Officially Unofficial K1 status from Pete Thamel

johnson86-1

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Yes, to 2 top 20 teams on the road that are better than us.
This is one of the dumber posts I've seen on this board. Ole Miss got shellacked by a mediocre Florida team that has been shellacked by two teams we beat on the road. UK went to overtime to beat USCe on the road. They got beat by Bama at home just like we did.

If we were healthy, I'd actually expect us to win this game. We're not healthy and we're probably not going to win, but we'd definitely have a shot if Fluff were healthy and KT had just limited mobility rather than something that's likely going to make it difficult to run and probably mess with his throwing.
 

Perd Hapley

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Honestly, it's hard to say what to do when we don't know the injury details. He can play through a grade 1 or 2 turf toe. It will be a pain tolerance issue and it will have to heal after the season. He won't be mobile either way. A grade 3 requires sitting and surgery. A hammy means less mobility and a bad ankle does too. Either way he's a statue with a bad plant foot with whatever is going on.

Correct. Whether or not he CAN play through it is, quite frankly, irrelevant.

The actual question is whether or not him playing through it makes the offense so limited that him playing creates far more risk than reward. Risks of course being further aggravation, a new or more severe injury, or even more of the same sporadically poor play that we saw against Alabama with off-target throws due to inability to follow proper mechanics with his plant foot. He also may be generally not sharp due to lack of practice.

We should have a capable back-up that gives us at least a puncher’s chance. In this era, there’s no excuse for any SEC team to not have at least two halfway decent QB’s on the roster that can run the offense and score points. Time will tell if we do.
 

Maroon13

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Polish rifle 2.0. (Although Todd Jordan really had a bad ankle sprain). Anyways, Taylor plays Saturday. At least to start the game.

What limits the offense is not having a healthy Fluff.... and his or the coaching staff's reluctance to run him.
 

Drebin

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Did Tom Brady have to be mobile? Dude won a Super Bowl with the Buccaneers standing back there slinging it. Just surround KT with a world class OL and he'll be just fine. I just get the vibe that there's a significant gap between him and the backup QB's. Those Croom years were very traumatic for me LOL.
Kamario doesn't have the offensive line to just stand back there and sling it. And there's still some accuracy issues at times. His super power is being able to escape the rush, make throws on the run, or make plays with his feet. And then hit on explosive plays when the run game is complementary. If he isn't mobile, and our run game isn't producing, the offense stagnates. Nobody wants to hear this but it's the truth.
 

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Kamario doesn't have the offensive line to just stand back there and sling it. And there's still some accuracy issues at times. His super power is being able to escape the rush, make throws on the run, or make plays with his feet. And then hit on explosive plays when the run game is complementary. If he isn't mobile, and our run game isn't producing, the offense stagnates. Nobody wants to hear this but it's the truth.
Yea, if he is a statue back there and teams don't have to respect him running, his effectiveness is going to go way down just like it did against Bama later in the game.
 

BoDawg.sixpack

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Based on what? Like your positivity though.
He was a prep school phenom whose stats speak highly of his leadership and athletic ability. In 2023, Prep lost to West Jones by score of 6 to 21. In 2024 they won 42 -7. He flipped the margin by 50 points in one year. His cumulative prep record was 42-11 with a 9:1 TD to INT ratio his senior year. That's alright. He's only played in two games so far this year but he has looked like a serviceable QB who has not come close to his ceiling yet.
 

patdog

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He was a prep school phenom whose stats speak highly of his leadership and athletic ability. In 2023, Prep lost to West Jones by score of 6 to 21. In 2024 they won 42 -7. He flipped the margin by 50 points in one year. His cumulative prep record was 42-11 with a 9:1 TD to INT ratio his senior year. That's alright. He's only played in two games so far this year but he has looked like a serviceable QB who has not come close to his ceiling yet.
2023 game WJ had one of the best HS defenses I've ever seen. They just overwhelmed the Prep line. Puckett was getting immediate pressure and taking hits all night long. But he kept getting up and throwing the ball (completed 1 deep pass which led to their points). I thought, man that QB is tough. 2024 all 11 players from that defense were playing JUCO or Div II ball. And he just torched them. Bad.
 

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I took that leak to mean he’s playing. lol.

