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Moogy

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LMAO You said I think we deserved 9/11.

That ain't it. Quote it.

I liked it when, after illustrating that you said it, you then changed your request to me showing where you said it "verbatim." That was an awesome show of cowardice.
 

AFM22

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I liked it when, after illustrating that you said it, you then changed your request to me showing where you said it "verbatim." That was an awesome show of cowardice.
Because you obviously couldn't follow directions of quoting where I said it. It's like having to change your prompt when AI doesn't do it correctly.

You can't quote it. You're a liar.

Take your loss, Moogy.
 

Moogy

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Because you obviously couldn't follow directions of quoting where I said it. It's like having to change your prompt when AI doesn't do it correctly.

You can't quote it. You're a liar.

Take your loss, Moogy.

Except you said it. And I've shown it. But you're going to deny it now. Because you're a coward. Stand by your beliefs. That these things that happen to us, and the Jews, are just the consequences of our own actions.

This isn't some 4chan outlet, where ignorant hateful incels can scream "take the loss" or "crashout" and it has meaning because "snark uber alles."
 
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AFM22

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Except you said it. And I've shown it. But you're going to deny it now. Because you're a coward. Stand by your beliefs. That these things that happen to us, and the Jews, are just the consequences of our own actions.
I never said anything in the past tense. I said "more likely to create."

You were the one that made up all this fanfic of things I believe.

Then when I asked if you could quote me, you couldn't. You still can't. If you could have, you would have.
 

AFM22

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Ima call you pitbull.
Earth Mr GIF
 
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Moogy

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I never said anything in the past tense. I said "more likely to create."

You were the one that made up all this fanfic of things I believe.

Then when I asked if you could quote me, you couldn't. You still can't. If you could have, you would have.

Ah, so ... "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of our own actions" only applies in a forward-looking manner (even though it doesn't read as applying to the future only)? So, when/if those things happen, when we then look back at them, that won't apply any longer? Or, we're supposed to believe this concept only applies to some things that the Palestinians/Arab States/terrorists do, but not to others, somehow, making it a meaningless concept no one would ever produce as a meme? Your attempts to wriggle out of this fail the logic test ... because you said it. So, the NEXT Boston Marathon bomber will be "the consequences of our own actions," but the prior one wasn't? That's what you're trying to say now?

You said it. I produced it. Now you're trying to squirm out of it. Stand by your hate.
 
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AFM22

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Ah, so ... "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of our own actions" only applies in a forward-looking manner (even though it doesn't read as applying to the future only)? So, when/if those things happen, when we then look back at them, that won't apply any longer? Or, we're supposed to believe this concept only applies to some things that the Palestinians/Arab States/terrorists do, but not to others, somehow, making it a meaningless concept no one would ever produce as a meme? Your attempts to wriggle out of this fail the logic test ... because you said it. So, the NEXT Boston Marathon bomber will be "the consequences of our own actions," but the prior one wasn't? That's what you're trying to say now?

You said it. I produced it. Now you're trying to squirm out of it. Stand by your hate.
🥱 Quote it Moogy. Should be easy enough.
 
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I look in shock and awe at just how easily people were duped into following a complete idiot like Trump, and promoting that hate he espoused and his sycophants propagandized.

And then I see folks turn against our entire form of governance and our economic system, and embrace the terrorists over our ally (and ourselves), and I see it has happened yet again.

So many of you are so easily manipulated to be bad people thinking you're doing good things.
 

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🥱 Quote it Moogy. Should be easy enough.

It's been done. "more likely to produce the next Boston Marathon bomber ... well, well, well if it isn't the consequences of our own actions."

You can't wriggle out of this. We deserved 9/11, according to your sick abuse of logic and reasoning. It was just the consequence of our own actions, after all.
 
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AFM22

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It's been done. "more likely to produce the next Boston Marathon bomber ... well, well, well if it isn't the consequences of our own actions."

You can't wriggle out of this. We deserved 9/11, according to your sick abuse of logic and reasoning. It was just the consequence of our own actions, after all.
Do where I said we deserved 9/11. Do where I said I think my non-existent daughter deserved to be raped.

Its Been A Long Time Waiting GIF


Moogy takes things and makes up some weird argument so the shoe fits the other person.

No wonder people approach him to write fiction.
 

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Do where I said we deserved 9/11. Do where I said I think my non-existent daughter deserved to be raped.

Its Been A Long Time Waiting GIF


Moogy takes things and makes up some weird argument so the shoe fits the other person.

