This is how Rutgers BEATS Indiana

kupuna133

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When I posted, I said the Iowa and Illinois numbers look wrong. These are estimates not actuals so they are not concrete. If the number was closer to what Wisconsin spent, it would be more credible.
Yea your 20 years of estimating experience ( whatever that means) lets you detect that Iowa and Illinois are low and Rutgers is high. Interesting you don’t have anyone else anywhere stating the same things. And comparing Iowa spending to wisconsins also shows your lack of understanding how many athletic departments run. Wisconsin has always spent considerably more than Illinois and Iowa. They have very different alumni base as well. Actually you have people saying Rutgers is low on that report. Rutgers estimates through internal reports is 25-30 mm. But yea. Keep trolling.
 
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Tell dump sh#t Al if he really believes this BS go to the Casino and put $1000 on Rutgers.
 

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Bro....stick to financial stuff....you're actually half-decent at that! Aussie Rules Football = Rugby w/a twist.

It doesn’t matter if it’s an old rule or new. Australian rules football is a totally different game. It’s closer to rugby than it is American football. I can’t believe you don’t know this.


I know this. I played rugby at Rutgers.

The Big Ten rule is clear: “any professional football league.” It doesn’t matter if the code is different - every professional football league uses a different code of rules, including XFL and Canadian Football League.

If the Big Ten wanted to exclude the Australian Football League, then the Big Ten could have done this simply by writing this exclusion in the new rule.

The rule also mandates the head coach be suspended. So if the Big Ten followed its own rules, Cignetti would been suspended after week one, banned from coaching duties for six games, and not on the sidelines tomorrow night.
 
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Yea your 20 years of estimating experience ( whatever that means) lets you detect that Iowa and Illinois are low and Rutgers is high. Interesting you don’t have anyone else anywhere stating the same things. And comparing Iowa spending to wisconsins also shows your lack of understanding how many athletic departments run. Wisconsin has always spent considerably more than Illinois and Iowa. They have very different alumni base as well. Actually you have people saying Rutgers is low on that report. Rutgers estimates through internal reports is 25-30 mm. But yea. Keep trolling.
Absolutely, and I’ll die on that hill. You don’t need to know how athletic departments run, to know when a number doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know much about how athletic departments run and I honestly don’t care.

If I cross reference transfer class ranking with supposedly NIL amount spent, you would find that Iowa spent less for a better class, when compared to Rutgers, which doesn’t make any sense, especially when Iowa landed better players. Then when you look at the quality of the transfer class, our numbers make sense, because we obviously scraped the bargain bin.

Wisconsin has an 80K seat stadium, which is why they bring in more revenue than Iowa and can spend more. Iowa has a ~70K seat stadium, so they bring in less revenue. And Rutgers has a roughly 53K seat stadium which it rarely fills, so we bring in the least amount of revenue. This is not rocket science. And if I use the numbers from the website, provided below, the logic holds because football is the biggest driver of AD revenue. For FY ‘25, Iowa brought in 137M of revenue, Wisconsin brought in 162M of revenue, and Rutgers brought in 105M of revenue. This is total AD revenue because football only revenue wasn’t available.


yes Schiano did a crappy job on he transfer class but he did the best he could with a limited budget. And despite all the constraints, we have a team that can play competitively.
 

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Absolutely, and I’ll die on that hill. You don’t need to know how athletic departments run, to know when a number doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know much about how athletic departments run and I honestly don’t care.

If I cross reference transfer class ranking with supposedly NIL amount spent, you would find that Iowa spent less for a better class, when compared to Rutgers, which doesn’t make any sense, especially when Iowa landed better players. Then when you look at the quality of the transfer class, our numbers make sense, because we obviously scraped the bargain bin.

Wisconsin has an 80K seat stadium, which is why they bring in more revenue than Iowa and can spend more. Iowa has a ~70K seat stadium, so they bring in less revenue. And Rutgers has a roughly 53K seat stadium which it rarely fills, so we bring in the least amount of revenue. This is not rocket science. And if I use the numbers from the website, provided below, the logic holds because football is the biggest driver of AD revenue. For FY ‘25, Iowa brought in 137M of revenue, Wisconsin brought in 162M of revenue, and Rutgers brought in 105M of revenue. This is total AD revenue because football only revenue wasn’t available.


yes Schiano did a crappy job on he transfer class but he

did the best he could with a limited budget. And despite all the constraints, we have a team that can play competitively.
Dude you’ve already died multiple times in this thread alone.
 
