With the expanded playoffs is it time to use computer seeding?

[ClownBaby]

I noticed on the IHSA girls flag football page they are projecting seeds based off of computer rankings which don't go in order of best record. The expanded playoffs were supposed to help with scheduling but now teams are taking forfeits to help protect seeds, would a better system be to use wins and playoff points to determine the field then use computer rankings to build the brackets. It would incentivize teams to play tougher schedules knowing that a 4-5 schedule with high-quality wins and losses is worth more than 6-3 schedule with no quality wins.

Girls Flag Football Computer Seeding - IHSA

 

[sporthog_9er]

I believe volleyball is doing this too with maxpreps. Baseball and softball are supposed to follow soon. I think it is inevitable. Issue is making sure maxpreps is up to date (which isn't hard). It does take into account strength of schedule, which is a plus.

 

[1A Football Guy]

I noticed on the IHSA girls flag football page they are projecting seeds based off of computer rankings which don't go in order of best record. The expanded playoffs were supposed to help with scheduling but now teams are taking forfeits to help protect seeds, would a better system be to use wins and playoff points to determine the field then use computer rankings to build the brackets. It would incentivize teams to play tougher schedules knowing that a 4-5 schedule with high-quality wins and losses is worth more than 6-3 schedule with no quality wins.

Girls Flag Football Computer Seeding - IHSA

For the love of god USE HSRatings

 

[Cross Bones]

Terrible idea. A team would get more seeding credit for playing Lena Winslow than Benet.

 

[jha618]

I noticed on the IHSA girls flag football page they are projecting seeds based off of computer rankings which don't go in order of best record. The expanded playoffs were supposed to help with scheduling but now teams are taking forfeits to help protect seeds, would a better system be to use wins and playoff points to determine the field then use computer rankings to build the brackets. It would incentivize teams to play tougher schedules knowing that a 4-5 schedule with high-quality wins and losses is worth more than 6-3 schedule with no quality wins.

Girls Flag Football Computer Seeding - IHSA

I think they need to add some type of other metric to balance out the current system they use.

 

[PowerI66]

Much more data to use in those other sports

 

[AlabamaTimberwolf]

I noticed on the IHSA girls flag football page they are projecting seeds based off of computer rankings which don't go in order of best record. The expanded playoffs were supposed to help with scheduling but now teams are taking forfeits to help protect seeds, would a better system be to use wins and playoff points to determine the field then use computer rankings to build the brackets. It would incentivize teams to play tougher schedules knowing that a 4-5 schedule with high-quality wins and losses is worth more than 6-3 schedule with no quality wins.

Girls Flag Football Computer Seeding - IHSA

I shudder with flashbacks from the old BCS days in College football.... Computers are not perfect...

 

[SouthofI80Fan]

Once teams qualify, use an RPI rating system...(Wins x 1) + (Opponent Wins x .50) + (Defeated Opponent Wins x .75)

 

[SmallSchoolFan]

Once teams qualify, use an RPI rating system...(Wins x 1) + (Opponent Wins x .50) + (Defeated Opponent Wins x .75)

This doesnt fix closed conferences. The data points in RPI's only hold more value with more total games and against non-conference.

Similar argument with the current seeding process, ie. weak conferences with 9-0 teams and end up #1, and losing by 50+.

I'd argue more for strength of schedule, margin of victory, etc.. that are included in MaxPreps (which is also using Massey). There should be no historical component. New year, new data.

 

[Wassup13_rivals219252]

So many teams in the playoffs this year is making this playoff year just one big mess.