If Thamel has the scoop it probably came directly from Lebby or at least with Lebby’s permission to share. I don’t know why we’d leak that he’s MAYBE out unless we were trying to out-Kiffin, Kiffin.

Which is entirely possible because I think Lebby and Kiffin have beef from the OM days and to Lebby this may be his first realistic shot at beating Lane.
If you listen to Lebby's press conference today he actually said in reference to KT day to day and week to week. I think they asked him so many questions about KT's health he accidentally let that one slip.
 

TilloDwg

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Is Missouri better than us?
Do we win there ? Yes or no ? It's a miracle we pulled the win out here...with the leading rusher(300 of which came at our expense) in the league last year out for them. Kentucky on the road would be a toss-up. We are similar, good but not great.


This is one of the dumber posts I've seen on this board. Ole Miss got shellacked by a mediocre Florida team that has been shellacked by two teams we beat on the road. UK went to overtime to beat USCe on the road. They got beat by Bama at home just like we did.

If we were healthy, I'd actually expect us to win this game. We're not healthy and we're probably not going to win, but we'd definitely have a shot if Fluff were healthy and KT had just limited mobility rather than something that's likely going to make it difficult to run and probably mess with his throwing.
Correction: we beat 1 of them on the road. Florida losing to Mizzou on the road is not surprising...losing to USCE is shocking. I can only assume they were making travel arrangements to Austin and looking ahead to this week's game.
We're pretty good at home, and ok on the road. KT and Fluff are injured..sit them out, let them get healthy, and have them ready for the stretch run.
We all gonna be mad if somebody ends their season in BR AND get our *** whipped. No sense in both happening.
 

Walkthedawg

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If he is not at least 85%-90% Saturday and there is hope for improvement by the Oklahoma game, he needs to sit it out.


You have to admit. It takes a lot of talent, and a sprinkling in of the word "sources", to write an X article to tell you the same thing you have known for a week and a half and make it sound like you have just been told new news.
 
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BossDawg78

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Jesus Christ, some of y’all are such schitty fans. I hate that I’m a fan of the same team as you. Kentucky is not 17ing better than us. I hope some of y’all are trolls because it pisses me off that we supposedly cheer for the same team.

Not schitty, just realistic. I think most of us are just pissed off because we have all seen this movie before and we know what the outcome will be. We'll play like trash while LSU plays their best game of the season and makes us look like chumps. We're just sick of it and being sarcastically pessimistic is a way to cope for some. I'd give anything to be wrong but we all know what's coming.
 
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Sick and tired of people saying concede this game. In this age of college football, you are playing for the playoff. I could care less if state makes it into whatever bowl. You lose Saturday and the playoff is out the window. We have two seasons with K1. If he can stand, go out fighting.
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patdog

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Sick and tired of people saying concede this game. In this age of college football, you are playing for the playoff. I could care less if state makes it into whatever bowl. You lose Saturday and the playoff is out the window. We have two seasons with K1. If he can stand, go out fighting.
You play to win the game. If Kamario can play he will play. Only a loser would even think about sitting him.
 

Perd Hapley

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Sick and tired of people saying concede this game. In this age of college football, you are playing for the playoff. I could care less if state makes it into whatever bowl. You lose Saturday and the playoff is out the window. We have two seasons with K1. If he can stand, go out fighting.
If K1 can not only play, but play WELL, and not be of any risk for further injury aggravation, or be of any risk for a new injury due to compensating for the existing one, then he should play. Otherwise, he should sit.
 

MSUDC11-2.0

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Sick and tired of people saying concede this game. In this age of college football, you are playing for the playoff. I could care less if state makes it into whatever bowl. You lose Saturday and the playoff is out the window. We have two seasons with K1. If he can stand, go out fighting.
We’re literally the higher ranked team. Screw conceding this game to them. People are acting like LSU is Alabama 2.0 when this team already has losses to Kentucky and an Ole Miss team without a defense.
 

L4Dawg

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We’re literally the higher ranked team. Screw conceding this game to them. People are acting like LSU is Alabama 2.0 when this team already has losses to Kentucky and an Ole Miss team without a defense.
It depends on the injuries. We are a very different team when healthy.
 

