Battle of Millard Tonight

[Claud-Henry Smoot]

He was very impressive last night to say the least.

If Pittman didn’t get to personal fouls in the game i think MN would have won the game, MS had no answer in defending him last night.

That's why he was recruited from Central

 

[Redscarlet]

That's why he was recruited from Central

You going to cry now.

 

[Kakdawg]

I thought MN DBs were locking up MS WRs. Trey wasn't as accurate last night as he showed previously but man his skill talent looked *** on that team. I don't watch a lot of Nebraska HS football games but skill wise I wasn't very impressed outside of Pittman and Trae at times.



Holla

 

[Redscarlet]

I thought MN DBs were locking up MS WRs. Trey wasn't as accurate last night as he showed previously but man his skill talent looked *** on that team. I don't watch a lot of Nebraska HS football games but skill wise I wasn't very impressed outside of Pittman and Trae at times.



Holla

MN QB was very good and very impressive with some of his sideline throws.

MS running backs 7 & 24 were pretty good despite number seven fumbling the ball twice once inside the 5 yard line.

 

[Claud-Henry Smoot]

You going to cry now.

Man you are an odd one

 

[steinek11]

North gifted that game away

 

[HuskerO58]

You get booted on and SEC game for the same .

What'd he do exactly? Illegal hit? Taunting?

 

[king_kong__]

What'd he do exactly? Illegal hit? Taunting?

He spiked the ball in the endzone celebrating a long TD catch for one

Not sure about the other

 

[Walleye 1]

Taunting is such a soft unsportsmanlike penalty. Don’t care if it’s high school, college and ridiculous in the NFL. Come on. Some of the taunting is original and hilarious

 

[Bigred2467]

He spiked the ball in the endzone celebrating a long TD catch for one

Not sure about the other

Fighting.

 

[Redscarlet]

Man you are an odd one

Well, I think the same about you.

 

[HBK4life_rivals100467]

Well, I think the same about you.

Not his fault. He's a liberal.🫣

 

[Claud-Henry Smoot]

Not his fault. He's a liberal.🫣

Keep ya a little honest in this echo chamber of a site

 

[Redscarlet]

Not his fault. He's a liberal.🫣

Figure’s.

 

[HuskerO58]

He spiked the ball in the endzone celebrating a long TD catch for one

Not sure about the other

Spiking the ball will count against you towards your unsportsmanlike conduct count? Lame-o.

 

[Kakdawg]

MN QB was very good and very impressive with some of his sideline throws.

MS running backs 7 & 24 were pretty good despite number seven fumbling the ball twice once inside the 5 yard line.

Idk I guess "pretty good" is relative. I'm comparing it to skill talent here in SC. Again maybe I was expecting too much. After to listening to all the hype about the 2 top 5 teams I was just a little let down.

Again Trae and Pittman looked as good as anyone I've seen recently. At least talent wise. Trae was a bit off though but the talent is clearly there. I guess nothing else jumped off the page to me. Wanted to see more from the WR from Texas on MS team. The long pass was great of course but I wanted more.



Holla

 

[Big bo fan]

Idk I guess "pretty good" is relative. I'm comparing it to skill talent here in SC. Again maybe I was expecting too much. After to listening to all the hype about the 2 top 5 teams I was just a little let down.

Again Trae and Pittman looked as good as anyone I've seen recently. At least talent wise. Trae was a bit off though but the talent is clearly there. I guess nothing else jumped off the page to me. Wanted to see more from the WR from Texas on MS team. The long pass was great of course but I wanted more.



Holla

Nebraska HS football overall is poor compared most states. You have at best a handful of teams with Major talent and even then it’s only 1 or two players on a team.

 

[HuskerInCarolina]

Idk I guess "pretty good" is relative. I'm comparing it to skill talent here in SC. Again maybe I was expecting too much. After to listening to all the hype about the 2 top 5 teams I was just a little let down.

