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Catastic5

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Pope is better than Billy Clyde by a country mile.

That said, neither one of them is UK material.
Worst part about Pope, which arguably makes him worse than Billy G, is that he is “good enough” to keep him for more than 3 years. At least we got rid of Billy after 2 years. How much must we suffer with Pope’s incompetence? 4 years? 5? I’d take 2 years of Billy G over 3 of Pope.

And for as much as Billy was awful off the court, we didn’t the amount of crap thrown on us like we are with Pope. Opposing fans treat him like freaking Tom Crean. It’s legitimately embarrassing that Pope is our coach. And Billy G was screwing coeds!

Do you know how embarrassing it is to get made fun of by BYU fans? Freaking lily white Mormons? When Mormons think your coach is freaking weird, he must be unusually weird.
 

ScWildcat3

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We didnt get made fun of like we are now. Im sure we did a little because we are UK and usually great while Billy G sucked....but I don't we were s national running joke. The pr Pope and Kentucky have had the last two years is terrible.

I bet when Billy G was the coach everyone knew when big blue madness was. Bet it was packed out and people were excited at least a little bit.
Yes we did. And what made it worse was losing to teams like Gardner Webb and bad.
 

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Sorry for all the misspelled words. Mods are doing their usual editing of my post. Im not going to keep going back and editing lol
 

DonAndy

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Worst part about Pope, which arguably makes him worse than Billy G, is that he is “good enough” to keep him for more than 3 years. At least we got rid of Billy after 2 years. How much must we suffer with Pope’s incompetence? 4 years? 5? I’d take 2 years of Billy G over 3 of Pope.

And for as much as Billy was awful off the court, we didn’t the amount of crap thrown on us like we are with Pope. Opposing fans treat him like freaking Tom Crean. It’s legitimately embarrassing that Pope is our coach. And Billy G was screwing coeds!

Do you know how embarrassing it is to get made fun of by BYU fans? Freaking lily white Mormons? When Mormons think your coach is freaking weird, he must be unusually weird.
✅️✅️✅️✅️
 

DonAndy

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Yes we did. And what made it worse was losing to teams like Gardner Webb and bad.
Thats fair. The level of embarrassment isn't even close to the same. Billy G was a hard headed drunk. Pope is a complete awkward strange character. The results on the court are trash for both.

Give me the drunk. Yall keep the Mormon lol
 

DonAndy

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The strength rating of your opponents is derived by the strength of their opponents and their actual results against those opponents. The SOS and SRS ratings I have given you would appropriately adjust to the actual results of the completed season.
So that means if you have the hardest strength of schedule to begin the season that could change in a case like Texas a%m being overated and us beating them im assuming

Or simply Our strength of schedule changes from what it was to begin the sesson. And If not strength of schedule is pointless to go by.
 
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DonAndy

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Pope is nowhere close to what Billy had us at. Also idk what his religion has to do with him.
So when Billy was the coach im sure we had some bad press for being a bad team. Im sure bad things were said. Im sure other fans rubbed it in. Im sure we got mad fun of.

With Pope we are getting completely laughed at nationally for reasons that have nothing to do with the lack of on court success. You can't see that?
 

ScWildcat3

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So when Billy was the coach im sure we had some bad press for being a bad team. Im sure bad things were said. Im sure other fans rubbed it in. Im sure we got mad fun of.

With Pope we are getting completely laughed at nationally for reasons that have nothing to do with the lack of on court success. You can't see that?
Do you read what you write before pressing reply. You weren’t around back then I can tell.
 

DonAndy

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Do you read what you write before pressing reply. You weren’t around back then I can tell.
Yea. And yea I was.

Billy banged coeds...he was a drunk. He lost to Gardner webb...anything else yall said.

None of that is embarrassing as Pope and his odd awkward strange demeanor that's making almost every high level recruit use us like a hooker in a wild west saloon like I said already.

What makes you think I didn't read? Do yall say stuff like that to avoid acknowledging what I said?
 

ScWildcat3

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Yea. And yea I was.

Billy banged coeds...he was a drunk. He lost to Gardner webb...anything else yall said.

None of that is embarrassing as Pope and his odd awkward strange demeanor that's making almost every high level recruit use us like a hooked in a wild west saloon like I said already.

What makes you think I didn't read? Do yall say stuff like that to avoid acknowledging what I said?
We were barely relevant enough to make fun of back then. And who cares what is said. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest. I just know we have done better under pope than Billy g. Not good enough but he has 1 more year to turn it around or he’s gone. I love this team and think we do very well this year. There are a lot of “awkward” coaches as you claim he is all because he’s Mormon apparently.
 