Drebin

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The losers saying play Puckett will be the same ones saying fire Lebby if he only wins 6/7 games.
Lots to unpack here....I'd just say that KT needs to play if he can play, but I suspect it will be Puckett. And if it ends up being Puckett, that doesn't absolve Lebby of anything or create an excuse for him because he's responsible for the roster construction that made us so reliant on the health of one player. I get that it's a special player, but if the backup was better, if he was surrounded by a better OL, and if I felt better about our ability to run the ball or for our defense to get off the field on third down, or if I felt better about Lebby's ability to scheme up a unique game plan to suit the situation, then maybe we would be more willing to cut him a break.
 
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L4Dawg

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Lots to unpack here....I'd just say that KT needs to play if he can play, but I suspect it will be Puckett. And if it ends up being Puckett, that doesn't absolve Lebby of anything or create an excuse for him because he's responsible for the roster construction that made us so reliant on the health of one player. I get that it's a special player, but if the backup was better, if he was surrounded by a better OL, and if I felt better about our ability to run the ball or for our defense to get off the field on third down, or if I felt better about Lebby's ability to scheme up a unique game plan to suit the situation, then maybe we would be more willing to cut him a break.
Scheming to suit the situation is overrated. If you have to do more than minor tweaks you are in deep trouble before you ever start. Roster construction now has less to do with the coach than at anytime in history. We have to overpay across the board to get people to come here, and it handicaps us. For the record, I'm still firmly on the fence about Lebby.
 
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Drebin

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Scheming to suit the situation is overrated. If you have to do more than minor tweaks you are in deep trouble before you ever start. Roster construction now has less to do with the coach than at anytime in history. We have to overpay across the board to get people to come here, and it handicaps us. For the record, I'm still firmly on the fence about Lebby.
Scheming to suit the situation is overrated? It's arguably the most important thing a coach does.

You don't have to overpay across the board if you know how to evaluate and bring in the right complementary talent. There's a difference between recruiting for need and throwing money at the most expensive option.
 
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TXDawg.sixpack

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Not schitty, just realistic. I think most of us are just pissed off because we have all seen this movie before and we know what the outcome will be. We'll play like trash while LSU plays their best game of the season and makes us look like chumps. We're just sick of it and being sarcastically pessimistic is a way to cope for some. I'd give anything to be wrong but we all know what's coming.
Didn't work that way in 2014.

That said, a healthy KT1 and Fluff would make me a lot more confident.
 

L4Dawg

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Scheming to suit the situation is overrated? It's arguably the most important thing a coach does.

You don't have to overpay across the board if you know how to evaluate and bring in the right complementary talent. There's a difference between recruiting for need and throwing money at the most expensive option.
Dreamworld
 

Drebin

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Dreamworld
It's a dreamworld where most of the top programs in the country live in reality. There are alot of programs who recruit at a lower level than us or who have less NIL to work with than us who find a way to be successful. Not just successful, but consistently successful.
 

L4Dawg

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It's a dreamworld where most of the top programs in the country live in reality. There are alot of programs who recruit at a lower level than us or who have less NIL to work with than us who find a way to be successful. Not just successful, but consistently successful.
Your roster is constructed to play a certain way. If you try to change that drastically for one game you get a square peg in a round hole. That's just the way it works. You moved the goal posts by the way, unintentionally I‘m sure. We were discussing the LSU game, not the philosophical approach for the entire program over time.
 

Drebin

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Your roster is constructed to play a certain way. If you try to change that drastically for one game you get a square peg in a round hole. That's just the way it works. You moved the goal posts by the way, unintentionally I‘m sure. We were discussing the LSU game, not the philosophical approach for the entire program over time.
Maybe you were talking about the LSU game. I'm talking about general capability. A roster is constructed a certain way but it doesn't mean you have to keep handing the ball off into the teeth of a zero run blitz because that's how the roster is constructed. This is why coaches game plan and make in-game adjustments. And this particular coach's inability to deviate from a script is why we almost always come out guns blazing but then have long lulls of stagnation once the other coach makes his adjustments. Every play design and every formation is typically going to have multiple counters off of it based on what the opposing coach is doing or trying to take away. You don't have to be some great ball knower to understand this - if you've ever played Madden at a rookie level, you would understand this.

Your position on this is frankly astonishing.
 
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