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I know this. I played rugby at Rutgers.

The Big Ten rule is clear: “any professional football league.” It doesn’t matter if the code is different - every professional football league uses a different code of rules, including XFL and Canadian Football League.

If the Big Ten wanted to exclude the Australian Football League, then the Big Ten could have done this simply by writing this exclusion in the new rule.

The rule also mandates the head coach be suspended. So if the Big Ten followed its own rules, Cignetti would been suspended after week one, banned from coaching duties for six games, and not on the sidelines tomorrow night.
Stop. Please.
 

AreYouNUTS

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Al - how many different threads have you pre-written based on the outcome of tomorrow night‘s game? I’m thinking you have one for the inevitable blowout, one for a game that sits right around the pointspread, one for a tight game (but a loss), and one for glorious victory??!!

Of course, 3 of those 4 posts will be filled with endless excuses, but I’m assuming variations of said excuses in each of those threads, correct?
 

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I know this. I played rugby at Rutgers.

The Big Ten rule is clear: “any professional football league.” It doesn’t matter if the code is different - every professional football league uses a different code of rules, including XFL and Canadian Football League.

If the Big Ten wanted to exclude the Australian Football League, then the Big Ten could have done this simply by writing this exclusion in the new rule.

The rule also mandates the head coach be suspended. So if the Big Ten followed its own rules, Cignetti would been suspended after week one, banned from coaching duties for six games, and not on the sidelines tomorrow night.
You are denser than Al at times. You just keep pushing what YOU WANT the rule to be not what the B1G intended when they wrote the rule.

So, if you're correct, why hasn't the B1G stepped in already? Oh yeah, because you're wrong again.
 

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NW is gonna roll us lol...seriously...20+ point loss. The playcalling is centuries ahead of ours our D won't be able to stop them.
💯 Really good coach and are definitely legit ! Good for them. We have toe worst coach in the BIG dragging us down. Tomorrow his last game.

Future is bright
 
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kupuna133

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I know this. I played rugby at Rutgers.

The Big Ten rule is clear: “any professional football league.” It doesn’t matter if the code is different - every professional football league uses a different code of rules, including XFL and Canadian Football League.

If the Big Ten wanted to exclude the Australian Football League, then the Big Ten could have done this simply by writing this exclusion in the new rule.

The rule also mandates the head coach be suspended. So if the Big Ten followed its own rules, Cignetti would been suspended after week one, banned from coaching duties for six games, and not on the sidelines tomorrow night.
Buddy you’re a smart guy. Do you really think the rule was installed to keep people that play other sports. Which Australian rules football is from playing college football? So do you think because we call what the rest of the world calls football soccer is going to keep someone from playing college football. Think about it logically. That wasn’t the intent of the rule.
 
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Buddy you’re a smart guy. Do you really think the rule was installed to keep people that play other sports. Which Australian rules football is from playing college football? So do you think because we call what the rest of the world calls football soccer is going to keep someone from playing college football. Think about it logically. That wasn’t the intent of the rule.
On the Round Table, he claimed Greg having his kids on the staff was corruption...lol. This guy stretches everything into absurd statements.
 

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Absolutely, and I’ll die on that hill. You don’t need to know how athletic departments run, to know when a number doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know much about how athletic departments run and I honestly don’t care.

If I cross reference transfer class ranking with supposedly NIL amount spent, you would find that Iowa spent less for a better class, when compared to Rutgers, which doesn’t make any sense, especially when Iowa landed better players. Then when you look at the quality of the transfer class, our numbers make sense, because we obviously scraped the bargain bin.

Wisconsin has an 80K seat stadium, which is why they bring in more revenue than Iowa and can spend more. Iowa has a ~70K seat stadium, so they bring in less revenue. And Rutgers has a roughly 53K seat stadium which it rarely fills, so we bring in the least amount of revenue. This is not rocket science. And if I use the numbers from the website, provided below, the logic holds because football is the biggest driver of AD revenue. For FY ‘25, Iowa brought in 137M of revenue, Wisconsin brought in 162M of revenue, and Rutgers brought in 105M of revenue. This is total AD revenue because football only revenue wasn’t available.


yes Schiano did a crappy job on he transfer class but he did the best he could with a limited budget. And despite all the constraints, we have a team that can play competitively.
“If I cross reference transfer class ranking with supposedly NIL amount spent, you would find that Iowa spent less for a better class, when compared to Rutgers, which doesn’t make any sense, especially when Iowa landed better players”

Makes complete sense! No one wants to play for Greggy. Why would any defensive player want to play for Greggy? Coming off the worst defense in the country and did not have a DC for the entire portal season. Fired the OL coach one of his best coordinators. No QB! So that’s why no one wanted to come here.
 
