2027 US News Rankings: Rutgers #14 Public

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Let's try this again without all the nonsense.






Rutgers moved up to #14 public and down 2 spots overall nationally to #44.

NJ National University Rankings:
  • Princeton - #2
  • Rutgers -New Brunswick - #44
  • Stevens - #59
  • Rutgers -Newark - #73
  • NJIT - #85
  • Rutgers -Camden - #95
  • Montclair State - #156
  • Seton Hall - #156
  • Monmouth - #169
  • Rowan - #191
  • Kean - #317
Stevens had a big jump to 59 from 80.

Some methodology changes:




"Notably, U.S. News introduced a new Earnings by Major ranking factor. The metric evaluates graduate earnings four years post-graduation based on data from the U.S. Department of Education’s College Scorecard.

According to editors, the new benchmark evaluates the “true value” of a college degree and minimizes the influence of a student’s current family financial advantages.

Overall, the rankings’ “methodology heavily emphasizes student outcomes – which make up more than half of a school’s total score.” Nearly 1,700 institutions were evaluated. "


SHU tied with Montclair St and Stockton last year at 159, but Stockton reclassified to Regional while Monmouth reclassified the opposite way.

For NJ Regional Universities North:

TCNJ #5
Stockton #19
Ramapo #25
FDU Florham Park #32
St. Peter's #37
Rider #45
FDU Metro #62
Caldwell #81
William Patterson #89
Saint Elizabeth #98
Felician #116
Berkeley College #141-155
Thomas Edison? unranked
 

bigmatt718

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Does anyone know why there's never any "#1 Public in the Northeast" advertising? Is there a belief that UVA is in the Northeast? Are we trying not to offend the Cult etc? They advertised it with the MBA progra before.
The state of VA has never been, isn't, and never will be, part of the Northeast. So yeah, in all honesty, why RU does not market itself as Public Top Dog in the Northeast doesn't make sense.
 

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Does anyone know why there's never any "#1 Public in the Northeast" advertising? Is there a belief that UVA is in the Northeast? Are we trying not to offend the Cult etc? They advertised it with the MBA progra before.
our marketing of the school sucks

I have had a back and forth with Tate on this so we'll see what changes but he's aware
 

bigmatt718

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Totally agree. Even MD not sure it’s northeast. If you ask Marylanders how many say they live in the northeast?
Maryland is borderline and probably would elicit some intense arguments from Marylanders to say the least lol. They can go either Northeast or Mid-Atlantic depending on who you ask and what part of the state you ask them in.
 
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Maryland is borderline and probably would elicit some intense arguments from Marylanders to say the least lol. They can go either Northeast or Mid-Atlantic depending on who you ask and what part of the state you ask them in.
On the eastern shore they’d say they are southerners and people born and raised there say y’all, use mam/sir, and have a southern accent - but it’s infiltrated now with DC/Baltimore exiles and others more
North and it’s getting less this way all the time
 
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bigmatt718

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On the eastern shore they’d say they are southerners and people born and raised there say y’all, use mam/sir, and have a southern accent - but it’s infiltrated now with DC/Baltimore exiles and others more
North and it’s getting less this way all the time
Oh I know for sure. Been going to OCMD since I was a kid and yes, the Eastern Peninsula natives definitely align more Southern than Northeast/Mid Atlantic.
 

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This week, the Sewanhaka Long Island school district with five high schools held a college fair.

I reached out again to volunteer to rep Rutgers. Last year, I went through Rutgers and received no response. This year, I went through the school district and was pleased to learn Rutgers would be there.

However, when I contacted the Rutgers person, an employee at Rutgers, I received a response that I would need to undergo “training” to talk to Rutgers prospects with no suggestion how I could pursue the necessary training.
 

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Oh I know for sure. Been going to OCMD since I was a kid and yes, the Eastern Peninsula natives definitely align more Southern than Northeast/Mid Atlantic.
Sweet! My grandparents lived in Salisbury so went there and OCMD annually in the late 70s to the 90’s…saw it grow from a small provincial southern town to not much different than central Jersey.

amazingly slowe pace there back then - I’m sure I wouldn’t recognize the Rt13 corridor now.

