Brown is 16th or 17th best BIG QB

jhoosh43

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The irony of saying someone is not a good person (presuming you don’t know him personally) and then calling him simple-minded is pretty hilarious.
I have enough personal experience with people that use the same very specific language he uses in every player interview to know some of his character. Those ppl do not make good leaders, only manipulators. They twist things that I take very seriously and use it to hurt other ppl.

It concerns me that he is in a position of leadership on the team. Most of the players probably see through his bs and don’t connect with him. If he continues to struggle and keep the starting spot, I don’t think the team will stay together.
 

DuddyB

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I have enough personal experience with people that use the same very specific language he uses in every player interview to know some of his character. Those ppl do not make good leaders, only manipulators. They twist things that I take very seriously and use it to hurt other ppl.

It concerns me that he is in a position of leadership on the team. Most of the players probably see through his bs and don’t connect with him. If he continues to struggle and keep the starting spot, I don’t think the team will stay together.
So you don’t like that he is front facing Christian essentially and that makes him not a good person?
 
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93hawkeye

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This is on Lester, team is good enough for a playoff run, but we came into the year without a legit QB talent
based on what? 12 team playoff means you think the Hawks are one of the 12 best and can 'make a run', meaning win playoff games. I don't understand where you're getting that.
 

Stoopsbrother

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Seems like there were a lot of Brown supporters prior to the OSU game and now they have switched. I posted earlier that the OL is unfortunately part of the problem. Lets see what happens Friday, got a feeling Hawks rebound back with a W. And yes I know the West coast jinx.
the o line can only hold their blocks for so long! #9 takes forever to get the ball out.
 

Jonesy5960

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But, does Lester REALLY have the necessary autonomy to get the job done?
He's not operating in a vacuum if that's what you're asking. I think if Iowa had unlimited funds you'd probably see someone else playing QB, but they don't and were hoping they had enough juice and experience in the room to get by.
 
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Smigamorski

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Lesters scheme works, receivers are constantly getting open. Whichever qb can process and hit the open targets should play. Hank has the better arm but you don't need a strong arm to be successful in this system. I do worry this system it too much for college players though. It takes NFL players years to master a pro system and even some of the most talented young NFL QBs are not developing at the rates they should.
 
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HawksRule25

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This Heck fever dream is crazy. Heck played in both of those games and he was bad in both.

NIU
7-16 76 yards 1TD,1 INT 92 Passer Rating 10.5 QBR

UNI
6-11 65 yards 1 sack 104 Passer Rating 9.6 QBR

 

jhoosh43

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So you don’t like that he is front facing Christian essentially and that makes him not a good person?
Front facing Christian is not what I have a problem with. If you aren’t familiar with the type of ppl that use the very specific language he uses, then you’re fortunate.

I’m not surprised he has trouble making reads against decent defenses. Someone with his mindset typically can’t operate in chaos. They also can’t relate to most human beings. I don’t see him getting past panicking in the pocket and locking onto his first read.
 

UIAlumFireFighter

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Front facing Christian is not what I have a problem with. If you aren’t familiar with the type of ppl that use the very specific language he uses, then you’re fortunate.

I’m not surprised he has trouble making reads against decent defenses. Someone with his mindset typically can’t operate in chaos. They also can’t relate to most human beings. I don’t see him getting past panicking in the pocket and locking onto his first read.
This is absolutely, 1,000% F’ing stupid.
 

DuddyB

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I’ll simplify it for those of you that think Christianity is one thing (I am a Christian btw). He’s evangelical. It’s religious extremism, and it’s a problem.
At the risk of derailing the thread, I don’t know how any Christian can not be pro-evangelizing. It’s not religious extremism, it’s a core belief and what God and Jesus Christ ask us to do. I can understand why that might bother some nonbelievers but I’ve literally never met a Christian who wants another Christian to stop witnessing.
 

jhoosh43

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At the risk of derailing the thread, I don’t know how any Christian can not be pro-evangelizing. It’s not religious extremism, it’s a core belief and what God and Jesus Christ ask us to do. I can understand why that might bother some nonbelievers but I’ve literally never met a Christian who wants another Christian to stop witnessing.
Sorry I was wrong and used the wrong term. He’s a Christian fundamentalist.

Although there are plenty of Christians not classified as evangelicals.

I personally would like them to stop witnessing in many situations because it turns ppl away from faith. Oftentimes it’s performative and closed minded.
 

Franisdaman

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But he's better than most QBs we've recently had. That's kinda pathetic.
Almost ZERO offense vs the 3 P4 opponents we've played. He very rarely throws a clean ball. Usually too long, behind receiver, or too far in front of receiver. We got very lucky with bounces and penalties vs Mich on both possessions we actually scored on offense.

ESPN has him #9

 

Rambler Hawk

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ESPN has him #9

Thanks for posting - confirms that he a (literal) middle of road BT QB to this point...not great, but not as horrible as some make him out to be. He is definitely not in the same bottom of the barrel quad as Hill, Petras, and Padilla. I'd put him in the same quad as other former QBs like Sherman, McCann, and Vandenberg. Too lazy to compare stats though.😎
 
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