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Buddy you’re a smart guy. Do you really think the rule was installed to keep people that play other sports. Which Australian rules football is from playing college football? So do you think because we call what the rest of the world calls football soccer is going to keep someone from playing college football. Think about it logically. That wasn’t the intent of the rule.
Probably lousy drafting.

How that happened when faculty advisors representing the 18 schools made this rule and should have looked at it is odd. Tony Petitti, who has a Harvard law degree, should review rule changes too.

The included leagues and excluded leagues could have written into the rule. Why not reflect intent in the rule? Instead, the Big Ten issued a rule that by its plain obvious reading bans AFL pros.
 
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kupuna133

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Absolutely, and I’ll die on that hill. You don’t need to know how athletic departments run, to know when a number doesn’t make any sense. I don’t know much about how athletic departments run and I honestly don’t care.

If I cross reference transfer class ranking with supposedly NIL amount spent, you would find that Iowa spent less for a better class, when compared to Rutgers, which doesn’t make any sense, especially when Iowa landed better players. Then when you look at the quality of the transfer class, our numbers make sense, because we obviously scraped the bargain bin.

Wisconsin has an 80K seat stadium, which is why they bring in more revenue than Iowa and can spend more. Iowa has a ~70K seat stadium, so they bring in less revenue. And Rutgers has a roughly 53K seat stadium which it rarely fills, so we bring in the least amount of revenue. This is not rocket science. And if I use the numbers from the website, provided below, the logic holds because football is the biggest driver of AD revenue. For FY ‘25, Iowa brought in 137M of revenue, Wisconsin brought in 162M of revenue, and Rutgers brought in 105M of revenue. This is total AD revenue because football only revenue wasn’t available.


yes Schiano did a crappy job on he transfer class but he did the best he could with a limited budget. And despite all the constraints, we have a team that can play competitively.
You do know you’re contradicting your post that I responded to correct? You said Iowa spent the same amount as Wisconsin. I’m the one that said Wisconsin has always spent more than Iowa for the reasons you’re now citing why Wisconsin should outspend Iowa. Larger stadium wealthier state and alumni etc…You’re in your own spin cycle and you don’t know how to get out.
 

kupuna133

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Probably lousy drafting.

How that happened when faculty advisors representing the 18 schools made this rule and should have looked at it is odd. Tony Petitti, who has a Harvard law degree, should review rule changes too.

The included leagues and excluded leagues could have written into the rule. Why not reflect intent in the rule? Instead, the Big Ten issued a rule that by its plain obvious reading bans AFL pros.
No it doesn’t. That’s your interpretation. And it’s very wrong. I’m sure the rule as intended restricts players of the Australian American professional football league. Only if that league existed.
 

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So now you’re comparing our offensive line and their abilities to pass and run block, to Miami of last year? Do you not see how badly you spin to fit your own narratives?

Al, I beg you, get off the boards. This can’t be healthy for you. It really can’t.

Cigs it’s gonna take Greg behind the woodshed tomorrow night and teach him what professional college football coaching is all about. Sorry.
It’s such a forgone conclusion I’m in NB and getting on a flight before the game
 
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You do know you’re contradicting your post that I responded to correct? You said Iowa spent the same amount as Wisconsin. I’m the one that said Wisconsin has always spent more than Iowa for the reasons you’re now citing why Wisconsin should outspend Iowa. Larger stadium wealthier state and alumni etc…You’re in your own spin cycle and you don’t know how to get out.

this is exactly what I said, “. If the number was closer to what Wisconsin spent, it would be more credible.” Closer to what Wisconsin spent doesn’t mean the same as what Wisconsin spent. For example, if the gap is $10M, it should be $5M. Iowa spends more than Rutgers but less than Wisconsin.
 
