Who would you want as PSU AD?

BobPSU92

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We often discuss the right football coach for PSU. How about AD? You wake up tomorrow morning and Kraft has gone ”Poof!” Vanished without a trace. Who do you want to replace him?

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We often discuss the right football coach for PSU. How about AD? You wake up tomorrow morning and Kraft has gone ”Poof!” Vanished without a trace. Who do you want to replace him?

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Does anyone think Kraft does anything anyway? He's the mouthpiece and future scapegoat of the athletics program. He runs nothing and decides nothing without his boss's approval. Him being gone does nothing.

I'd add his handling of CJF and the new hire last year is enough to can him now. First, he shouldn't have fired him when he did, especially without a plan (though I assume Rhule was the guy until fans revolted). Second, he shouldn't have allowed a bunch of Franklin's buddies stay on the staff and continue to recruit for Franklin. Third, if he was going to fire Franklin mid-season he should have named Smith the HC going forward and then worked on negotiating with someone who could come in no strings attached. As it stands, Campbell fell into his lap after we were publicly embarrassed by the Crumbl Cookie Empire and Mormons.
 
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Success leaves clues. Step 1 ID the 5 most successful (without cheating, which leaves UM out) Athletic Departments in football and men’s basketball. Step 2 either hire that AD, or his/hers number 1 deputy. Step 3, organize and right-size the Athletic Department for the following 2 objectives: an NC in football, and a Big Ten titles in men’s basketball. Step 4 hire a big time charity’s best fund raiser to lead our NIL efforts. Doesn’t matter what the charity does, get their best fundraiser. Step 5 Solicit billionaires - would you, Mr. Billionaire like to be PSUs Nike? Indiana‘s Mark Cuban? What would you like in return? A think tank or a building named after you? A seat on our Board of Governors? Name it, it’s yours.

Sounds like PSU is almost prostituting itself for athletic glory in 2 sports? Yup, and it’s exactly what is necessary to be successful in those two sports.
 
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a combination of Lane Kiffin, Barry Switzer, Jerry Jones and pick any Michigan scumbag from the last 30 years

that's what cfb is all about now so hey PSU get with it -- buy some kids and start winnin!
 
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a combination of Lane Kiffin, Barry Switzer, Jerry Jones and pick any Michigan scumbag from the last 30 years

that's what cfb is all about now so hey PSU get with it -- buy some kids and start winnin!
Juck Ferry Jones and everyone associated to that bag of diicks!!
 
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Does anyone think Kraft does anything anyway? He's the mouthpiece and future scapegoat of the athletics program. He runs nothing and decides nothing without his boss's approval. Him being gone does nothing.

I'd add his handling of CJF and the new hire last year is enough to can him now. First, he shouldn't have fired him when he did, especially without a plan (though I assume Rhule was the guy until fans revolted). Second, he shouldn't have allowed a bunch of Franklin's buddies stay on the staff and continue to recruit for Franklin. Third, if he was going to fire Franklin mid-season he should have named Smith the HC going forward and then worked on negotiating with someone who could come in no strings attached. As it stands, Campbell fell into his lap after we were publicly embarrassed by the Crumbl Cookie Empire and Mormons.
Of course he "does things" He runs that department.
No one else does. Do you think Neeli runs it?

That said:
You certainly wouldn't lose anything (of value) if he is gone.

What would you gain?
1) $3 Million+ per year (his comp - which, this coming year, will include an additional $1 million BONUS, for spending $700 M plus on the stadium)

2) Several million more per year in wasted payroll on all his buddies.

3) You gain by losing someone who entered into ****** deals with Elevate, Adidas, Playfly, et al. It is going to take a long time to unwind some of those deals - but the sooner you stop the bleeding, the better.

4) You gain by losing the guy who oversaw the NIL fiasco of the last several years (who is even in charge right now?). That has to be a plus.

5) You gain by losing the guy who has had 5 major sports coach hires in his career - all of them disasters (the jury is still out on Campbell, of course)

6) And, of course, you gain by losing a guy who has overseen a department that is allergic to being honest. Which can't be a bad thing - right?
 
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BobPSU92

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Of course he "does things" He runs that department.
No one else does. Do you think Neeli runs it?

That said:
You certainly wouldn't lose anything (of value) if he is gone.

What would you gain?
1) $3 Million+ per year (his comp - which, this coming year, will include an additional $1 million BONUS, for spending $700 M plus on the stadium)

2) Several million more per year in wasted payroll on all his buddies.