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DonAndy

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We were barely relevant enough to make fun of back then. And who cares what is said. It doesn’t affect me in the slightest. I just know we have done better under pope than Billy g. Not good enough but he has 1 more year to turn it around or he’s gone. I love this team and think we do very well this year. There are a lot of “awkward” coaches as you claim he is all because he’s Mormon apparently.
No its not because hes Mormon. I just said I'll take the drunk and yall can have the morman.

And I don't think you are bothered by what's being said I just didn't get why you asked if I read when I replied to what you said. I respect you being able to say your side without crying and yelling troll.

I was really just going back and forth with Paul. I know he hates me being able to go back and forth without attacking him like he does everyone.

In the end Billy G and Pope should never be able to coach for this sacred cloth that is beautiful.
 

Catastic5

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So when Billy was the coach im sure we had some bad press for being a bad team. Im sure bad things were said. Im sure other fans rubbed it in. Im sure we got mad fun of.

With Pope we are getting completely laughed at nationally for reasons that have nothing to do with the lack of on court success. You can't see that?
I always get this sneaking suspicion that Pope’s coaching peers don’t really respect him. A lot of them act weird towards Pope for some reason. Even freaking Dick Vitale who praises every coach under the sun with lavish exaggerations acts rather coldly towards Pope. I remember when he spent a whole broadcast going on a tangent over our alleged $22 million roster. It’s weird. I know we all can’t stand Vitale, but he’s usually quite complimentary towards Kentucky.

I kind of wonder if BYU fans accusations that Pope is a bit of a dickhead behind the scenes is true.
 
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DonAndy

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I would bet that neither of you two children are even uk fans. Just come over here to stir the pot. Doesnt appear that you know anything about basketball. Youboth need to be on ignore.
I'll post the newspaper i got in Lexington the day after Anthony Davis destroyed Arkansas. Was a picture of him on the front holding two basketball out showing his wingspan. It's signed by him.
 

BookofMormon

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I always get this sneaking suspicion that Pope’s coaching peers don’t really respect him. A lot of them act weird towards Pope for some reason. Even freaking Dick Vitale who praises every coach under the sun with lavish exaggerations acts rather coldly towards Pope. I remember when he spent a whole broadcast going on a tangent over our alleged $22 million roster. It’s weird. I know we all can’t stand Vitale, but he’s usually quite complimentary towards Kentucky.

I kind of wonder if BYU fans accusations that Pope is a bit of a dickhead behind the scenes is true.
Dukie V - did we know that Baby they pass around on their Midnight Madness is because of all. his "baby's" broadcasting? That guy is part of their entire empire.

 
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Which was total bullshi% . He threatened to sue the paper if they couldn't provide proof that he actually did that. Then ended up retracting the story and apologized. It came out later that the story originated from a rival school angry that Davis didn't go there.
The coach at Illinois was rumored to be the culprit of that accusation due to losing Davis to KY.
 
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Im The Village Idiot

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You are a big numbers guy. Those numbers from computers or random people don't reflect reality. Like hiw can you actually judge a strength of schedule? I guess the same way they have preseason polls and some teams they predict to ball out don't even make the tournament.

Like we went crazy about beating number nine on the road but two weeks later the entire country blows it off like aw well they actually aren't thay good. So is the strength of schedule really a point of argument when they rank them number nine then all of a sudden they are garbage?

Let's just go off of what we witnessed back then and what we are seeing today. You can't find a softer coach in college basketball than Pope.
Systems like SRS literally factor every single performance of every single game in the college basketball season. I’ll take that if I’m comparing results for sure. If you don’t like using SRS, you could also compare the amount of top 25 and top 10 teams each coached against during their tenures. You talk about wanting to just talk sports…just try being good faith for once. You don’t have to think Pope is the man to see Billy G was SIGNIFICANTLY worse. Just stop the nonsense. Opinions like that either expose you as not being able to parse history or bad faith. Either way, it isn’t good. This is simply a bad take.
 

BookofMormon

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They also have tons of former players in broadcasting.
Yeah, on ESPN alone their two big guys are Duke, Bilas & Williams. Seth Davis, Duke. It is quite the monopoly. You look at the other bluebloods, they have nothing in this department.

Greenburg is their third guy, I know he's up near ESPN and buddies with Hurley. The man that passed on Steph Curry, legendary.
 