OCMD was amazing then - the cabarets, the amusement area.

my sister went there a few years ago and said it’s gotten way to crowded and looked more like “Seaside (aka Sleasyside) NJ than OC.

great memories down there
 

AreYouNUTS

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The state of VA has never been, isn't, and never will be, part of the Northeast. So yeah, in all honesty, why RU does not market itself as Public Top Dog in the Northeast doesn't make sense.
Correct. It's considered a "Middle-Atlantic" state but def would never call it "northeast."
 

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Totally agree. Even MD not sure it’s northeast. If you ask Marylanders how many say they live in the northeast?
None. The Mason Dixon line runs above the state. The northerners think we are southerners and the southerners think we are yankees. Growing up in Maryland, it's an overwhelming majority would say they live in the south but aren't southern. And definitely don't live in the north.
 
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I'm 57 and lived in Maryland from 2nd grade through 9th; my mother was still there until she passed this year. I never met a single resident that would consider themselves part of the Northeast. And yes, the Eastern Shore was always quite southern, though perhaps slightly less than it used to be years ago.
 

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////Does anyone know why there's never any "#1 Public in the Northeast" advertising?

Good marketing idea. Rutgers, the # 1 Public university in the northeast US.

From what I've read the NE has a negative attitude toward public colleges that the rest of the country doesn't have. Maybe marketing as a top public backfires. Its no secret RU is public but maybe just go easy on yelling it out?

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"The elitist attitude toward public colleges in the Northeast is a deeply ingrained cultural phenomenon driven by historical legacy, socioeconomic stratification, and institutional density. Unlike the Midwest or West Coast, where massive state flagships like the University of Michigan or UC Berkeley hold massive regional pride and elite academic status, the Northeast has historically prioritized and gatekept prestige through its dense network of old, private institutions."

  • • Monopoly on Prestige: Because these private schools cornered the market on wealthy alumni networks, political influence, and academic reputation in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, state governments felt less historical pressure to build public "mega-universities".
    Late Public Evolution: Many major public universities in the Northeast became true public flagships relatively late. For example, Rutgers University did not fully become New Jersey's state university until 1945, and major SUNY campuses like Binghamton or Stony Brook were not developed until the 1950s.

    • Monopoly on Prestige: Because these private schools cornered the market on wealthy alumni networks, political influence, and academic reputation in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, state governments felt less historical pressure to build public "mega-universities".
    • Late Public Evolution: Many major public universities in the Northeast became true public flagships relatively late. For example, Rutgers University did not fully become New Jersey's state university until 1945, and major SUNY campuses like Binghamton or Stony Brook were not developed until the 1950s.

    2. Socioeconomic Class and "Status Games"

    The Northeast has a higher concentration of generational wealth and private preparatory schools than most other U.S. regions.

    Socialization over Education: In affluent Northeastern circles, a heavy social premium is placed on the selectivity of a college rather than just the quality of the education. As noted by cultural observers, there is an intense "status game" where attending a regional state school or a community college is sometimes falsely stereotyped as a compromise or a "safety" option.

  • The "State School" Stigma: Elitist rhetoric within elite private campuses sometimes colloquially weaponizes the term "state school" to belittle institutions that prioritize broad socioeconomic access over restrictive exclusivity.

    3. Structural Differences vs. Public Perception
    The elitist bias often masks the actual academic strength of Northeastern public universities, which are frequently overshadowed by a game of decimal points in national rankings.


    In reality, systems like the State University of New York (SUNY) prioritize localized accessibility over artificial exclusivity. Despite elitist perceptions, institutions like UConn, Rutgers University, UMass Amherst, and SUNY Binghamton consistently rank among the top public institutions in the nation and produce world-class research, tech executives, and political leaders.
 
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From what I've read the NE has a negative attitude toward public colleges that the rest of the country doesn't have. Maybe marketing as a top public backfires. Its no secret RU is public but maybe just go easy on yelling it out?

Gooogle AI

"The elitist attitude toward public colleges in the Northeast is a deeply ingrained cultural phenomenon driven by historical legacy, socioeconomic stratification, and institutional density. Unlike the Midwest or West Coast, where massive state flagships like the University of Michigan or UC Berkeley hold massive regional pride and elite academic status, the Northeast has historically prioritized and gatekept prestige through its dense network of old, private institutions."

