An actual example of a deep out was Kmet’s TD catch against Carolina. The ball was thrown on a line over 30 yards between 2 defenders. You can’t call that play with Bagent at QB. He’s not capable of making that throw. He simply does not have the arm strength.
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Just watched a few replays and that pass was great due to its placement. It was dropped in a bucket not on a line. I'm fairly confident Bagent can throw the ball 30 yards in the air.
1. Bagent doesn’t have Caleb’s arm.
2. That doesn’t mean he can’t be good while he’s starting.
They can both exsist.
2. That doesn’t mean he can’t be good while he’s starting.
They can both exsist.
Exactly. I’m also not saying he won’t be effective. I’m saying he can’t make all the throws Caleb can make. Doesn’t mean he can’t get the job done.
Not sure why this seems so difficult to accept.
I like him but he seems to do well in pre season but ***** the bed in real time
Based on what? Four games he started as a rookie he went 2-2 which is pretty damn impressive when you consider he was playing d2 ball 8mo prior.
I find it interesting that last year Loveland was brought along very slowly but two games in Roush seems to have a much larger role....and it is not going well so far.
Tom Pellissero is reporting Caleb avoided any major injury to his hammy and Bears are not ruling him out for Eagles. Which they shouldn't until they have to. I doubt he plays for a few weeks but sounds positive for sure.
Sounds like it's going to be a nagging injury all year and we shouldn't expect as much scrambling.
Ya, that certainly takes away a major threat in his arsenal, especially with a leaky OL at times.
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Two separate plays Caleb drops back, steps up in pocket, makes correct read, throws a good ball and Roush drops it. The one near end zone wasn’t easy but you make that catch in NFL….but something something hero ball all day. He will adjust when he comes back, I’m more worried about the scramble for first down than the avoiding pressure and turning it into a big play. He’s gotten much better at seeing a lane and taking the first down from beginning of last year to now. I’ll also add, many times when Caleb is scrambling away from pressure keeping plays alive he ends up throwing ball away instead of the infamous hero ball or taking a loss. This is another aspect which he has improved upon.
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Bagent in concussion protocol. Looking like Keenum could start on Monday. Can't make this stuff up.
The biggest is accuracy on the gimmies, but you know that. Don't have enough data this year to really say if he improved on that or not.
Every QB in the NFL is always trying to improve his awareness and reads, no matter who you are. Teams try to throw new things at you to confuse. Caleb is no different that he can improve in that department. If you watched closely last week he went through his progression, when he could, and had to check down cause no one was open for whatever reason. But that seems to be left out.
With a QB like Williams, OC/HC walk a fine line in reining him in but also letting him do the things he does that are special. He made a garbage throw/decision on the pick, it happens. The thing is, that doesn't happen all that often. Sometimes you have to live with a little of the bad to get the things only a few can do in NFL.
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His HC pointed out that was the main focus of improvement over the offseason.
Did you not read the part where I said he needs to improve on awareness and reads.
I've now watched the all-22 2x. Below is my frustration with Caleb. He hits his back football and Rome and Roush are both open but he doesn't pull the trigger. It turns into hero ball and he runs around and finds Rome for a 15 yard gain.
Verses....Bagent hit his back foot and gets the ball to his #1 read on time with great anticipation.
Verses....Bagent hit his back foot and gets the ball to his #1 read on time with great anticipation.
That means absolutly nothing to me. I could dig up screen shots of any QB in the history of the NFL and find the exact same thing. This happens every year on twitter. People post screen shots and they have no idea of the progression etc...You are cherry picking screen shots to prove your point that you think Bagent is better. And before you say anything you said "If Caleb ever goes down - Bagent ain’t giving the spot back".
It's a tired argument. Maybe we will see this week maybe we won't, Bagent is in concussion protocol.
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Well, I know the progressions on the plays provided. NVM, what's the point...
Hope Bagent gets the opportunity to show what he's got for a few weeks.
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I know progressions as well and this isn't about who knows more or has what coaching background. But screen shots don't tell the whole story all the time and I know you know this.
I hope Bagent crushes it, seriously.
I know they don’t but it’s the best available unless everyone has a subscription to the all-22.
My main point is that Bagent plays in the structure of the offense better than Caleb. I’ll argue that as long as anyone wants. Caleb plays better than any QB ever in the history of the game outside of the structure of the offense.
I’ll let it rest.
Don't worry there is a Manning on the way from Texas to help the Bears out next year.
Bradbury looked like a problem for the Bears last week with 4 penalties.
Do you keep Bradbury vs the Eagles or introduce Logan Jones to Jalen Carter?
Do you keep Bradbury vs the Eagles or introduce Logan Jones to Jalen Carter?
Iowa produces great TE and Lineman so I'm sure Jones is going to be great but Bradbury is a Vet, backup QB, give him another chance, don't throw Jones to the wolves just yet. But Bradbury leash is short
You answered your own question.
No, but Bradbury is on a short leash. Ideally I think they would like to make a change like that with the bye week but that isn't until week 10.
Is Caleb out for the year or was it a grade 1 hamstring strain (aka, paper cut)?
We knew what we thought he was from college.
We knew what we thought he was from college.
Cmon man…this board doesn’t question Caleb. He’s on the “do not discuss list” that Providence admin is on. You’re gonna get this
This is my first post on the game 09/20/2026. First of all, it doesn't matter who the QB is on Monday. The Bears are not beating the Eagles. No reason to play an injured Williams. I know. I know. On any given Sunday...I mean Monday. Too many excuses were made about the weather and rain. Both teams had the same field and weather. One team won and one didn't. I don't remember people complaining about the rain when the Bears beat SF on opening day 2022 and that weather and rain was much worse than last Sunday.
OK, the Bears were awful in every phase. It happens. I think the Bears will lose 2 of their next 3 games with the Jets being the victory.
But I have to tell you Wassup. Before I got the chance to post today, I KNEW I would see a post from you just like this. We all know you hate the guy. Some guys have a higher threshold of pain than others. Take a look at the video of the Achilles injury Aaron Rodgers suffered and his reaction, now that we know how serious it was. I didn't think it was that serious when it happened based on his reaction to it.
Then when I saw Williams go down I thought it could be a season ending injury based on his reaction. I am thrilled to know I was wrong. I don't ever want to see anyone get hurt. But some guys handle injury differently than others. That is all I will say.
I think this is a good quote from Max Crosby, "I've had one hammy thing a while back. That will freak you out when it first happens." He added that Williams may have thought, "Something really bad just happened," before knowing the actual diagnosis."