DonAndy

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Systems like SRS literally factor every single performance of every single game in the college basketball season. I’ll take that if I’m comparing results for sure. If you don’t like using SRS, you could also compare the amount of top 25 and top 10 teams each coached against during their tenures. You talk about wanting to just talk sports…just try being good faith for once. You don’t have to think Pope is the man to see Billy G was SIGNIFICANTLY worse. Just stop the nonsense. Opinions like that either expose you as not being able to parse history or bad faith. Either way, it isn’t good. This is simply a bad take.
Nothing exposes anything. Im saying my opinion in the open. And its all about Pope and Billy G so what are you talking about
 

DonAndy

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Systems like SRS literally factor every single performance of every single game in the college basketball season. I’ll take that if I’m comparing results for sure. If you don’t like using SRS, you could also compare the amount of top 25 and top 10 teams each coached against during their tenures. You talk about wanting to just talk sports…just try being good faith for once. You don’t have to think Pope is the man to see Billy G was SIGNIFICANTLY worse. Just stop the nonsense. Opinions like that either expose you as not being able to parse history or bad faith. Either way, it isn’t good. This is simply a bad take.
Also im sure you see my post in other threads. It's all on topic with threads and positive. When Pope is the topic I will never speak positive. I will say my opinion. And it will be negative.

I promise im not a negative Nancy. Football wins a game let's celebrate. Anything good happens I don't turn it into a negative. It's not like I bring Pope up out of nowhere. I just reply to people.

Yall need to get on the dude that post Pope is terrible in every thread no matter the topic. Need to get on the people who start basketball threads right after a fun football win. I don't randomly bash Pope.
 

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I can easily see where it was not there when I quoted you in my reply. So long until your next account.
Anons, Andy’s and Pope derangement accounts all on ignore is
making the board clean. I just click on “show ignored content” the last time I check this board at night like I’m doing now to make sure I didn’t miss anything and then they all vanish again.
 

DonAndy

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Anons, Andy’s and Pope derangement accounts all on ignore is
making the board clean. I just click on “show ignored content” the last time I check this board at night like I’m doing now to make sure I didn’t miss anything and then they all vanish again.
Thats all anybody ever had to do that is as sensitive as yall. It's cracks me up when people make sure to let me know im on ignore. Like thanks for letting me know because I would have never known or gave two flying farts.. but again thanks for letting the board know. And Paul thanks for all the "don't feed Andy troll" when i post a simple take. Now take yalls broke back mountain selves to beautiful land where nobody go3s against anything you say. Go to Pope land lol.
 

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Sure feels that way. I understand recruiting isn't easy and theres a lot of factors in play, but I cant understand is how we can be so far behind when we are offering a top10 salary cap. Theres no reason for a school like VaTech or Rutgers or Baylor to battle with us for players.. the only reasonable explanation then, is that Mark Pope is just not good at this.

Im not saying we should just go land 5 guys in the top10.. but the bare minimum for Kentucky in this NIL era should be a top5 recruiting class. A good coach should be able to sleep walk his way to an elite class when he has UKs NIL money snd facilities backing him.

And if Pope cant do that (and hes clearly far off as of now), then what are we doing here?
The NIL stuff is such a black box, no one truly knows what is going on out there.

I'm not sure it's as easy as having the most coin. I think these kids at the top are making it an art form of getting their market value then taking it back to the school they want to play for. So then lot's of coaches bail on the HS stuff and leave their loot for the portal. There is a major de-emphasizing on HS recruiting, some coaches aren't even bothering. It's not as straight forward as you think.

I think what top schools are going to do is get their 1-2 guys, the save it for the portal.
 

KYFOSSIL

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Billy Gs team will do Popes team exactly like Georgia does them. Come on man Pope can't even beat Georgia. Can't even beat Bama one time out of how many?

I don't know for sure but im pretty sure Billy G beat them at least once. JUST ONCE
Thought you just forgot the victories over Duke and Gonzaga and that was Gonzaga in Washington by the way, and they own Tennessee. If you think Billie G is a better coach, you really need to self ban your dumb ***.
 

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The NIL stuff is such a black box, no one truly knows what is going on out there.

I'm not sure it's as easy as having the most coin. I think these kids at the top are making it an art form of getting their market value then taking it back to the school they want to play for. So then lot's of coaches bail on the HS stuff and leave their loot for the portal. There is a major de-emphasizing on HS recruiting, some coaches aren't even bothering. It's not as straight forward as you think.

I think what top schools are going to do is get their 1-2 guys, the save it for the portal.

Yeah i definitely think there are hurdles with NIL... but, guys like Hurley, Cal and Scheyer seem to get almost anyone they want. Guys like Oats isnt too far behind.

We have to be doing better than this. Doesnt have to be perfect, but we're putting out (apparantly) close to $20mil for rosters and were getting borderline NIT teams. I mean nothing about this roster makes me think were gonna do much. Who *could* make this roster work is someone like a Hurley or a Pitino who can do more with less. Their coaching, through their own strengths, is able to turn less-than rosters into something that just wins. And I havent seen that from Pope. Saw a bit of it year 1, but im starting to think that was a bit of a fluke... more about having like 7 fifth-year seniors who dont make many mistakes.
 
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