No wonder people approach him to write fiction.

AFM22 snarkily say: "Our current actions will have consequences, like future Boston Marathon bombers. But I totally didn't say that about the past. I never said past actions had past consequences! Because logic hard. Guys, I totally nailed it, because I never said we deserved 9/11 verbatim! We got him this time!"
 
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AFM22

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AFM22 snarkily say: "Our current actions will have consequences, like future Boston Marathon bombers. But I totally didn't say that about the past. I never said past actions had past consequences! Because logic hard. Guys, I totally nailed it, because I never said we deserved 9/11 verbatim! We got him this time!"
AFM said "constantly attacking people will likely cause a retaliation than 'propaganda'"

Moogy: YOU FUCAN THINK AMERICA DESERVED 9/11! YOU THINK YOUR NON EXISTANT DAUGHTER DESERVED TO BE RAPED!

Moogy, if I said those things, quote it.
 

Moogy

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AFM said "constantly attacking people will likely cause a retaliation than 'propaganda'"

Can AFM say this again, but this time in English?

Moogy: YOU FUCAN THINK AMERICA DESERVED 9/11! YOU THINK YOUR NON EXISTANT DAUGHTER DESERVED TO BE RAPED!

Moogy, if I said those things, quote it.
What you said is that current actions are more likely to produce another Boston Marathon bomber than "informants" (the wrong word, but we're dealing with you, so let's go with it) ... and then you meme'd "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" - a snarky reference to "this is your fault because of what you did" - i.e., you deserve it.

Do you dispute this? Do you not understand words?

So, we've established that you said, in the event of a future Boston Marathon bomber, that eventuality would be our fault - a consequence of our actions. We will have deserved it.

Now, that logic would extend to the PAST Boston Marathon bomber ... otherwise, why would you even think of that event while stating this? In your opinion, our actions led to the past Boston Marathon bomber ... therefore our actions may lead to the next Boston Marathon bomber. Or is your contention that, while the past bombing was totes not our fault, that you still think the same type of thing might happen again, and, this time, it would be our fault? That, somehow, in the past, the snarky "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" wouldn't apply to the same hypothesized event that, in the future, it will apply to? So, if the future Boston Marathon bombing, and the past Marathon bombing were our fault, in your eyes, so would be 9/11. We deserved it, according to you. A terrorist attack on our soil, based on the same generalized grievances, by the same generalized ideology. In your assessment, why wouldn't we deserve it?

Hence the reason I brought up the innocent victim of rape. Imagine, for a second, that a female family member or other loved one, was walking down the street, minding her own business, and she was raped. Now, imagine the usual a-holes came out and said things like "why was she there?" "why was she dressed like that?" ... and then some utterly inhuman deplorable POS came out and said "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of our own actions." and if people acted shocked at their callousness, he tried to say "what? I didn't say she deserved it! Show me, verbatim where I said she deserved it." You'd want to throat-punch that guy in perpetuity for being such a complete waste of matter.
 

AFM22

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Can AFM say this again, but this time in English?


What you said is that current actions are more likely to produce another Boston Marathon bomber than "informants" (the wrong word, but we're dealing with you, so let's go with it) ... and then you meme'd "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" - a snarky reference to "this is your fault because of what you did" - i.e., you deserve it.

Do you dispute this? Do you not understand words?

So, we've established that you said, in the event of a future Boston Marathon bomber, that eventuality would be our fault - a consequence of our actions. We will have deserved it.

Now, that logic would extend to the PAST Boston Marathon bomber ... otherwise, why would you even think of that event while stating this? In your opinion, our actions led to the past Boston Marathon bomber ... therefore our actions may lead to the next Boston Marathon bomber. Or is your contention that, while the past bombing was totes not our fault, that you still think the same type of thing might happen again, and, this time, it would be our fault? That, somehow, in the past, the snarky "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" wouldn't apply to the same hypothesized event that, in the future, it will apply to? So, if the future Boston Marathon bombing, and the past Marathon bombing were our fault, in your eyes, so would be 9/11. We deserved it, according to you. A terrorist attack on our soil, based on the same generalized grievances, by the same generalized ideology. In your assessment, why wouldn't we deserve it?