Again Trae and Pittman looked as good as anyone I've seen recently. At least talent wise. Trae was a bit off though but the talent is clearly there. I guess nothing else jumped off the page to me. Wanted to see more from the WR from Texas on MS team. The long pass was great of course but I wanted more.



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Shoot what part of SC brother?? I’m in the GSP area.
And you can’t compare Nebraska HS football to HS football in the South. It’s a whole different world down here (as you know) and the talent level doesn’t compare.
Definitely wanted to see more from Ellis. He looked like he was going through the motions a lot, but that’s just my impression watching from my phone screen in SC

 

[Kakdawg]

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Shoot what part of SC brother?? I’m in the GSP area.
And you can’t compare Nebraska HS football to HS football in the South. It’s a whole different world down here (as you know) and the talent level doesn’t compare.
Definitely wanted to see more from Ellis. He looked like he was going through the motions a lot, but that’s just my impression watching from my phone screen in SC

I'm in the same area. Currently in Greenville also.

Yeah that's why I said it's relative based on what you have seen in Nebraska. I haven't seen a lot of Nebraska football other than a few of the bigger games that have been televised the last 4 or 5 years or so. This one was really hyped so I knew I had to watch it.

But like I said it didn't stand out much to me talent wise other than maybe 2-3 guys. I'm used to seeing the higher level games in these parts and it's just a lot more overall "talent" on the field. It's not a knock just simply what I observed.



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[Kakdawg]

Nebraska HS football overall is poor compared most states. You have at best a handful of teams with Major talent and even then it’s only 1 or two players on a team.

That might be true. I know fans always get mad at whoever the coach is when he's not taking a lot of in state guys. But when they do take a lot of those guys and they don't pan out at some point I'm guessing coaches start second guessing themselves . There seems to always be a guy or two that goes somewhere else and has success and coaches get killed for it. Like why didn't we get this guy? When he was maybe one out of the last 10 who panned out (random number).

I've always said coaches need to recruit and sign the best players available. I don't care if he's from Nebraska or one of the Dakotas or Wyoming or Miami Florida. Sign the best guys you can get. I've always hated the "he's an in-state guy" stuff. Who cares where he's from can he play ??? For me it gets even more clouded when the kid is a legacy player. So NOW because his dad was good 25 years ago he's even more likely to get an offer.

The fans wanna win at the highest level but SOME wanna settle on some talent that will prevent that from happening. Not just in state either. Just using that as an example right now. Guys suck in Florida, Georgia and California too lol. My point is that some try and justify the in-state guys with some magical love for the team and hidden super powers (sarcasm alert). Just gotta sign the best 18-22 guys you can get from wherever they happen to be. You guys can look at the recruiting list from the past few years and tell we haven't done that in a very long time. Maybe even going back to the Calahan era regardless of the coach.

Sorry for rambling..


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[king_kong__]

That might be true. I know fans always get mad at whoever the coach is when he's not taking a lot of in state guys. But when they do take a lot of those guys and they don't pan out at some point I'm guessing coaches start second guessing themselves . There seems to always be a guy or two that goes somewhere else and has success and coaches get killed for it. Like why didn't we get this guy? When he was maybe one out of the last 10 who panned out (random number).

I've always said coaches need to recruit and sign the best players available. I don't care if he's from Nebraska or one of the Dakotas or Wyoming or Miami Florida. Sign the best guys you can get. I've always hated the "he's an in-state guy" stuff. Who cares where he's from can he play ??? For me it gets even more clouded when the kid is a legacy player. So NOW because his dad was good 25 years ago he's even more likely to get an offer.

The fans wanna win at the highest level but SOME wanna settle on some talent that will prevent that from happening. Not just in state either. Just using that as an example right now. Guys suck in Florida, Georgia and California too lol. My point is that some try and justify the in-state guys with some magical love for the team and hidden super powers (sarcasm alert). Just gotta sign the best 18-22 guys you can get from wherever they happen to be. You guys can look at the recruiting list from the past few years and tell we haven't done that in a very long time. Maybe even going back to the Calahan era regardless of the coach.

