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[baltimorened]

I don't know if this is good or bad...but which of the parties has a campaign platform that addresses what IMO are the key issues facing us...immigration reform, healthcare, deficits and debt, inflation, prices of just about everything?

I guess it's still early...4 weeks to go, but it seems to me that our politicians are just dealing in generalities

 

[fatpiggy]

I don't know if this is good or bad...but which of the parties has a campaign platform that addresses what IMO are the key issues facing us...immigration reform, healthcare, deficits and debt, inflation, prices of just about everything?

I guess it's still early...4 weeks to go, but it seems to me that our politicians are just dealing in generalities

Not sure your point. When you have a divided government, what exactly can you do?


Immigration reform: clear Republican

Healthcare: slight Dem leans because they want to give you free things but Obamacare
Is a disaster.

Deficits and debt: neither party has an edge here. They both suck equally

Inflation: clear Republican

 

[baltimorened]

Not sure your point. When you have a divided government, what exactly can you do?


Immigration reform: clear Republican

Healthcare: slight Dem leans because they want to give you free things but Obamacare
Is a disaster.

Deficits and debt: neither party has an edge here. They both suck equally

Inflation: clear Republican

well my point is that nobody is running on a campaign of " we will propose a reform bill that does this or that"

Just an example, In Florida we have a governor candidate that is running (partially) on a platform that proposes setting up a sovereign fund to pay out hurricane costs there by saving $$ for residents....it may nor may not be a good idea but at least he's saying what he would do.

Just on affordability for example..candidates run on making things more affordable..but what does that mean? Democrats, or republicans, could propose ending tariffs, put a cap on credit card rates, propose some form of mortgage rates credit (note that I think any are good ideas). Same with healthcare...no proposals to fix what we know is a real problem for Americans...

The fact that Trump would veto everything is real. But democrats, or republicans, would be sitting the stage for 2028 platforms.

just some thoughts. Politicians just don't seem to be focusing on "real" problems....

don't forget, we had divided government the last time we balanced the budget. Parties can work together.

 

[fatpiggy]

well my point is that nobody is running on a campaign of " we will propose a reform bill that does this or that"

Just an example, In Florida we have a governor candidate that is running (partially) on a platform that proposes setting up a sovereign fund to pay out hurricane costs there by saving $$ for residents....it may nor may not be a good idea but at least he's saying what he would do.

Just on affordability for example..candidates run on making things more affordable..but what does that mean? Democrats, or republicans, could propose ending tariffs, put a cap on credit card rates, propose some form of mortgage rates credit (note that I think any are good ideas). Same with healthcare...no proposals to fix what we know is a real problem for Americans...

The fact that Trump would veto everything is real. But democrats, or republicans, would be sitting the stage for 2028 platforms.

just some thoughts. Politicians just don't seem to be focusing on "real" problems....

don't forget, we had divided government the last time we balanced the budget. Parties can work together.

Disagree again.

Trump was laser focused on inflation and immigration. They were the two biggest issues last election. You can't say, with a straight face, that nothing was done about immigration. Perhaps you should give Trump recognition for quickly and efficiently solving one of the two biggest issues in the election (within a couple months i might add).

Same with inflation. Inflation was much lower than the previous admin before the Iran war. Does the Iran war have overall inflation higher? Yes. Is that the whole story? Absolutely not. Trump has inflation in most categories below target. Trump is addressing the second biggest issue last election, and while it's not where we want it to be it is signifigantly better than where the previous admin was.

There are several other "real issues" that have been tackled as well. DEI is dying a slow death. Drug prices are down. Housing inflation has come down to almost 0%.

You point out Healthcare, yes that is a very tough issue that neither party has been able to make much progress on. Buffet and friends set out to "bend the cost of healthcare" but failed. So maybe there is an opportunity there for someone to come up with a grand plan that works. Will robotics be able to bend the curve of healthcare costs? What happens when in 3 years you can buy a robot for $30,000 that is better than any of your local doctors?

Maybe those aren't real issues to you, but they are to mainstream America.

 

[Gibbs6]

I don't know if this is good or bad...but which of the parties has a campaign platform that addresses what IMO are the key issues facing us...immigration reform, healthcare, deficits and debt, inflation, prices of just about everything?

