Washington

[Iron Doc]

Things didn't quite work out yesterday.
Things have been minutely dissected.
What's done is done.
With that said, does anyone care to move on to the Washington game?

 

[eyesofhawk]

Things didn't quite work out yesterday.
Things have been minutely dissected.
What's done is done.
With that said, does anyone care to move on to the Washington game?

The team has

 

[Driftless_Hawk]

IMO this game will define the season. I do not feel go about this game the way the offense has been lately.

If we win a special season is still on the table. If we lose, 8-4 or 7-5 is likely. There is a scenario where only wins left are Purdue and Illinois (6-6).

 

[HawkFan10]

going out west is never good for iowa...

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Things didn't quite work out yesterday.
Things have been minutely dissected.
What's done is done.
With that said, does anyone care to move on to the Washington game?

In

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

going out west is never good for iowa...

Many people keep saying this but the fact remains that history has nothing to do with this Friday.

 

[HawkinAZ]

Many people keep saying this but the fact remains that history has nothing to do with this Friday.

I think a big part of this is the game starts at 8pm Iowa time and will likely end around 11pm Iowa time. I assume as Iowa practices in the morning that many players are in bed before 11pm. I think this has a significant impact on their athletic ability.

 

[Lionhawk85]

going out west is never good for iowa...

Was driving home with my son after being at the OSU game/loss. Gave him the history education of what happens to Iowa when we go out west - saw the historical scores and goes “oh boy…”

Hoping the team can buck history and get the ship back on track this Friday! But definitely has a “I’ll believe it when I see it” feeling for me. Short week. Trip out west. Banged up team. Running game (and run defense for that matter) is MIA.

 

[r_desihawk]

when (if ever) has iowa won out west with a week (or in this case less than a week) turnaround?

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

L.J Phillips was back in action last weekend and to me, looked the best of all the RBs. He might be the difference maker this season for the running game and the offense.

 

[2D]

L.J Phillips was back in action last weekend and to me, looked the best of all the RBs. He might be the difference maker this season for the running game and the offense.

Wish he had gotten more snaps. Almost felt like he was on a snap count.

 

[Wobmam Rulez!]

Wish he had gotten more snaps. Almost felt like he was on a snap count.

Could be, just a test to see exactly where the ankle is.

 

[85Bears]

L.J Phillips was back in action last weekend and to me, looked the best of all the RBs. He might be the difference maker this season for the running game and the offense.

Next years back field of Jackson and Phillips , change of pace backs would be good. nearly This whole team returns

 

[PinkShizzle]

PJ Fleck and the Gophers just went out to Washington and won.

 

[AndreTheHawk]

PJ Fleck and the Gophers just went out to Washington and won.

They also had 7 sacks. Pressure helps, Iowa's D-Line doesn't provide it.

 

[eyesofhawk]

They also had 7 sacks. Pressure helps, Iowa's D-Line doesn't provide it.

Not necessarily.

Iowa just sacked OSU 4 times.

Chose not to pressure Underwood, as his legs were too dangerous.

That being said, Iowa may try to keep Williams in the pocket, as he can also be a dangerous runner.

But that will give the Hawks advantages elsewhere.

There are different ways to win. And it's nowhere near time to start questioning Iowa's defense

 

[Hawk1988]

Things didn't quite work out yesterday.
Things have been minutely dissected.
What's done is done.
With that said, does anyone care to move on to the Washington game?

Mobile qb and will complete passes because this D cannot cover a tree stump. Huskie D looks tough, so not going to score unless go back to the tipped ball completions. Friday night and long road trip, ole KF doesn't like those things. Plus, coming off a compelte *** kicking by OhioSt, and embarrassed in front the country and the Game Day dorks. Not looking good.

 

[eyesofhawk]

Mobile qb and will complete passes because this D cannot cover a tree stump. Huskie D looks tough, so not going to score unless go back to the tipped ball completions. Friday night and long road trip, ole KF doesn't like those things. Plus, coming off a compelte *** kicking by OhioSt, and embarrassed in front the country and the Game Day dorks. Not looking good.

I can promise you no one who got on the field for Iowa Saturday felt embarrassed

 

[Jonesy5960]

This is not a great Washington team that struggled to beat a bad Utah State team at home, and lost to Minnie at home as well. They won't look anything like the team that Iowa lost to this past weekend. However, they played USC tough this weekend and Iowa sucks on the West coast. It's a toss up in my mind as the line suggests.

 

[BigOHawk1]

Iowa will finally vanquish this west coast BS this weekend with Heck at the helm IMO. I think the OL will come out playing angry after seeing two monster DL's the past few weeks and more holes will be there. Not sure of Wash's run D but I think Iowa will have success there which of course will setup the pass.

