I have seen no evidence to back up this claim.
Trump is planning some big surprises
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False. The narrative is that the guy who wouldn't, and still won't, accept the results of a free and fair election (the 2020 POTUS election), and used illegal means to try to circumvent the results, would, again try to illegally manipulate future elections. How, exactly ... was never known. Possibilities were thrown out, but your false narrative that it was always X, and now it's Y, is just lazy, at best ... and, more realistically, willful misrepresentation.
We don't all know that. You know why we don't all know that? Because when Trump won ... twice ... there was no meaningful Dem-wide push to invalidate the results. When midterms didn't go the Dems' way, there was no meaningful Dem-wide push to invalidate the results.
Now is when you show fringe pockets of resistance and fringe narratives that were never meaningfully perpetuated, and claim that this is proof that "both sides" do it, even though there's absolutely no equivalence between those isolated weirdos, and an insurrection followed by 8 years of incessant claims (and lawsuits) by the folks at the tippy top of the guilty party's structure, as well as the still prevailing beliefs of his remaining sycophants.
And, now we see your Fuhrer again talking and acting in ways that suggest that he's up to no good, yet again.
He's clinically unwell, obviously. But he's also smart enough to know that he can still take advantage of the mentally infirm - his remaining followers (your wife allegedly being one of those).
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I didn't say they did, I said it didn't matter and again, they didn't say "it was" they said it had "the classic earmarks."
The other party did know what was on it and still tried to imply that there was evidence of Joe's corruption when there was not.
This laptop/fraudulent election connection has got to be one of the lamest, flimsiest theories of all time.
Besides the fact that I consistently bust you for misinformation you mean. That would make me <checks notes> smarter than you.
The laptop showed that Biden was lying repeatedly when he said he knew nothing about Hunter's business, given that there were numerous photos with the 'partners' and calendar entries that showed otherwise. Is that enough implication for you, dic?
Since you consistently do it, provide some examples. I just busted you in 86, btw.
Tell me about Joe's corruption please.
First, at the time of the "Big Guy" claim, he wasn't in power, nor is there any evidence that he knew about the deal. It's also not illegal to do business in China, but the deal was never consummated anyway so he never even received a penny.
There is also zero evidence that anything he did led to favors for foreign entities.
If you're trying to implicate that he lied based on photos & calendars I'm laughing at you - A fuggin Trump supporter.
We're talking about corruption, not fibs.
I do it consistently and you know it because you're famous for stretching the truth or assigning dark meaning to nothingburgers. Feel free to do your own searches but let's stick to the subject please - there was no need for your insult directed at me when I wasn't even engaging with you.
Corruption includes "Using deception for ... personal gain". Do you disagree, dic?
Moreover, he explicitly lied about the laptop during the debate with Trump. More corruption.
So let's get this straight, he should have lost because he told a lie while he was running against Donald Fuggin Trump?
The bar is very high for those you don't support but non-existent for the ones you do.
No, he should have lost because he was senile and corrupt - and moreover, said that migrants should 'surge' the border, the worst and most damaging national domestic policy in our modern history.So let's be clear, he should have lost because he told a lie while he was running against Donald Fuggin Trump?
The bar is very high for those you don't support but non-existent for the ones you do.
I didn't even mention the word concede. We were discussing claims of election stealing. I just googled about 2016 and all the pops up is claims from democrats about validity of the election...
People don't often quickly concede an election they thought was stolen.
you're making my point...both campaigns used the laptop for their own advantage..
by the way I'll totally concede they they didn't say "it was", but just for curiosity purposes what do you think was the intention of using the words "Classic earmarks"?
Joe lied in the debate about what they wrote - which was the intent of the letter in the first place:
" Look, there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he's accusing me of is a Russian plant. They have said that this has all the—four, five former heads of the CIA, both parties, say what he's saying is a bunch of garbage."
Is this too complicated for you to follow, dic?
Still waiting for your corruption evidence but then I ask that you do Trump.
He did not tell migrants to surge the border, that's a patent lie and why it's so frustrating debating you because you have no interest in getting it right.
He did in a June 2019 primary debate - and obviously they got the message because the caravans started forming as soon as he won the election.
Look man, they didn't have access to the computer and no one in their right mind would trust a story planted by Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon for fuc.ks sake, right before the election. So I believe they thought they were telling the truth about how it appeared because of the ghouls who were promoting it. What they were doing was dirty and you know it, so your anger is misplaced.
For the record, here I am busting you again. He said he would surge government resources to the border, he did not ask migrants to surge there.
