Iran blockade by US to blockade the Iran blockade?

LafayetteBear

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that, on it's face, would make sense economically. The question though is how much capacity from other oil producing countries is available to fill the void. I have no idea, but I'd think trump does.

90% of iran's oil goes to China...and, according to reports, the Chinese pay a below market rate for this oil. If they have to go on the market and pay normal rates, it would have a significant impact on their economy.
Wouldn't you think that a country the size of China would have crude oil deposits somewhere within their own borders? Perhaps they do, but I have never heard that they produce crude oil, or natural gas, in any significant quantities.
 

hawkeyetraveler

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Wouldn't you think that a country the size of China would have crude oil deposits somewhere within their own borders? Perhaps they do, but I have never heard that they produce crude oil, or natural gas, in any significant quantities.
If they did they would be exploiting it. Consider how bad they f*cked up their environment from coal for example. Occam’s Razor suggests they don’t have such deposits.
 

RockyMtNole

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Why does anyone even listen to this bullsh*tter anymore?


U.S. President Donald Trump on Tuesday announced a reversal of plans to charge a 20% toll on cargo going through the Strait of Hormuz, saying that Middle Eastern countries will instead make investment and trade deals with the U.S.


“Based on highly productive conversations with Middle East leadership, I have decided to replace the 20% United States Reimbursement Fee with Trade and Investment Deals that the various Gulf States will be making into the United States,” Trump said on social media.


The president said the investments “will be MASSIVE,” though it’s unclear if these would be new commitments relative to what Trump announced after a visit last year to the Middle East.
 

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President Donald Trump backed away from his plan to impose a 20% charge on cargo shipments through the Strait of Hormuz after US allies in the Gulf urged him to drop it.
 
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r_desihawk

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shouldn’t a lot of countries be really pissed off at iran for shooting at tankers? if they are i haven’t seen the coverage
 

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Wouldn't you think that a country the size of China would have crude oil deposits somewhere within their own borders? Perhaps they do, but I have never heard that they produce crude oil, or natural gas, in any significant quantities.
They're a top 5 producer in % of global output but it's barely half of what the Saudis produce and less than a fourth of US production. They need a whole lot more.
 
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Anon1750875978

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shouldn’t a lot of countries be really pissed off at iran for shooting at tankers? if they are i haven’t seen the coverage
The US would be attacking Iran, militarily, if they had enough munitions.

The US doesn't, so we're begging the world to help with economic sanctions. And needing China and Russia to back that idea is a huge ask.

Merica is so screwed.
 
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baltimorened

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Wouldn't you think that a country the size of China would have crude oil deposits somewhere within their own borders? Perhaps they do, but I have never heard that they produce crude oil, or natural gas, in any significant quantities.
you would think so. But the Chinese are a sophisticated people, they must have geological experts and studies of potential deposits. Who knows, maybe they're waiting for the rest of the world to dry up and then they can demand higher prices since they'd be the only game in town
 

baltimorened

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If they did they would be exploiting it. Consider how bad they f*cked up their environment from coal for example. Occam’s Razor suggests they don’t have such deposits.
does china have any oil deposits? NedGPT "Yes, China has massive oil reserves, encompassing both underground natural deposits and a huge government-backed stockpile. It ranks among the top countries globally for both proven geological resources and strategic emergency inventory"
 

r_desihawk

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does china have any oil deposits? NedGPT "Yes, China has massive oil reserves, encompassing both underground natural deposits and a huge government-backed stockpile. It ranks among the top countries globally for both proven geological resources and strategic emergency inventory"
how much of those deposits are actually in philipine waters which china claims while casually ignoring international court verdicts ?
 
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fatpiggy

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How stupid do the”Iran is winning” crowd look right now?

They are getting their **** pushed in.


 

dpic73

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Iran has no negotiating leverage left. They are rotting from the inside


That would be cool if true but let's see what grok has to say about this channel.


No credible evidence supports the claim that the US Navy (or anyone) recently dredged a new or significantly widened channel between the Omani islands (near Jazirat Musandam / Al Khil) to create a special tanker route.

The viral posts and Morse Report interpretation rely on satellite imagery highlighting a passage. Independent assessments identify this as the long-charted natural feature known as Fakk al Asad (or Bab Musandam)—a deep-water gap between Ras al Bab (on the Musandam Peninsula) and Jazirat Musandam. Nautical sailing directions describe it as a clear, deep strait usable by power vessels with local knowledge; reported widths and depths (~0.2 mile / roughly matching the cited ~1,600 ft width and ~93 ft depth in places) align with existing charts rather than new excavation.

Key points against the claim:

No official confirmation from the US military, White House, CENTCOM, or Omani authorities.
No independent satellite analysis, commercial imagery providers, or maritime reporting has shown dredging signatures (e.g., equipment, sediment plumes, spoil disposal, or progressive bathymetric changes).