There were a lot of open receivers in the game Sat vs OSU that were missed...if Heck can hit a few of those it's all the difference in the world. Gotta empty the tank here, get to 5-1 at the bye break (much needed) and everything is in front of you, including maybe a ranked NW, Minn and Nebr...

 

[DukeSlater]

I think a big part of this is the game starts at 8pm Iowa time and will likely end around 11pm Iowa time. I assume as Iowa practices in the morning that many players are in bed before 11pm. I think this has a significant impact on their athletic ability.

Maybe they should move practice to 7 or 8 pm Iowa time this week. It would make sense. But I'm not at all convinced that KF has that degree of adaptability in him. And the other coaches, including Lester and Parker, apparently have no influence or choose not to use it. But there's no debating something needs to change about how Iowa approaches the West Coast. They did take a 21-7 lead over USC at the half last year, only to be shut out in the second half in another close defeat.

Washington played poorly in their most recent visit to Iowa City. The Hawkeyes need to do whatever it takes to make sure they don't return the favor.

 

[DukeSlater]

L.J Phillips was back in action last weekend and to me, looked the best of all the RBs. He might be the difference maker this season for the running game and the offense.

Only if they give him the ball. Anybody who rushes for nearly 2,000 yards at any level must have some talent. I'd love to see LJ get at least 20 carries Friday night.

 

[DukeSlater]

They also had 7 sacks. Pressure helps, Iowa's D-Line doesn't provide it.

Which is why Phil needs to pick his spots and blitz more often. And by blitz I mean use a variety of blitz packages, not just send the house. Blitz a corner, blitz a LB, do what Hayden did and use a quick, fast guy at DE--maybe one of the Dbacks. Just like with the offense, sometimes you have to adjust to the personnel you have . . . or don't have. Phil's been great, but he hasn't been perfect, and I think his No. 1 fault is--like his boss--being TOO conservative. No QB is very good when they're running for their life. And almost every QB looks like a Hall of Famer when they can sit back there all day and wait for people to get open.

 

[eyesofhawk]

This is not a great Washington team that struggled to beat a bad Utah State team at home, and lost to Minnie at home as well. They won't look anything like the team that Iowa lost to this past weekend. However, they played USC tough this weekend and Iowa sucks on the West coast. It's a toss up in my mind as the line suggests.

The line suggests Wash is a 2.5 point favorite

 

[Iron Doc]

Iowa will finally vanquish this west coast BS this weekend with Heck at the helm IMO. I think the OL will come out playing angry after seeing two monster DL's the past few weeks and more holes will be there. Not sure of Wash's run D but I think Iowa will have success there which of course will setup the pass.

There were a lot of open receivers in the game Sat vs OSU that were missed...if Heck can hit a few of those it's all the difference in the world. Gotta empty the tank here, get to 5-1 at the bye break (much needed) and everything is in front of you, including maybe a ranked NW, Minn and Nebr...

Definitely want to see Heck rain destruction on the enemy out West.

 

[Driftless_Hawk]

We have probably the worst D Line in the conference. Unreal that this wasn’t addressed in the portal. We won’t be able to pressure Williams. O Line can’t run block which is a shocking disappointment.

pair this with probably worst QB in the conference and west coast trip I’m not feeling good. Hopefully I’m wrong but I just don’t see a W

 

[WeBeHerkin]

We have probably the worst D Line in the conference. Unreal that this wasn’t addressed in the portal. We won’t be able to pressure Williams. O Line can’t run block which is a shocking disappointment.

pair this with probably worst QB in the conference and west coast trip I’m not feeling good. Hopefully I’m wrong but I just don’t see a W

They need to play Joseph Anderson more.

 

[WeBeHerkin]

Could we get JJ Buchanan to transfer from Michigan mid-season? LOLZ

 

[BigOHawk1]

We have probably the worst D Line in the conference. Unreal that this wasn’t addressed in the portal. We won’t be able to pressure Williams. O Line can’t run block which is a shocking disappointment.

pair this with probably worst QB in the conference and west coast trip I’m not feeling good. Hopefully I’m wrong but I just don’t see a W

What we woudn't give for Hurkett and Mad Max right now...I know we tried in the portal and weren't willing to spend big bucks on a P5 DE, yet we rolled the dice on the young pups on DL maturing fast...let's take stock in Nov. yet we need more pressure with front 4 w/out blitzing...need more pressure obviously on Wash this weekend, what a massive, massive game for Iowa.

 

[PinkShizzle]

We have probably the worst D Line in the conference. Unreal that this wasn’t addressed in the portal.

They picked up a couple guys at DT, Stevenson and Olagbaju, but neither were even all-conference at the FCS level.

Brown had a lot of success at FCS Elon.

Overall, yeah, disappointing. They must have thought they'd be getting more out of Eppy and company.