  • • Monopoly on Prestige: Because these private schools cornered the market on wealthy alumni networks, political influence, and academic reputation in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, state governments felt less historical pressure to build public "mega-universities".
    Late Public Evolution: Many major public universities in the Northeast became true public flagships relatively late. For example, Rutgers University did not fully become New Jersey's state university until 1945, and major SUNY campuses like Binghamton or Stony Brook were not developed until the 1950s.

    • Monopoly on Prestige: Because these private schools cornered the market on wealthy alumni networks, political influence, and academic reputation in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, state governments felt less historical pressure to build public "mega-universities".
    • Late Public Evolution: Many major public universities in the Northeast became true public flagships relatively late. For example, Rutgers University did not fully become New Jersey's state university until 1945, and major SUNY campuses like Binghamton or Stony Brook were not developed until the 1950s.

    2. Socioeconomic Class and "Status Games"

    The Northeast has a higher concentration of generational wealth and private preparatory schools than most other U.S. regions.

    Socialization over Education: In affluent Northeastern circles, a heavy social premium is placed on the selectivity of a college rather than just the quality of the education. As noted by cultural observers, there is an intense "status game" where attending a regional state school or a community college is sometimes falsely stereotyped as a compromise or a "safety" option.

  • The "State School" Stigma: Elitist rhetoric within elite private campuses sometimes colloquially weaponizes the term "state school" to belittle institutions that prioritize broad socioeconomic access over restrictive exclusivity.

    3. Structural Differences vs. Public Perception
    The elitist bias often masks the actual academic strength of Northeastern public universities, which are frequently overshadowed by a game of decimal points in national rankings.


    In reality, systems like the State University of New York (SUNY) prioritize localized accessibility over artificial exclusivity. Despite elitist perceptions, institutions like UConn, Rutgers University, UMass Amherst, and SUNY Binghamton consistently rank among the top public institutions in the nation and produce world-class research, tech executives, and political leaders.
This notion of "keeping of with the Joneses" has been persistent in the Northeast for a very long time. Seems less prevalent in other regions we have lived in, but that experience is from a while ago, and my have changed. Also, in some areas, there is very strong state pride of the flagship public University which does not seem to exist in New Jersey for Rutgers. Maybe that will change some day. As for New York, they do not have a strong public option (there are some pretty good to fine SUNY schools), UConn-nope, Rhode Island-nope, Massachusets-a little better, and Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire-nope.
 
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Guys, even imagining everyone in MD considered it the Northeast...we're still ahead of them...

Generally speaking I think to most the Northeast is everything north of DC, by that definition, RU is in fact the #1 Public in the Northeast.
 

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This notion of "keeping of with the Joneses" has been persistent in the Northeast for a very long time. Seems less prevalent in other regions we have lived in, but that experience is from a while ago, and my have changed. Also, in some areas, there is very strong state pride of the flagship public University which does not seem to exist in New Jersey for Rutgers. Maybe that will change some day. As for New York, they do not have a strong public option (there are some pretty good to fine SUNY schools), UConn-nope, Rhode Island-nope, Massachusets-a little better, and Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire-nope.

Two other things to consider. The top Northeast privates literally had a CENTURY to build alumni networks and establish reputations before publics existed. And the fact is the best of them are solid academic institutions. Second, that gave publics in the rest of the country time to build those networks. My relatives in Ohio have great pride in their state schools. But who were OSU and Miami of Ohio competing against?
 

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Please share a pic/let us know what exit if possible.
First off, I believe it’s one of those video boards that swaps ads every 15 seconds or so, and I’m not taking my phone out while going 80 down the turnpike lol! Second, it may have been an MBA program sign I saw, on both the path and the turnpike, because I know I’ve seen those in the past, but I could’ve sworn I saw something about our public school ranking recently.

Hope that helps 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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First off, I believe it’s one of those video boards that swaps ads every 15 seconds or so, and I’m not taking my phone out while going 80 down the turnpike lol! Second, it may have been an MBA program sign I saw, on both the path and the turnpike, because I know I’ve seen those in the past, but I could’ve sworn I saw something about our public school ranking recently.

