Senate passes Protect College Sports Act 77-22
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incase you were curios as to who would vote against it as I was:
Angela Alsobrooks, a Maryland Democrat
Richard Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat
Lisa Blunt Rochester, a Delaware Democrat
Cory Booker, a New Jersey Democrat
Tammy Duckworth, an Illinois Democrat
Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York Democrat
Tim Kaine, a Virginia Democrat
Mark Kelly, an Arizona Democrat
Andy Kim, a New Jersey Democrat
Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat
Jeff Merkley, an Oregon Democrat
Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat
Rand Paul, a Kentucky Republican
Jack Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat
Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent
Adam Schiff, a California Democrat
Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat
Rick Scott, a Florida Republican
Chris Van Hollen, a Maryland Democrat
Raphael Warnock, a Georgia Democrat
Elizabeth Warren, a Massachusetts Democrat
Sheldon Whitehouse, a Rhode Island Democrat
Angela Alsobrooks, a Maryland Democrat
Richard Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat
Lisa Blunt Rochester, a Delaware Democrat
Cory Booker, a New Jersey Democrat
Tammy Duckworth, an Illinois Democrat
Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York Democrat
Tim Kaine, a Virginia Democrat
Mark Kelly, an Arizona Democrat
Andy Kim, a New Jersey Democrat
Ed Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat
Jeff Merkley, an Oregon Democrat
Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat
Rand Paul, a Kentucky Republican
Jack Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat
Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent
Adam Schiff, a California Democrat
Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat
Rick Scott, a Florida Republican
Chris Van Hollen, a Maryland Democrat
Raphael Warnock, a Georgia Democrat
Elizabeth Warren, a Massachusetts Democrat
Sheldon Whitehouse, a Rhode Island Democrat
He probably thinks that Congress should not be involved. I agree.
reading the chatgpt overview, it seems like it is a good piece of legislation, and my opinion, is the NCAA should have already structured this correctly from the get go.....but the NCAA
Am I correct in thinking that the NIL needs a "salary cap?"
Am I correct in thinking that the NIL needs a "salary cap?"
Doesnt really do much to see who voted for or against something, without knowing why.
I just looked up Booker's reason, since he was a D1 athlete. Seems he wanted player input and more player benefit.
To be clear- I am not defending Booker's vote or comments below.
www.booker.senate.gov
I just looked up Booker's reason, since he was a D1 athlete. Seems he wanted player input and more player benefit.
To be clear- I am not defending Booker's vote or comments below.
Booker Takes to Senate Floor to Oppose the Protect College Sports Act | U.S. Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey
<p><strong>WASHINGTON. DC</strong> – Today, U.S. Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ), a former Division I college football player, took to the Senate floor to oppose the <em>Protect College Sports Act,</em> standing with college athletes and organizations including the <em>NAACP, Congressional Black...
www.booker.senate.gov
What about them? Things are already starting to solidify. NCAA is winning cases in regards to eligibility limits.
Not rocket science to see why the Dems vote against it, and Repubs vote for it. No big secret there.
But Booker is off base. If we were in the old system, I get his POV. But in this new era, players are fine. Just idiotic politics. Just shows that if you give an inch, they'll want 300 yards. Or more.
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and there comes the rub, with legislation passed it would basically disarm the local judiciary that plays favorite's and constantly enters restraining orders. (or should). One would have to admit that a clear set of rules would be much more beneficial to the game than a patchwork of rogue court decisions. As Barney Fife would say, "Nip it, Nip it in the bud"
This may sound like trolling or whatever, but it isnt.
I am not a rocket scientist- why did almost every Republican vote for it?
Because it puts a cap on player compensation, ie pro player, which is a certain general group.
Booker also wanted to put a cap on coaching compensation, which is a certain general group.
Textbook politics 101.
The "Activist" House??? I WISH they were activist, it is Congress' job to be activists on behalf of their constituents.
He thinks the conference expansion rules are bad for FSU and Miami.
I think if Congress does anything, it should be limited to NIL, and pooling of media rights.
You're not wrong, but really the whole structure needs to be re-worked.
True NIL deals from third parties unassociated with the university should not be capped. In this legislation, it is not intended to be capped, but they do cap legit NIL deals from booster owned businesses, which seems like an over reaction.