Hence the reason I brought up the innocent victim of rape. Imagine, for a second, that a female family member or other loved one, was walking down the street, minding her own business, and she was raped. Now, imagine the usual a-holes came out and said things like "why was she there?" "why was she dressed like that?" ... and then some utterly inhuman deplorable POS came out and said "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of our own actions." and if people acted shocked at their callousness, he tried to say "what? I didn't say she deserved it! Show me, verbatim where I said she deserved it." You'd want to throat-punch that guy in perpetuity for being such a complete waste of matter.
That's a long way to say you can't quote it.
 

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"Other Muslims"

"Bad stuff" = killing and raping

You're the absolute buffoon who equated looking sexy in someone's eyes to having your citizens killed on a regular basis as the "victim" threatens to end your existence, and has acted, repeatedly, to end your existence. You failed. Give someone else a chance to not look monumentally stupid.

fskillet say:
"Excusing away a rapist raping by blaming the victim for looking too sexy is the same as excusing away Israel attempting to gain tactical advantages against people who are actually raping and killing them. Victim shouldn't have looked sexy, "victim" shouldn't have raped and murdered. Totally samesies. Crash-out!"
No, I said you’re making the same stupid argument that dumb people who victim blame SA victims do. I didn’t equate the two - I said YOU’RE doing that.

If you weren’t having a temper tantrum you’d have probably clocked that.

Imagine excusing away the horrors being committed by one party on innocents and children because some ****** extremists on the opposing side did the same. Bill Maher is that you?
 
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Moogy

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You're also a lawyer, do you spend as much time twisting someone's words for your own narrative as Moogs does? Asking the same questions based on that narrative over and over? I bet his depositions take days.
I'm not a lawyer. I was a lawyer. And I never did depositions. You're supposed to be a doctor ... do you walk in to see a patient and say "I see you have cancer, let's remove some ribs" even though they're there because of a sinus infection, and have recovered from cancer 10 years ago? IOW, good snark is accurate snark.
 
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Moogy

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No, I said you’re making the same stupid argument that dumb people who victim blame SA victims do. I didn’t equate the two - I said YOU’RE doing that.

If you weren’t having a temper tantrum you’d have probably clocked that.

Imagine excusing away the horrors being committed by one party on innocents and children because some ****** extremists on the opposing side did the same. Bill Maher is that you?

Except I clearly explained I'm not doing that. These folks are defending themselves ... are they doing inappropriate things? Some barbaric things? Yes. No doubt. Would I prefer they don't do these things? Absolutely. But, will I lose sight of the fact that they're the victims in this, and they are surrounded by people who want them exterminated, and have acted on this desire in the past and present ... and will almost certainly never stop acting on this desire? No, I will not.

We had terrorist attacks on us, even though we're a comparatively isolated/separated country from our enemies ... and we went after the folks responsible with full strength. Now, imagine if we had to live under that threat daily, from all sides, right next door to us, and were the victims of attacks on a regular basis. We would have, somewhat justifiably, razed those areas by now. Decades ago, actually.

So, no, it's not like blaming the innocent victim for her rape. It's like seeing the victim of a rape, who has been mocked by the rapists and told they're going to rape and kill her, doing some effed up s.hit back at her rapists, and maybe people who support them, or have the ability to help stop them, but are doing nothing, and saying "whoa ... maybe pull it back a bit. Let's refocus." Not "we should take pity on these rapists. The victim is the bad guy here."
 
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Except I clearly explained I'm not doing that. These folks are defending themselves ... are they doing inappropriate things? Some barbaric things? Yes. No doubt. Would I prefer they don't do these things? Absolutely. But, will I lose sight of the fact that they're the victims in this, and they are surrounded by people who want them exterminated, and have acted on this desire in the past and present ... and will almost certainly never stop acting on this desire? No, I will not.

We had terrorist attacks on us, even though we're a comparatively isolated/separated country from our enemies ... and we went after the folks responsible with full strength. Now, imagine if we had to live under that threat daily, from all sides, right next door to us, and were the victims of attacks on a regular basis. We would have, somewhat justifiably, razed those areas by now. Decades ago, actually.

So, no, it's not like blaming the innocent victim for her rape. It's like seeing the victim of a rape, who has been mocked by the rapists and told they're going to rape and kill her, doing some effed up s.hit back at her rapists, and maybe people who support them, or have the ability to help stop them, but are doing nothing, and saying "whoa ... maybe pull it back a bit. Let's refocus." Not "we should take pity on these rapists. The victim is the bad guy here."
You’re justifying their actions by saying “well since they’ve been dealing with this for so long and they’re surrounded - what can you expect them to do??”