"He stated that he would "immediately surge to the border all those people that are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are."
The point was to write a letter that Joe could point to and say 51 intelligence pros said the laptop is Russian disinfo, which is what he did.
Still too complicated for you to follow, dic?
They didn't have access to the laptop so it's just as likely that they believed it could have been Russian misinformation.
"immediately surge to the border all those people".
Is this also too complicated for you, dic?
Not to mention, he canceled Trump's wait-in-Mexico policy as soon as he stumbled into office.
Somehow you can't understand a word he says until he says something you don't like, even if you misunderstood what he meant. Suddenly it's clear as a bell. Do you understand what the word "we" means?
If you checked the link.
"But important context is missing. The clip was from the Sept. 12, 2019, Democratic presidential debate. A moderator, Jorge Ramos of Univision, discussing immigration issues, notes that Biden served as vice president in President Barack Obama's administration, which deported 3 million people. He then asks if Biden is “prepared to say tonight that you and President Obama made a mistake.”
Biden answers by noting Obama's accomplishments in immigration and discussing the policies of then-President Trump. He adds, “What I would do as president is several more things, because things have changed. I would, in fact, make sure that there is -- we immediately surge to the border. All those people who are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard. That’s who we are.”
Since then Biden has spoken repeatedly of sending agents and other law enforcement resources to the border to deal with the migrant influx."
Those 51 intel pros were not that dumb.
The FBI knew it was real, the DNI said it was real, and testimony by a former Navy office / business partner said that he had meant Biden during 'business' discussions.
And lo and behold, after the election all the mainstream media and everybody else discovered it was real - except Hunter and Joe.
Ok, the laptop is a boring side story. I've got things to do.
" The signatories did not examine the physical laptop or have access to any classified or specific internal government intelligence proving the emails were forged. They based their public statement on their past experience in the intelligence community and the political context of the election." [1, 2]
This is why you (and Maga at large) isn't taken seriously. You cried wolf over and over during the Biden admin, and even if ALL the allegations were true, it would be a slow Tuesday for the current Trump administration as far as corruption and scandal goes.
You know this. Everyone knows this. It's disingenuous to even insinuate otherwise
You're putting words in his mouth he did not say.
Moreover, throughout the campaign he said he would end Trump's remain-in-Mexico policy, which he did.
Even if you are too dim to understand, the millions of refugees who flooded across the border understood him and acted accordingly - including thousands of child and sex traffickers, drug smugglers, criminals, etc.
Like dic, you don't understand the full meaning of corruption. Look it up.
Trump has done nothing that approaches the magnitude and tragedy of this national disgrace caused by a corrupt and senile president you voted for, tigress.
Management Alert - ICE Cannot Monitor All Unaccompanied Migrant Children Released from DHS and U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' Custody | Office of Inspector General
Morell testified that the Biden campaign "helped to strategize about the public release of the statement."
"Morell further explained that one of his two goals in releasing the statement was to help then-Vice President Biden in the debate and to assist him in winning the election," Jordan and Turner wrote.
Morell testified: "There were two intents. One intent was to share our concern with the American people that the Russians were playing on this issue; and, two, it was to help Vice President Biden."
Morell was asked why he wanted to help Biden.
"Because I wanted him to win the election," Morell testified.
Biden campaign, Blinken orchestrated intel letter to discredit Hunter Biden laptop story, ex-CIA official says | House Judiciary Committee Republicans
we've already gone back and forth on your migrant children conspiracy theory that was an administration error. The kids weren't trafficked or anything, and you know this.
You can stand by your silly lil conspiracy theories, but the public at large has no idea of your cute little conspiracies or issues, and they'll fade into oblivion like maga will.
Will you finally be embarrassed then about your crazy views? I hope so- it would be goo for you to experience some shame for once
The answer is NO. No matter what evidence is ever produced, it will not be enough. This is no different than C-19. IT believes, IT knows. Anything contrary to what IT believes will not be accepted.
IT will assuredly post things from any number of AI platforms that refute anything you say.
Also, since IT is a stalker, I expect a reply to my post, in 3...2...1
IT'S just going to call you a liar. I gave up responding to this ***** a long time ago.
IT is a pha**ot. Not worthy of a response. A demonrat POS.
C'mon Ned. Hillary said after the election, and to this day, the 2016 election was stolen from her. She brought up some country most of Americans had never heard of.
This has happened in every election since 2000 when democrats lose. It's only an issue when "R's" bring it up.
"D's" brought up problems with voting "machines" until they were elected. Then it was a crime to even bring up the subject.
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