I am excited about football, but I love State basketball when they are good, maybe more than football. I was really disappointed in last year's team. Would you say that Jans is on the hot seat this year?
How much more time does Jans have?
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I have similar concerns. He did elevate the program but has fallen short of my expectations especially since getting a player like Hubbard and not doing much with it. Last year was very disappointing. I'd say his seat is starting the season a bit warm and a lot depends on how it goes. If we don't make the tourney I think we need to move on.
No reason to pay a buy out for basketball when we need $$ to go all in for football for the next 2 years.
So I think he is safe.
I think he’ll get at least two more years. With 5 for 5 passing that means we could have Hubbard for two more years as well.
I think if he misses the expanded NCAAT the next two years he’d probably be gone. But I expect it won’t come to that.
I think if he misses the expanded NCAAT the next two years he’d probably be gone. But I expect it won’t come to that.
To me , going to expanded NCAAT is like going to the Independence Bowl every year!
And neither is generally going to get a coach at Mississippi State fired
We're going to be much improved this year. Like I said about Lebby before this year, all of this hot seat talk will be a waste of time if the team is making the progress I think. Jans is going to take a step too this year.
This is the answer. If we suck again which is a distinct possibility, should his seat be warming up? Yes
But are we in any position to pay a multi-million dollar buyout so that we can just go make some ho hum replacement hire that likely isn't any better? Nope
We might be able to if we get that multi-million dollar deal from New Balance.
Perhaps wait to see what seed we are, before complaining about being selected in the expanded NCAAT.
He will also have been to the NCAA tourney in 3 out of 5 years at worst this year. I know the trend won't look great, but there's just no way we fire a guy that has made the tournament 60% of his time here. It's going to at minimum take missing the tournament the next two years and even then I think it may have to look like there is no reason to expect the next year to be better. If we suck this year and end up on the bubble next year, I would still expect him to have a decent chance to keep his job if we have promising players coming back. But not sure how to think about being on the bubble after the expansion. Maybe he will need to make it regardless as I think with the expanded field, at least the top 50 teams will make it? Being in the top 50 as a P4 team should I guess be a pretty attainable goal, even at a relatively have not?
I don't know what our basketball NIL budget is. Some SEC schools are spending as much on their basketball NIL as we spend on football.
If our basketball NIL is seriously lacking, do we have to give Jans a pass like we had to give Lebby one?
If our basketball NIL is seriously lacking, do we have to give Jans a pass like we had to give Lebby one?
From what I know, we are in good shape with basketball NIL.
Is that second sentence true? Are you talking about UK only? Who the hell is spending $25-30M on basketball?
Basketball NIL is in line with most of the SEC. He’s just totally whiffed on the portal evaluations.
Yea, I would be surprised if we're not top 50 in the nation in basketball. 68 P4 schools and then Gonzaga, UConn, and probably a nother handful of big spending schools outside of the P4? I would think we actually outspend a good number. Of course the gap is probably small between 50th and 65th. Maybe between 30th and 65th.
I don't know if it is true. The Athletic had an article on the sharp rise of basketball NIL. They quoted an anonymous SEC coach as saying at least 3 SEC schools would have roster budgets of $30 MM or more this year. Uk, obviously. UF, almost certainly - just take a look at their roster. I don't know the third, but I would start by looking at the Texas schools and maybe Arkansas
It would help if Jans can sign baby Dampier. If he’s half his Dad he’s worth whatever we can come up with. It’s been a long time since we had a great Center.
If that’s the case his seat needs to be red hot. He hasn’t just totally whiffed on his evaluations. He’s spectacularly whiffed. If you’ve got nil miney it should not be possible to recruit transfers this badly.
I’m more in line with what dawgstudent said. You just let him keep going because of his buyout. I would also wait and see what he does with high school recruiting. He’s on some big talent that hopefully he can pull.
We’ll see. But I agree. It’s basketball. It will always be #3 at Mississippi State.
This. It happens at all levels, NFL, NBA, etc. Before the season got going good, I remember Hadad saying we had missed on several evaluations and to "sit this season out."
As long as he wants as long as we don’t get embarrassed We will never put the money in for him to win any championships. AD will keep him on just so he won’t have to go thru hiring another HC. I think jans leaves for greener pastures on his own and I couldn’t blame him
Last season was a bust because you missed on all of your portal guys. That shouldn’t happen, but it does in this era. Jans has also been a victim of the conference being the best it’s been since when? The team that had Keugel, Melendez, etc had no business being an 8/9 in the tournament, but the SEC was up that year and it hurt that team’s chances.
Jans is the 16th highest paid coach in NCAA. With his track record and style of play, I don’t think there are many greener pastures
I’m not a Jans hater, but in the 4 years that he’s been here, he hasn’t won a single tournament game, his portal management has been a disaster, his HS recruiting hasn’t been much better, and the program is on a downward trend.
I’m not saying that he won’t have any suitors, but I’m not sure that he’ll have people lining up at his door
Looks like he fixed the length issue. We should be able to defend the perimeter much better than the last 2 years. Hope Bartlett has dropped some weight and got himself in shape.
This is a point that I think a lot of people forget. This isn’t like football where our staff is in the bottom 3-4 of the league in compensation. Jans is just a notch below Sean Miller and Nate Oats
I don't think it matters. Basketball is a secondary or tertiary sport for us now behind football and baseball. It barely breaks even financially, so it will always be punching above its weight to succeed, no matter who the coach is.
Murphy getting in the portal so late hurt. Made us overpay on Ballard and then go after Brandon Walker who had no business anywhere near an SEC gym.
I'm buying on this years team as well. Not great, but improved players from last year no doubt.
He's very, very good. It would be a a huge pull if we can get him.
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