Recent imagery reviews describe the feature as unchanged and natural, with no engineering activity visible in the area.

The southern/Omani-side routes have been used more heavily during 2026 tensions (for coordination, escorts, “dark” transits, and mine avoidance), and the US has publicly emphasized mine-clearance operations in the broader strait. Those are distinct from creating a new dredged corridor.

In short, the imagery appears to show a pre-existing geographic passage that was misinterpreted (or overstated) as evidence of recent covert dredging. Larger conceptual ideas for Hormuz-bypass canals across the Musandam Peninsula exist as studies, but they are unrelated engineering proposals, not completed or ongoing work. The specific “US Navy dredged this path” assertion remains unverified and is contradicted by available charts, imagery analysis, and the lack of corroborating evidence.

 
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What Would Jesus Do?

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how much of those deposits are actually in philipine waters which china claims while casually ignoring international court verdicts ?
Massive NG reserves under the South China Seas. I've always thought that was one reason they were building and fortifying islands in those contested waters. But I haven't heard of any drilling operations there. Maybe I should ask our AI overlords (Claude, this time)
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Yes — actively and expanding. China's state-owned CNOOC (China National Offshore Oil Corporation) has been drilling extensively in the South China Sea, particularly in its own near-shore waters (the northern basins off Guangdong, Hainan, and the Beibu Gulf), and has been pushing into deeper water.


Recent activity:


  • CNOOC's offshore oil production rose 4% to 68 million tons in 2025, with gas up 15% to 30 billion cubic meters, and the company is now targeting 3,000-meter water depths, having already achieved commercial extraction at 1,500 meters.
  • In early 2025 CNOOC announced a major discovery at the Huizhou 19-6 oilfield in the eastern South China Sea, with proven reserves exceeding 100 million tons — found in deep and ultra-deep plays at a depth of 5,415 meters.
  • Since 2022 CNOOC has rolled out drilling projects across the South China Sea and Bohai Sea; the flagship "Deep Sea No. 1" gas project supplied 4.5 billion cubic meters of gas in 2025, covering about a quarter of demand in the Guangdong–Hong Kong–Macao Bay Area.
  • Other producing fields include Weizhou 10-5 (Beibu Gulf), Shenhai-1 (Qiongdongnan Basin), Panyu, Xijiang, Liuhua, Wushi 17-2, and the Enping oilfield off Shenzhen.

Context and drivers:


  • China's 15th Five-Year Plan (announced March 2026) positions the marine economy as a key growth pole; the sector already exceeds 11 trillion yuan (~$1.6 trillion) and accounts for 8% of GDP.
  • Beijing has been stepping up efforts to reduce dependence on imported oil and gas amid geopolitical uncertainty, pushing into deeper offshore drilling and self-reliant technology.

Geopolitical note: Most of this heavily-reported drilling is in waters close to the Chinese mainland (Guangdong, Hainan, Beibu Gulf) that aren't seriously disputed. China has separately conducted or supported exploration/drilling activity farther out in contested areas of the South China Sea (near the Paracels, Spratlys, and within other claimants' EEZs like Vietnam's and the Philippines'), which is more politically sensitive and periodically triggers protests from Vietnam, the Philippines, and others — that's a distinct, more contentious layer from the routine CNOOC production described above.
 

fatpiggy

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Iranian currency hits all time low today. They are getting their **** pushed in.

 

fatpiggy

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Who has been saying Iran is winning? I think the overwhelming consensus has been no one is winning. Even when we eventually walk away we won’t have “won” unless Iran surrenders…which seems far fetched.
We are kicking their *** militarily and economically. And we achieved our stated objective. If that is not called winning i don't know what is.
 

hawkeyetraveler

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The stated objective is, and always has been, to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.

Choosing not to understand that is a prime symptom of TDS.
Guilty as charged when it comes to my disdain for the orange pedo.

But…

We can, and have, done that for far less cost and economic impact than the stupidity Trump blundered his way into.

Choosing not to understand that is a prime symptom of being in the MAGA cult.
 

Anon1750875978

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We are kicking their *** militarily and economically. And we achieved our stated objective. If that is not called winning i don't know what is.
Then you don't know what winning is!

The leaders of Iran are wealthy and don't give a shiit about the citizens of the country.
What motivation would they have to cave in to US demands?
See, that's one of the biggest miscalculations of this WH. The leaders of the IRGC haven't suffered at all.
What the US/Trump has done is cause hardship for the rest of the world. And I think it's safe to say they underestimated the assistance Iran would get from Russia/China/NK.

There has been no meaningful change in Iran's leadership, nor have we disabled nuclear aspirations.
Get your head out of your azz and see the big picture.
 
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