3) You gain by losing someone who entered into ****** deals with Elevate, Adidas, Playfly, et al. It is going to take a long time to unwind some of those deals - but the sooner you stop the bleeding, the better.

4) You gain by losing the guy who oversaw the NIL fiasco of the last several years (who is even in charge right now?). That has to be a plus.

5) You gain by losing the guy who has had 5 major sports coach hires in his career - all of them disasters (the jury is still out on Campbell, of course)

6) And, of course, you gain by losing a guy who has overseen a department that is allergic to being honest. Which can't be a bad thing - right?

His successor would be paid very well and would have a huge staff. That’s big-time college athletics today and The Penn State Way. Maybe we would get someone better, but I’m quite certain that we wouldn’t save cash money.

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His successor would be paid very well and would have a huge staff. That’s big-time college athletics today and The Penn State Way. Maybe we would get someone better, but I’m quite certain that we wouldn’t save cash money.

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LOL I was just talking about what you gain by getting rid of him.

If you REPLACE him, with someone competent, you probably gain a lot more :). Of course, that's a big IF with PSU's track record on high-profile hires.

FWIW, PK will be the highest paid AD in the nation this year (unless some other guy gets a huge bonus for something in his contract - the guy at UT - DelConte or something like that - is second)
Getting rid of the "BC Posse" would also be a plus. I really don't know what some of those guys do. Not sure if they do either.
 

BobPSU92

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LOL I was just talking about what you gain by getting rid of him.

If you REPLACE him, with someone competent, you probably gain a lot more :). Of course, that's a big IF with PSU's track record on high-profile hires.

FWIW, PK will be the highest paid AD in the nation this year (unless some other guy gets a huge bonus for something in his contract - the guy at UT - DelConte or something like that - is second)
Getting rid of the "BC Posse" would also be a plus. I really don't know what some of those guys do. Not sure if they do either.

If PSU sh|tcans Kraft, other “schools” may lock up their ADs with high-dollar extensions. It happened with a few coaches last year when Franklin was sh|tcanned.

In any case, if Kraft were sh|tcanned, no doubt PSU would hire someone for at least the same dollar figure. PSU ain’t saving money in sports.
 
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If PSU sh|tcans Kraft, other “schools” may lock up their ADs with high-dollar extensions. It happened with a few coaches last year when Franklin was sh|tcanned.

In any case, if Kraft were sh|tcanned, no doubt PSU would hire someone for at least the same dollar figure. PSU ain’t saving money in sports.
They would likely do something that stupid. I agree.

It is a tradition and culture at PSU now.
You measure the quality of your decision by how much you waste invest :)
 

BobPSU92

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They would likely do something that stupid. I agree.

It is a tradition and culture at PSU now.
You measure the quality of your decision by how much you waste invest :)

Anything worth doing is worth doing bigly.

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Anyone who would hire Urban Meyer, which is what should have happened last year.

When Kraft whiffed on Meyer and then couldn't get his ole buddy Rhule to come back to his alma mater, I had concerns about Kraft. I confess that I glossed over that, at the time, being thrilled with Kraft canning Franklin. Whatever happens, at least Kraft did one thing right!
 

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Anyone who would hire Urban Meyer, which is what should have happened last year.

When Kraft whiffed on Meyer and then couldn't get his ole buddy Rhule to come back to his alma mater, I had concerns about Kraft. I confess that I glossed over that, at the time, being thrilled with Kraft canning Franklin. Whatever happens, at least Kraft did one thing right!
It wasn't that Kraft couldn't get Rhule though Rhule did parlay that into an extension Kraft was told no. While Kraft kept working the Rhule hire it really ended up being no. As in not enough board support for the hire. That's when the search hit panic mode because there was no other plan.
 

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It wasn't that Kraft couldn't get Rhule though Rhule did parlay that into an extension Kraft was told no. While Kraft kept working the Rhule hire it really ended up being no. As in not enough board support for the hire. That's when the search hit panic mode because there was no other plan.
Assuming that’s true he still screwed the pooch by not getting pre-approval. He had no succession plan and has done far more harm to the program than Franklin did (and I understand his firing).
 
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Assuming that’s true he still screwed the pooch by not getting pre-approval. He had no succession plan and has done far more harm to the program than Franklin did (and I understand his firing).
While I have reached a point where I never alibi for Franklin you are correct.

Moving forward Franklin should be placed in the history books and left there. This is no longer his team nothing anyone says about that changes our current situation and at best is a distraction and wasted energy. Kraft is another issue entirely and IMO only he is fair game.
 
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