Sorry for rambling..


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This works in NCAA Football, but not in real life where culture and intangibles play an oversized role in team success (or failure)

Especially at a place like NU

 

[OxfordComma]

Taunting is such a soft unsportsmanlike penalty. Don’t care if it’s high school, college and ridiculous in the NFL. Come on. Some of the taunting is original and hilarious

As usual, it helps to ask yourself what it would look like without any taunting penalties. It would quickly get ugly.

 

[4.6.3]

Keep ya a little honest in this echo chamber of a site

You’re lucky you can respond. This place used to love shutting down opposing views and just banning people

 

[Kakdawg]

This works in NCAA Football, but not in real life where culture and intangibles play an oversized role in team success (or failure)

Especially at a place like NU

Only in Nebraska do people think this is case. Which is a huge part of the problem. I bet you Indiana didn't think that way. You go get "guys" period. If that ends up being 8 guys from instate in a particular year fine. If it ends up being 0 players that should be fine also. Nebraska problem imo is that fans and HS coaches ***** obsessively about the team not recruiting some local "super star" who coaches don't seem good enough. Coaches feel the pressure more times than not and there you have it.


Holla

 

[king_kong__]

Only in Nebraska do people think this is case. Which is a huge part of the problem. I bet you Indiana didn't think that way. You go get "guys" period. If that ends up being 8 guys from instate in a particular year fine. If it ends up being 0 players that should be fine also. Nebraska problem imo is that fans and HS coaches ***** obsessively about the team not recruiting some local "super star" who coaches don't seem good enough. Coaches feel the pressure more times than not and there you have it.


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Indiana’s entire core - including coaching staff - has been together for years

Cig literally said he brought them from James Madison to show Indiana how winners win (culture)

They are perhaps the best example of what I’m talking about

 

[Macho Man]

Idk I guess "pretty good" is relative. I'm comparing it to skill talent here in SC. Again maybe I was expecting too much. After to listening to all the hype about the 2 top 5 teams I was just a little let down.

Again Trae and Pittman looked as good as anyone I've seen recently. At least talent wise. Trae was a bit off though but the talent is clearly there. I guess nothing else jumped off the page to me. Wanted to see more from the WR from Texas on MS team. The long pass was great of course but I wanted more.



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Watch out, you’ll get massacred on here for daring to suggest that Nebraska HS football is a joke compared to a lot, if not most, states. That Millard South team I watched last night wouldn’t be in the top 20 teams in a lot of places, esepcially the south.

 

[HuskerO58]

As usual, it helps to ask yourself what it would look like without any taunting penalties. It would quickly get ugly.

I'm okay with taunting / unsportsmanlike conduct being a 15 yard penalty. I just think its silly that it can count towards you being ejected.

 

[HuskerO58]

Indiana’s entire core - including coaching staff - has been together for years

Cig literally said he brought them from James Madison to show Indiana how winners win (culture)

They are perhaps the best example of what I’m talking about

@Kakdawg was specifically talking about which state we get our recruits from. That it doesn't matter if they're Nebraska boys or not, just get dudes.

Your response to that implied that it does matter which state we get our recruits from as it helps with culture & other intangibles. Maybe you meant something else outside of recruiting Nebraska boys when you made that comment?

Kak said Indiana proves it doesn't matter which state we get our recruits from. Which he's spot on.

 

[Redscarlet]

I'm okay with taunting / unsportsmanlike conduct being a 15 yard penalty. I just think its silly that it can count towards you being ejected.

I agree, yesterday during the TCU/NC game, TCU running back made the first down gesture, it was given a penalty for it.

I seen that as freaking ridiculous just by doing that. Players can’t have any fun without be penalized for it.

 

[king_kong__]

@Kakdawg was specifically talking about which state we get our recruits from. That it doesn't matter if they're Nebraska boys or not, just get dudes.

Your response to that implied that it does matter which state we get our recruits from as it helps with culture & other intangibles. Maybe you meant something else outside of recruiting Nebraska boys when you made that comment?