The money that comes directly from the schools should just be called a salary. It should be capped, but only via some form of collective bargaining.
Got a chuckle out of that comment, my first thought as well. Kinda where "activism" is supposed to be occurring. (but only stuff I agree with of course**)
100% agree, and shows why this whole deal is so stupid. In all honesty, the schools shouldn't be in this at all, outside some sort of stipend that every player would get. NIL should be on your own - completely. The NCAA should not be regulating that. And if they had just learned their lesson in the 80s, everything would be normal by now.
THEN, they doubled down, and started making money themselves off things like the video games. Which then triggered the Ed Obannon stuff, which then triggered rev-share.
You and I have argued over regulating NIL before, and there is no need to argue it again. I think they should try to prevent faux NIL deals, which are just a way for boosters to give money to players. That is basically what we have now. There is no perfect way to police it though.
I have zero sympathy for the NCAA, conferences and schools in this. For about 100 years they took advantage of the fact the young athletes had no other options. They failed to adapt, and now the fans are paying for it.
But this legislation puts the NCAA right back in charge, and strips away the only power the athletes had to advocate for themselves.
This group less Rand Paul "in his few sane moments" - my rule of thumb is that if they are against it, I am for it regardless of the subject.
In a perfect world I would agree, but in this case not... Congress getting involved is the ONLY way for there to be consistency across courts. Without this, you will continue to get whatever ruling a local judge decides to give. For instance, the Trinidad case.... No matter if you think he should be playing or not, that judge had a 45 minute written response prepared before he even heard the case. Booster judges should not be deciding NCAA eligibility. There has to be one set of rules, and sadly this is the only path to stopping rogue judges.
Seth Davis is the definition of liberal & is pumping the PCSA like crazy on the twitters. Find you a subject that Seth Davis & Ted Cruz both support and just get your A$$ on board.
This law also exempts the NCAA from antitrust lawsuits. With this law in place, the NCAA regains their governing power. But here is the thing. The NCAA is more like an HOA. They want the colleges and universities to help them set forth the rules to live by and then help them police each other, 134 separate “homeowners” making sure their neighbors are playing by the same rules.
on the other hand, the ones against this rule want to make the NCAA 1 corporation with 134 satellite offices, making the Coaches and Players employees, with employee protections and benefits without having to pay taxes. Labor doesn’t work that way in the US. Everybody is responsible to pay taxes who are at a certain level of income. The opponents want the players to be able to unionize as well, giving them more power to determine working conditions, salaries, bonuses, raises, and benefits. The NCAA wants no part of that!!!
on the other hand, the ones against this rule want to make the NCAA 1 corporation with 134 satellite offices, making the Coaches and Players employees, with employee protections and benefits without having to pay taxes. Labor doesn’t work that way in the US. Everybody is responsible to pay taxes who are at a certain level of income. The opponents want the players to be able to unionize as well, giving them more power to determine working conditions, salaries, bonuses, raises, and benefits. The NCAA wants no part of that!!!
And therein lies the rub.....an HOA is only as good as the homeowners. When the homeowners war with each other, the HOA is useless. The reason why the NCAA prevailed in the LSU thing was because 99% of the homeowners agreed on eligibility.
That could have happened a long time ago, on a number of different issues. But it didn't, and we are where we are.
I don't want that. I want the third option. Just keep it the way it is. 20M rev share. 5 to play 5. And move on.
Who isn't paying taxes? The players are paying taxes on their earnings, less whatever they can deduct for reasonable education expenses, etc. The coaches are obviously paying taxes.
The NCAA and the member institutions are tax-exempt non-profits, even though the NCAA generates over $1.3 Billion per year in revenue. The more money that shifts from the universities to the players, the more taxes are paid.
You are right, the NCAA wants no part of letting the players be involved in the decisions that affect them. They want the totalitarian control they have had for over 100 years. Collective bargaining may not be the right answer, but the players deserve some say in how they are treated economically, and this statute completely strips that away.
And once the statute is in place, it isn't changing. Sure, it COULD be changed, but that's what they said about the Healthcare Act, too.
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