I guess it's still early...4 weeks to go, but it seems to me that our politicians are just dealing in generalities

Does it make you happier if someone runs on one of these things and then it turns out that they don’t actually do what they said they were going to do? Or is it better when they both just crap on the other party?
I mean to me, both are a joke. I don’t understand how a politician can say they are going to accomplish xyz and then do nothing. They should be given 6-12 months to truly show they are addressing an issue they said they would change. If they fail, kick them out and bring in someone new.
Instead most get into office and coast until next election, then they often flip their narrative to the next thing Americans want to hear.
it’s a joke.

 

[scotchtiger]

Disagree again.

Trump was laser focused on inflation and immigration. They were the two biggest issues last election. You can't say, with a straight face, that nothing was done about immigration. Perhaps you should give Trump recognition for quickly and efficiently solving one of the two biggest issues in the election (within a couple months i might add).

Same with inflation. Inflation was much lower than the previous admin before the Iran war. Does the Iran war have overall inflation higher? Yes. Is that the whole story? Absolutely not. Trump has inflation in most categories below target. Trump is addressing the second biggest issue last election, and while it's not where we want it to be it is signifigantly better than where the previous admin was.

There are several other "real issues" that have been tackled as well. DEI is dying a slow death. Drug prices are down. Housing inflation has come down to almost 0%.

You point out Healthcare, yes that is a very tough issue that neither party has been able to make much progress on. Buffet and friends set out to "bend the cost of healthcare" but failed. So maybe there is an opportunity there for someone to come up with a grand plan that works. Will robotics be able to bend the curve of healthcare costs? What happens when in 3 years you can buy a robot for $30,000 that is better than any of your local doctors?

Maybe those aren't real issues to you, but they are to mainstream America.

Trump advanced on immigration and inflation, but made unforced errors with each that hurt optics and . The optics around ICE aren’t good and hurt the republicans with moderates. Broad tariffs were unnecessary and hurt inflation. The Iran war has seemed disorganized without a clear exit and hurt energy costs and inflation metrics.

All could have been avoided, aside from maybe the stuff with Iran. We just don’t know how real the nuclear threat actually was.

It’s typical Trump. Some good policy mixed with unforced errors mixed with abrasive messaging that turns off moderates.

 

[FLaw47]

I don't know if this is good or bad...but which of the parties has a campaign platform that addresses what IMO are the key issues facing us...immigration reform, healthcare, deficits and debt, inflation, prices of just about everything?

I guess it's still early...4 weeks to go, but it seems to me that our politicians are just dealing in generalities

Politicians will start running on hard policies as soon as voters stop punishing them from being specific. To be fair, you pot shot every single Democratic policy there is. What's the advantage to being specific?

 

[fatpiggy]

Trump advanced on immigration and inflation, but made unforced errors with each that hurt optics and . The optics around ICE aren’t good and hurt the republicans with moderates. Broad tariffs were unnecessary and hurt inflation. The Iran war has seemed disorganized without a clear exit and hurt energy costs and inflation metrics.

All could have been avoided, aside from maybe the stuff with Iran. We just don’t know how real the nuclear threat actually was.

It’s typical Trump. Some good policy mixed with unforced errors mixed with abrasive messaging that turns off moderates.

I agree there have been some unforced errors. You have to take the good with the bad though. I haven't seen a politician yet with a perfect platform or perfect execution.

Ned was making the claim that major issues are not being addressed and i just disagree. The issues where progress is possible have been addressed. We are left with the issues where progress will require compromise from people unwilling to compromise.

I'll give him healthcare though. He is correct from a healthcare perspective in that republicans don't really have a plan. Democrats had a plan, but the numbers show it didn't do much if anything to help. Healthcare is a tough issue that neither party has been able to solve. I'm not sure it will be solved politically, but maybe it can be helped with robotics and technology.

 

[fatpiggy]

Politicians will start running on hard policies as soon as voters stop punishing them from being specific. To be fair, you pot shot every single Democratic policy there is. What's the advantage to being specific?

This is a large part of why Trump won in 2016. He wouldn't stick to specifics and stuck to broad "Make America Great Again". Trump perfected the answer with no answer. He knew how to dominate headlines by saying outrageous things. He was an OG any news is good news guy.

Call him stupid or dumb or whatever the left wants, but he was and still is politically very savvy.