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“If I cross reference transfer class ranking with supposedly NIL amount spent, you would find that Iowa spent less for a better class, when compared to Rutgers, which doesn’t make any sense, especially when Iowa landed better players”

Makes complete sense! No one wants to play for Greggy. Why would any defensive player want to play for Greggy? Coming off the worst defense in the country and did not have a DC for the entire portal season. Fired the OL coach one of his best coordinators. No QB! So that’s why no one wanted to come here.
Because Greggy has an NFL Pipeline. Look at Kyle Monangai’s success. Right now the most valuable asset we can offer prospective players is an opportunity to play. It sure isn’t NIL amounts, nice campus, or nice facilities. When kids come to Rutgers, they are choosing Greg because he is going to get the most out them. Everything else is secondary.
 

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this is exactly what I said, “. If the number was closer to what Wisconsin spent, it would be more credible.” Closer to what Wisconsin spent doesn’t mean the same as what Wisconsin spent. For example, if the gap is $10M, it should be $5M. Iowa spends more than Rutgers but less than Wisconsin.
Riiiiiggggghhhhhttttt!!!! If you meant that you would have said closer to what Michigan state or Maryland spent. You know “closer” to 5 mm more. Rather than Wisconsin that was 10mm.
Keep trolling Al.
 
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So now you’re comparing our offensive line and their abilities to pass and run block, to Miami of last year? Do you not see how badly you spin to fit your own narratives?

Al, I beg you, get off the boards. This can’t be healthy for you. It really can’t.

Cigs it’s gonna take Greg behind the woodshed tomorrow night and teach him what professional college football coaching is all about. Sorry.
Only because you’re clueless. I know Miami’s talent and Rutgers talent much better than you.
Miami’s talent is better, no doubt. But Rutgers talent is good enough to be effective.

So yes, We need to pass block and run block as well as Miami last year, to be successful. Our OL is getting better every game, and they proved against USC, which had superstar Wafle, that they could get the job done. Indianas line isn’t as talented as USC’s, which is why they have to blitz to bring pressure.

Let’s face it, should Rutgers Win, you’re afraid that all the nonsense about Schiano being fired and Kelly being hired, will have been for naught. That’s what’s really driving you here.
 
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Just as Hamlet had a single tragic flaw, and I honestly can’t remember what it was, so does Indiana. They can’t stop the passing game. Last week, Northwestern’s Aidan Chiles exploded for 293 passing yards and 2 touchdowns and no interceptions in a 29-23 loss to Indiana. Rutgers Dylan Lonergan was similarly productive against USC throwing for 252 yards and 3 TDS, but also had a dreadful 2 interceptions. One of which was a pick 6, which ended up being the difference in the game. Dylan will need to be productive and accurate, if we are to beat Indiana.

Getting back to the Northwestern- Indiana Game,
140 of those passing yards went to a single receiver, TE Luke Dehnicke. And it just so happens Rutgers has a similarly large receiver in 6’6” Korey Duff, who is currently putting up All American numbers, and is currently the #4 receiver in the country in terms of receiving yards with an average of 137.5 receiving yards per game. At his current pace , he will eclipse Kenny Britt’s school record of 1,371 receiving yards, and end up with 1,650 total. Thus Rutgers is uniquely qualified to exploit Indiana’s biggest weakness. Korey won’t have to do it alone. He will have help as Indiana will do its best to take away Korey, by shading coverage towards his side. Rutgers has ample complements. Slot Jourdain Houston is the #2 receiver on the year with 159 receiving yards. Ben Black has 127 receiving yards to go along with a TD. Reserve receivers could also have a big impact on the game. Elias Coke, who might replace Duff, when he leaves, had a nice 16 yard TD grab vs USC. Vernon Allen III also had a key TD grab against USC, of 28 yards. Antwan Raymond, who had 39 receiving yards against USC against USC, also figures to be a target against Indiana.

Unlike Northwestern, Rutgers passing game is nicely complemented by a powerful running game. Antwan Raymond, the #8 rusher in the country, has been averaging 109.5 rushing yards per game. He is nicely complemented by Clay Thevinin who seems to see significant action in short yardage situations. I would also expect to see freshman Aidan Gibson, a huge powerful back, who saw significant action against Howard.

The powerful passing game and running game helps Rutgers defeat Indiana straight up. I think the final toll is Rutgers 52 Indiana 49 in a high scoring game. You probably noticed I didn’t mention the defense. We’re not playing defense this year. Our way to victory is to score, score, score.
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