Hope that helps 🤷🏻‍♂️
80 mph?
Reported: 😜

 

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Sweet! My grandparents lived in Salisbury so went there and OCMD annually in the late 70s to the 90’s…saw it grow from a small provincial southern town to not much different than central Jersey.

amazingly slowe pace there back then - I’m sure I wouldn’t recognize the Rt13 corridor now.

OCMD was amazing then - the cabarets, the amusement area.

my sister went there a few years ago and said it’s gotten way to crowded and looked more like “Seaside (aka Sleasyside) NJ than OC.

great memories down there
Yeah OCMD isn't the same as it was in the 90s, sadly. Basically a MD equivalent of Seaside or Wildwood these days. Even the Delaware beach towns like Rehoboth are less quiet charm and more party environments these days. Need to go south to OBX if you want a more quiet beach environment. Or go after Labor Day as OCMD in Sept/Oct is gorgeous with peak blue crab season and the water still pretty warm in the 70s. Doesn't truly get cold down there until like close to Thanksgiving.
 

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Yeah OCMD isn't the same as it was in the 90s, sadly. Basically a MD equivalent of Seaside or Wildwood these days. Even the Delaware beach towns like Rehoboth are less quiet charm and more party environments these days. Need to go south to OBX if you want a more quiet beach environment. Or go after Labor Day as OCMD in Sept/Oct is gorgeous with peak blue crab season and the water still pretty warm in the 70s. Doesn't truly get cold down there until like close to Thanksgiving.
I’m in Greenville SC now so if we get to the beach it’s probably Charleston area
 
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Rutgers shouldn't run away from being the top public or hope it is confused as a private school. In most of the nation the flagship state U commands great respect and should run towards that being the norm and not away from it. Nothing is more embarrassing than people who somehow think its a positive that someone mistakes rutgers for an Ivy. Why is that good if someone thinks something about RU that is just incorrect? Top status needs to be embraced.
 

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Rutgers shouldn't run away from being the top public or hope it is confused as a private school. In most of the nation the flagship state U commands great respect and should run towards that being the norm and not away from it. Nothing is more embarrassing than people who somehow think its a positive that someone mistakes rutgers for an Ivy. Why is that good if someone thinks something about RU that is just incorrect? Top status needs to be embraced.
I see your point, but respectfully disagree. The reason for the confusion is that Rutgers is one of the nine original Colonial Colleges. Rutgers and William and Mary were the two later so-called "non-Ivy League colleges," with Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Penn, Princeton, Dartmouth and Brown making up the other nine. Rutgers and William and Mary went public, and these schools were not eligible to be part of the select group of private colleges that became know as the Ivy League.

By the way, the phrase "Ivy" to refer to the colleges, which later included Cornell was coined in 1933, and in that instance, also included Army. The term was more formalized in 1945.

Rutgers should use that to their advantage, and use in advertising something like- "Ivy Roots-Now a Public Ivy".

I would not shy away from the Ivy tags.


 
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This notion of "keeping of with the Joneses" has been persistent in the Northeast for a very long time. Seems less prevalent in other regions we have lived in, but that experience is from a while ago, and my have changed. Also, in some areas, there is very strong state pride of the flagship public University which does not seem to exist in New Jersey for Rutgers. Maybe that will change some day. As for New York, they do not have a strong public option (there are some pretty good to fine SUNY schools), UConn-nope, Rhode Island-nope, Massachusets-a little better, and Vermont, Maine and New Hampshire-nope.

I've read college trackers who say that out west it isn't as popular to ask "where did you go to college?" as it is in the NE. People just don't care quite as much. I like that because a lot of NE colleges have wrecked themselves and really don't deserve the bouquets that get tossed to them. Ivy culture grew out of WASP religious culture that has nothing to do with who they are now. Its easier to find a radical prof than a WASP.

SUNY is the largest public university system in the world with 64 campuses, 465k students and 88,000 faculty. The trick to SUNY is shopping by department because some have (say) great nursing, dance or architectural programs and some dont. If you cant get into your fist choice its easy to transfer after taking a few classes at another SUNY. The community colleges have been debased but take a class and transfer. The affordability is great and some locations are beautiful with many activities. You get to know real profs (not grad assistants) and they can have surprising connections. Obviously some careers are heavy on "prestige" and SUNY isn't known for that but corporate lawyers and investment bankers are often miserable with their prestigious slavish labor requirements.
 