Kak said Indiana proves it doesn't matter which state we get our recruits from. Which he's spot on.

Their core all came from the DMV where James Madison is

They ported it to Indiana, a place with no football culture to speak of

Cig’s top recruit in this year’s class? You guessed it - 5* from Indiana

You’ll see this everywhere you find success

 

[Kakdawg]

Indiana’s entire core - including coaching staff - has been together for years

Cig literally said he brought them from James Madison to show Indiana how winners win (culture)

They are perhaps the best example of what I’m talking about

Culture is clearly NOT what I'm talking about. I'm sure you know that but continue to spin away.


Holla

 

[Kakdawg]

Watch out, you’ll get massacred on here for daring to suggest that Nebraska HS football is a joke compared to a lot, if not most, states. That Millard South team I watched last night wouldn’t be in the top 20 teams in a lot of places, esepcially the south.

I didn't see the depth of talent like I see here. I can't speak for other states or further down south or even up north for that matter. But for me it was just "ok they look ok" . Just not earth shattering like I thought based on the conversations I've listened to. Again maybe it was just me setting the bar a little too high.

Fwiw Im sure some will get at me for the comments. It's not a shot from me just an observation. Is what it is tho...



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[king_kong__]

Culture is clearly NOT what I'm talking about. I'm sure you know that but continue to spin away.


Holla

I know you’re not.

Perhaps you should be, though, because all the talent in the world is useless without it.

 

[HuskerO58]

Their core all came from the DMV where James Madison is

They ported it to Indiana, a place with no football culture to speak of

Cig’s top recruit in this year’s class? You guessed it - 5* from Indiana

You’ll see this everywhere you find success

Yes, exactly. Cignetti & Indiana's success didn't come from recruiting Indiana kids.

Just like Nebraska's success wont come from whether we recruit a bunch of Nebraska boys or not. Which was Kak's point.

 

[Kakdawg]

@Kakdawg was specifically talking about which state we get our recruits from. That it doesn't matter if they're Nebraska boys or not, just get dudes.

Your response to that implied that it does matter which state we get our recruits from as it helps with culture & other intangibles. Maybe you meant something else outside of recruiting Nebraska boys when you made that comment?

Kak said Indiana proves it doesn't matter which state we get our recruits from. Which he's spot on.

Thank you sir. That's EXACTLY what I meant . I think he knew that as well. Just trying to spin the conversation in a completely different direction to prove something completely different.

Kong is one of those guys who believe that in state narrative. You don't remember his Haarberg love affair at QB a couple years ago? That was the perfect example of what I was talking about.



Holla

 

[Charlie Marlow]

How exactly is Trae improving his game by participating in this nonsense? No hate for the kid, but feel like grown ups are doing him a disservice.

 

[Kakdawg]

Their core all came from the DMV where James Madison is

They ported it to Indiana, a place with no football culture to speak of

Cig’s top recruit in this year’s class? You guessed it - 5* from Indiana

You’ll see this everywhere you find success

I'm assuming you are joking. You have to see that is not even close to what I'm talking about lol.



Holla

 

[Kakdawg]

I know you’re not.

Perhaps you should be, though, because all the talent in the world is useless without it.

You wanna talk culture create a thread and talk about it. Don't hijack this one and insert nothing relevant to what we are discussing.



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[Kakdawg]

Yes, exactly. Cignetti & Indiana's success didn't come from recruiting Indiana kids.

Just like Nebraska's success wont come from whether we recruit a bunch of Nebraska boys or not. Which was Kak's point.

Hes playing dumb i HOPE lol....


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[Redscarlet]

Thank you sir. That's EXACTLY what I meant . I think he knew that as well. Just trying to spin the conversation in a completely different direction to prove something completely different.

Kong is one of those guys who believe that in state narrative. You don't remember his Haarberg love affair at QB a couple years ago? That was the perfect example of what I was talking about.



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That’s what Kong does argue just to argue.