Anyone watching the ESPN docuseries Saban?

[dcf4psu]

The first episode is fascinating. Saban had a losing record as a head coach until he was taught not to worry about the score, but the next play. And since each play lasts about 6 seconds he found it was a much was a better way to coach. His wins to loses took a dramatic turn once he stopped worrying about the score. I was thinking about what Coach Franklin was doing so often when the TV camera was on him: Looking at the scoreboard. Part two when they are discussing how important his wife was to his success, it reminded me of Sue Paterno and her role with JoePa's success.

 

[barry j fenchak]

Nick is the GOAT, hands down the best.

 

[dcf4psu]

Nick is the GOAT, hands down the best.

And his road getting there wasn't a simple linear line upward.

 

[razpsu]

The first episode is fascinating. Saban had a losing record as a head coach until he was taught not to worry about the score, but the next play. And since each play lasts about 6 seconds he found it was a much was a better way to coach. His wins to loses took a dramatic turn once he stopped worrying about the score. I was thinking about what Coach Franklin was doing so often when the TV camera was on him: Looking at the scoreboard. Part two when they are discussing how important his wife was to his success, it reminded me of Sue Paterno and her role with JoePa's success.

He was taught? lol. He won the natty at lsu before going to bama.

He was very good. It did help that he didn’t play ga 10-12 years in the regular season and had 8 conf games, just saying!

 

[barry j fenchak]

Natties at 2 different schools, 7 total. Will probably never be duplicated.

 

[BobPSU92]

He should have worried about EXPLOSIVE. PLAYS. and winning the MIDDLE. EIGHT. .

 

[barry j fenchak]

He should have worried about EXPLOSIVE. PLAYS. and winning the MIDDLE. EIGHT. .

Some individuals accomplish great achievements, others talk about making them.

 

[dcf4psu]

He was taught? lol. He won the natty at lsu before going to bama.

He was very good. It did help that he didn’t play ga 10-12 years in the regular season and had 8 conf games, just saying!

Yes, at Michigan State.

 

[Binder74]

Yes, at Michigan State.

I could be remembering it wrong but I think he used to give Joe problems with Michigan State.

 

[barry j fenchak]

I could be remembering it wrong but I think he used to give Joe problems with Michigan State.

He certainly added to Joe's problems with Bama.

 

[ClydeKickstand]

Well, the bag men helped a little.

 

[Catch1lion]

I saw a clip where Nick said he left MSU caused they had a handshake agreement for an additional $100k and MSU never paid up .

 

[Warlerski]

Well, the bag men helped a little.

Have you noticed that once everyone had a bag man (NIL) the gap between the SEC and everyone else closed?

 

[LMTLION]

Well, the bag men helped a little.

Exactly. They were all over the southern schools. I don’t give a saban an ounce of credit. He practiced NIL before it was legal.

 

[dcf4psu]

I could be remembering it wrong but I think he used to give Joe problems with Michigan State.

I checked and he was 2-3 against Penn State while at MSU.

 

[dcf4psu]

I saw a clip where Nick said he left MSU caused they had a handshake agreement for an additional $100k and MSU never paid up .

This is discussed in episode 1.

 

[razpsu]

I checked and he was 2-3 against Penn State while at MSU.

Yes he won 97-99 when we gave up basically when both teams were 9-0 then screwed it up.

 

[royboy]

Yeah, very interesting series, just saw Part 2 today (after watching Part 1 and making sure to bookmark remaining shows).

• His wife, Miss Terry, has been a very important part of his success, not just in her support of him, but in recruiting, public relations, motivator (took the job interview at LSU so Nick could stay at Michigan State and not be subject to early media attention).
• Nick was very demanding and vocal on the practice field; players feared and respected him
• Really cared about the players and helped them not only in developing their football potential, but also in getting an education and being a good citizen
• Very ambitious guy who worked his tail off; continued to educate himself on football trends, and motivational techniques

 

[Big_O]

Exactly. They were all over the southern schools. I don’t give a saban an ounce of credit. He practiced NIL before it was legal.

Why do you think he retired when NIL was made legal. It leveled the playing field and he could no longer stock talent.

 

[Auxgym]

I checked and he was 2-3 against Penn State while at MSU.

I don’t think so. Saban was 1 and 3 vs PSU at Mich St. 2 and 0 when he was at Bama.

 

[dcf4psu]

I don’t think so. Saban was 1 and 3 vs PSU at Mich St. 2 and 0 when he was at Bama.

He coached MSU for five years and played PSU each year. He was 2-3.

 

[Catch1lion]

Yeah, very interesting series, just saw Part 2 today (after watching Part 1 and making sure to bookmark remaining shows).

• His wife, Miss Terry, has been a very important part of his success, not just in her support of him, but in recruiting, public relations, motivator (took the job interview at LSU so Nick could stay at Michigan State and not be subject to early media attention).
• Nick was very demanding and vocal on the practice field; players feared and respected him
• Really cared about the players and helped them not only in developing their football potential, but also in getting an education and being a good citizen
• Very ambitious guy who worked his tail off; continued to educate himself on football trends, and motivational techniques

IIRC, his father was a hard working man, who owned a gas station in rural WV. He taught Nick the work ethic, and also kindness in his charitable acts. The old adage, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

 

[Anon1759755408]

I'm about half way through it now. It's very good.

A lot of interesting things in there. One being I had no idea LSU was in such disarray before he got there.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

I was watching it for a while on the , but then I finished and turned it off.

 

[Nitt1300]

GOAT

like him or not, it doesn't matter

 

[saturdaysarebetter]

When the playing field was level at Michigan State and in Miami, how did he do? $EC bagmen made the difference.

 

[CowbellMan]

Imagine if Joe’s PSU teams had been Voted #1 for each time he went undefeated.

Imagine if there were a playoff in 2005. Or any time he went 10-1.

Imagine if Bama didn’t get voted into a 2 team “playoff” when Okie State should have been in instead.

Imagine winning a National Championship without beating the champion of any other league.

Imagine if the SEC wasn’t propped up by ESPN as the only conference of value during the BCS time and when a 4 team “playoff” arrived, it turned out there actually were other teams.

He’s great. Greater than Paterno? Not for me.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Nick is the GOAT, hands down the best.

The greatest self admitted cheat and goat sh-it eater, that's what Nick is.