I wouldn’t have as much disagreement with you if it weren’t for the fact there are innocent people and children feeling the brunt of the settlers’ actions - in addition to those who are the truly guilty.
 

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I'm not a lawyer. I was a lawyer. And I never did depositions. You're supposed to be a doctor ... do you walk in to see a patient and say "I see you have cancer, let's remove some ribs" even though they're there because of a sinus infection, and have recovered from cancer 10 years ago? IOW, good snark is accurate snark.
Your analogies are truly bizarre. The mental gymnastics one must take are really impressive.
 

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Your analogies are truly bizarre. The mental gymnastics one must take are really impressive.

My analogies are perfectly logical. And I use crazy scenarios to highlight the stupidity of the people to whom I'm responding.

''You're a lawyer" to someone who used to be a lawyer = "You have cancer" to someone who used to have cancer.
"Since you're a lawyer, you must have taken depositions, and incredibly long depositions, at that" to someone who never took depositions as a lawyer = "We have to remove a rib" to someone who has a sinus infection ... ignorant misdiagnosis in each case.

You get perfectly valid and sound logical syllogisms with me, along with relentless mocking. You're welcome.
 
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You’re justifying their actions by saying “well since they’ve been dealing with this for so long and they’re surrounded - what can you expect them to do??”

No, I'm explaining that their actions, while not themselves justifiable, do not change the overarching narrative that they are, in fact, the attacked, the abused and the hunted.


I wouldn’t have as much disagreement with you if it weren’t for the fact there are innocent people and children feeling the brunt of the settlers’ actions - in addition to those who are the truly guilty.

That's thuper. Now apply that to what set this off - the October 7th attacks where Hamas conducted a sneak attack that resulted in the death, injury, rape, kidnapping, etc. of thousands of innocent Israelis ... then ran and hid amongst the "general public" of the Gaza Strip, whose inhabitants helped hide them, or did nothing to "out" them so they could be held accountable.
 
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My analogies are perfectly logical. And I use crazy scenarios to highlight the stupidity of the people to whom I'm responding.

''You're a lawyer" to someone who used to be a lawyer = "You have cancer" to someone who used to have cancer.
"Since you're a lawyer, you must have taken depositions, and incredibly long depositions, at that" to someone who never took depositions as a lawyer = "We have to remove a rib" to someone who has a sinus infection ... ignorant misdiagnosis in each case.

You get perfectly valid and sound logical syllogisms with me, along with relentless mocking. You're welcome.
Comparing lawyers to cancer is about the only logical thing in that diatribe.
 

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So, if we get another Boston Marathon bombing, will it be the consequences of our own actions?
I think Israelis constantly attacking Palestinians are more likely to create an anti-Israel reaction like a Boston Marathon bombing than "Muslim informants/Propaganda."

That's what I said earlier.
 
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Then quote it.
What you said is that current actions are more likely to produce another Boston Marathon bomber than "informants" (the wrong word, but we're dealing with you, so let's go with it) ... and then you meme'd "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" - a snarky reference to "this is your fault because of what you did" - i.e., you deserve it.

Do you dispute this? Do you not understand words?

So, we've established that you said, in the event of a future Boston Marathon bomber, that eventuality would be our fault - a consequence of our actions. We will have deserved it.

Now, that logic would extend to the PAST Boston Marathon bomber ... otherwise, why would you even think of that event while stating this? In your opinion, our actions led to the past Boston Marathon bomber ... therefore our actions may lead to the next Boston Marathon bomber. Or is your contention that, while the past bombing was totes not our fault, that you still think the same type of thing might happen again, and, this time, it would be our fault? That, somehow, in the past, the snarky "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions" wouldn't apply to the same hypothesized event that, in the future, it will apply to? So, if the future Boston Marathon bombing, and the past Marathon bombing were our fault, in your eyes, so would be 9/11. We deserved it, according to you. A terrorist attack on our soil, based on the same generalized grievances, by the same generalized ideology. In your assessment, why wouldn't we deserve it?

Hence the reason I brought up the innocent victim of rape. Imagine, for a second, that a female family member or other loved one, was walking down the street, minding her own business, and she was raped. Now, imagine the usual a-holes came out and said things like "why was she there?" "why was she dressed like that?" ... and then some utterly inhuman deplorable POS came out and said "well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of our own actions." and if people acted shocked at their callousness, he tried to say "what? I didn't say she deserved it! Show me, verbatim where I said she deserved it." You'd want to throat-punch that guy in perpetuity for being such a complete waste of matter.
 
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