 

[toddhawk]

I decided to look up when the last time was that Iowa defeated a West Coast team at their place in the regular season. Oct 5 1963 we went out to Washington and won 17-7. If you throw Arizona in, there were 2 wins in the 80s. That's it in the last 65 years. KFZ has never won out west on the road. With just the 2 Arizona wins, Hayden was not much better.

 

[DuddyB]

Iowa will finally vanquish this west coast BS this weekend with Heck at the helm IMO. I think the OL will come out playing angry after seeing two monster DL's the past few weeks and more holes will be there. Not sure of Wash's run D but I think Iowa will have success there which of course will setup the pass.

There were a lot of open receivers in the game Sat vs OSU that were missed...if Heck can hit a few of those it's all the difference in the world. Gotta empty the tank here, get to 5-1 at the bye break (much needed) and everything is in front of you, including maybe a ranked NW, Minn and Nebr...

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Washington also has a good defense.

 

[r_desihawk]

PJ Fleck and the Gophers just went out to Washington and won.

they pounded it successfully on the ground correct?

 

[DuddyB]

they pounded it successfully on the ground correct?

I wouldn’t say that. Only 125 yards rushing which seems like a monumental feat for Iowa at this point.

Looking at the box score it looks like their pass rush was difference as Minnesota sacked their quarterback seven times and forced their quarterback in the throwing two picks.

 

[The Big Z]

Maybe they should move practice to 7 or 8 pm Iowa time this week. It would make sense. But I'm not at all convinced that KF has that degree of adaptability in him. And the other coaches, including Lester and Parker, apparently have no influence or choose not to use it. But there's no debating something needs to change about how Iowa approaches the West Coast. They did take a 21-7 lead over USC at the half last year, only to be shut out in the second half in another close defeat.

Washington played poorly in their most recent visit to Iowa City. The Hawkeyes need to do whatever it takes to make sure they don't return the favor.

This. But aim sure Kirk will continue to do what he’s always done. This is a very winnable game if we play well. But we lost at a really really bad UCLA team not long ago. Our record is dismal on the West Coast. We should be up for any ideas that could help us win.

 

[Natchrlman2]

We have probably the worst D Line in the conference. Unreal that this wasn’t addressed in the portal. We won’t be able to pressure Williams. O Line can’t run block which is a shocking disappointment.

pair this with probably worst QB in the conference and west coast trip I’m not feeling good. Hopefully I’m wrong but I just don’t see a W

 

[The Big Z]

Which is why Phil needs to pick his spots and blitz more often. And by blitz I mean use a variety of blitz packages, not just send the house. Blitz a corner, blitz a LB, do what Hayden did and use a quick, fast guy at DE--maybe one of the Dbacks. Just like with the offense, sometimes you have to adjust to the personnel you have . . . or don't have. Phil's been great, but he hasn't been perfect, and I think his No. 1 fault is--like his boss--being TOO conservative. No QB is very good when they're running for their life. And almost every QB looks like a Hall of Famer when they can sit back there all day and wait for people to get open.

Phil just isn’t going to do that. We’ve got plenty of history to prove it.

 

[r_desihawk]

This. But aim sure Kirk will continue to do what he’s always done. This is a very winnable game if we play well. But we lost at a really really bad UCLA team not long ago. Our record is dismal on the West Coast. We should be up for any ideas that could help us win.

i have no scientific proof but our players look lethargic and a step slow in the second half when on the west coast. thinking of asu, az, ucla, usc games when i say that. and unfortunately it’s both offense and defense.

 

[PinkShizzle]

they pounded it successfully on the ground correct?

I didn't see the game, but the stat line was that Minny had 126 yards on 40 carries (3.2 YPC) and 1 TD.

Nothing crazy, but more than the Hawks had vs ISU, Michigan, and OSU.

 

[BigOHawk1]

i have no scientific proof but our players look lethargic and a step slow in the second half when on the west coast. thinking of asu, az, ucla, usc games when i say that. and unfortunately it’s both offense and defense.

We looked pretty good at USC for a good chunk but fell apart in 2nd half for some reason last year. Short week for both and it's not like we flying to South America as some make it out to be (3 hour flight and 2 hour timezone diff). Creatures of habit? Sure, playing on Friday still dumb IMO yet these are 18-22 kids in peak physical condition, we need to rally and figure it out and get out with a W any way we can. Maybe we are too young to know the diff or think too much, you just know KF will be all coy about the QB situation no matter how bad Hank is dinged.

Wash isn't going to prep any diff for either QB, just tell us who is starting and go from there. Get the damn running going again and give Heck the nod, sprain of throwing shoulder for any QB not a good look -- yet we rolled out CJ in a bowl game on 1 leg so we got that going for us..which is nice. KF despises QB discussion...ok....on to Wash let's go!