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Yes Ivy roots but embarrassing to hope to mislead someone that RU is something its not.

It's a flagship state university and much to be proud of. Yes we have colonial roots but hoping to be confused with something different is more than cirnge to me.
 

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Yes Ivy roots but embarrassing to hope to mislead someone that RU is something its not.

It's a flagship state university and much to be proud of. Yes we have colonial roots but hoping to be confused with something different is more than cirnge to me.
But Rutgers is known as a Public Ivy, and nothing to be ashamed as that- it's a feather (or a leaf?) Rutgers should proudly wear in its cap.

 

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We can agree on public ivy moniker, although not sure we are there. (But that makes us aligned with Berkeley, UCLA UVA UNC etc and not small private 4k student schools.)

It's the "I hope someone thinks we are something we are not" that is embarrassing, especially when trotted out like a badge of honor.
 

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We can agree on public ivy moniker, although not sure we are there. (But that makes us aligned with Berkeley, UCLA UVA UNC etc and not small private 4k student schools.)

It's the "I hope someone thinks we are something we are not" that is embarrassing, especially when trotted out like a badge of honor.
Is anyone suggesting that at all?

Seems like everyone has been in agreement that advertising as the #1 Public in NE would be beneficial.

The NE douche crew that looks down on publics is not going to Rutgers anyway. It's not like they're swarming the place because they think it's an Ivy. They might be half-asleep, but I don't think they're in a full coma.

If anything, the idea of a "#1 public" might snap a few out of overpaying for lower tier privates versus a top-ranked school.
 
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People in the Northeast (NJ, NY, New England) seem to be overly pessimistic on their in-state public schools and too positive on out-of-state schools, relative to what the facts show.

Rutgers needs to put more effort into marketing in New York. Columbia advertises on the Long Island Rail Road, why not Rutgers which outperforms the SUNY schools on nearly every metric. This would reach 200,000 daily commuters mostly from high income families with college bound kids. Get Rutgers in front of people for whom Rutgers is a logical option but have historically overlooked Rutgers.

Another attribute Rutgers should market is the breadth of the course offering. My guess is it is #1 in the Northeast. A lot of kids enter college undecided on major and Rutgers’ broad range of majors makeit easier for them to discover what they find most interesting.
 

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People in the Northeast (NJ, NY, New England) seem to be overly pessimistic on their in-state public schools and too positive on out-of-state schools, relative to what the facts show.

Rutgers needs to put more effort into marketing in New York. Columbia advertises on the Long Island Rail Road, why not Rutgers which outperforms the SUNY schools on nearly every metric. This would reach 200,000 daily commuters mostly from high income families with college bound kids. Get Rutgers in front of people for whom Rutgers is a logical option but have historically overlooked Rutgers.

Another attribute Rutgers should market is the breadth of the course offering. My guess is it is #1 in the Northeast. A lot of kids enter college undecided on major and Rutgers’ broad range of majors makeit easier for them to discover what they find most interesting.
if you market it they will come
 

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First off, I believe it’s one of those video boards that swaps ads every 15 seconds or so, and I’m not taking my phone out while going 80 down the turnpike lol! Second, it may have been an MBA program sign I saw, on both the path and the turnpike, because I know I’ve seen those in the past, but I could’ve sworn I saw something about our public school ranking recently.

Hope that helps 🤷🏻‍♂️

The MBA program definitely has this that's why I am saying the undergrad should
 

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I see your point, but respectfully disagree. The reason for the confusion is that Rutgers is one of the nine original Colonial Colleges. Rutgers and William and Mary were the two later so-called "non-Ivy League colleges," with Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Penn, Princeton, Dartmouth and Brown making up the other nine. Rutgers and William and Mary went public, and these schools were not eligible to be part of the select group of private colleges that became know as the Ivy League.

By the way, the phrase "Ivy" to refer to the colleges, which later included Cornell was coined in 1933, and in that instance, also included Army. The term was more formalized in 1945.

Rutgers should use that to their advantage, and use in advertising something like- "Ivy Roots-Now a Public Ivy".

I would not shy away from the Ivy tags.



There is no doubt that we are confused as a private school in much of the country.

It is NJ parents, however, who would be under the deeply misguided perception that Cult or some other school is the #1 public in the Northeast and who need the reminder.
 
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