has decided to grant Ukraine Patriot licence

Kyiv has been pushing for a licence to produce Patriot interceptors domestically, arguing that they are crucial to its ability to defend against Russian ballistic missile attacks.

www.euronews.com

Trump now 'not sure' about letting Ukraine build Patriot missiles

The US president's latest comments come weeks after he offered Kyiv the right to make the missiles.

www.bbc.com

and of course you understand that the funded delivery period in the US is just about 4 years...maybe Ukraine can start from scratch and manufacture them faster

 

[dpic73]

 

[Dadar]

I have zero doubt anymore that trump is an asset to Russia for his self interest. To him the oath of office was meaningless

 

[baltimorened]

I have zero doubt anymore that trump is an asset to Russia for his self interest. To him the oath of office was meaningless

let's have a Congressional investigation on that, how about an outside special counsel...

 

[Dadar]

let's have a Congressional investigation on that, how about an outside special counsel...

If you believe a just investigation under this administration would be possible, you are even more off your rocker than I imagined. Whether you are aware of it or not you are doing the work of Russian bots Putin and Trump would appreciate your service

 

[dpic73]

"Whoever that person is has the blood on their hands every bit as much as Vladimir Putin."

 

[Dadar]

"Whoever that person is has the blood on their hands every bit as much as Vladimir Putin."

Minimal knowledge of history since WW2, Trump's entanglements with Russia and his actions during his entire time in and before office argue that he is an asset to Russia.

 

[Dadar]

President Donald Trump signed an executive order waiving the major economic sanctions and energy tariffs required by the Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia and Iran Act of 2026 just two days before they were scheduled to take effect.

 

[TigerGrowls]

If you believe a just investigation under this administration would be possible, you are even more off your rocker than I imagined. Whether you are aware of it or not you are doing the work of Russian bots Putin and Trump would appreciate your service

He's joking about the Mueller special counsel dodo.

 

[baltimorened]

If you believe a just investigation under this administration would be possible, you are even more off your rocker than I imagined. Whether you are aware of it or not you are doing the work of Russian bots Putin and Trump would appreciate your service

well, bot or not, you can make all the accusations you want, but I feel the same way about your's as I do about trump's 2020 election claims. If you have specific proof, and not like @dpic73's repost of left wing journalists or "influencers", than post it so we all can analyze. You make accusations that Trump is a Russian asset...OK, prove it...

you are so definitive in your claim, that you must have some specific evidence...

we're going to have a Democrat house, they can investigate...don't need this administration assets to do it

 

[TigerGrowls]

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/trump-big-announcement-coming-up-diesel-2026-10-09/

LOL, MAGA supports tariffs but also will support a diesel deal with Russia. Putin knows how to play Trump, I’ll give him that.

Well well well then. Any comment Einstein???



So it turns out that Ukraine's issues with Starlink were caused by Ukraine.

Starlink terminals disconnected at speeds above 160 KPH, as determined by the Starlink terminals internal GPS.

To get around this, Ukraine hacked the Starlink terminals to think they were stationary regardless of speed.

SpaceX figured this out, and updated the system software to detect excessive speed by seeing how rapidly the terminal switched from on satellite to another. This broke Ukraine's hack, and Starlink would no longer work at high speeds.

Ukraine was using Starlink in a way that violated the terms of service.

Starlink figured it out and stopped it.

 

[fsu1jreed]

Well well well then. Any comment Einstein???



So it turns out that Ukraine's issues with Starlink were caused by Ukraine.

Starlink terminals disconnected at speeds above 160 KPH, as determined by the Starlink terminals internal GPS.

To get around this, Ukraine hacked the Starlink terminals to think they were stationary regardless of speed.

SpaceX figured this out, and updated the system software to detect excessive speed by seeing how rapidly the terminal switched from on satellite to another. This broke Ukraine's hack, and Starlink would no longer work at high speeds.

Ukraine was using Starlink in a way that violated the terms of service.

Starlink figured it out and stopped it.

That money must be good

 

[baltimorened]

Well well well then. Any comment Einstein???



So it turns out that Ukraine's issues with Starlink were caused by Ukraine.

Starlink terminals disconnected at speeds above 160 KPH, as determined by the Starlink terminals internal GPS.

To get around this, Ukraine hacked the Starlink terminals to think they were stationary regardless of speed.

SpaceX figured this out, and updated the system software to detect excessive speed by seeing how rapidly the terminal switched from on satellite to another. This broke Ukraine's hack, and Starlink would no longer work at high speeds.

Ukraine was using Starlink in a way that violated the terms of service.

Starlink figured it out and stopped it.

interesting if accurate