SEC finalizes Penalties for University and Coaches if they break the transfer rules

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

LSU's brass even voted in favor of passing these rules. The member institutions voted 16-0 in favor of adopting them.

Which is why it is highly unlikely this gets beaten in court by a player suing to become eligible at an SEC school. Sorry LSU players, your school just told you they don't think you should be eligible. In fact they just empowered the SEC commissioner to severely punish their own school if you ever get into a game at LSU.

I'll be interested to see what other conferences pass similar rules by unanimous votes.

 

[ScWildcat3]

It was a 16-0 unanimious vote by the SEC schools. That puts them in a great position to enforce these rules.

Let's say an LSU athlete sues. The judge will look him in the eye and say "LSU literally just voted for these rules. Why should you be exempt from the rule if your school believes you should be held to it?"

The rules are very loosely worded. Easy holes to poke in them. I guess there could be a more finely described version of it. Like who decides what is and isn’t an actual contract. And if you didn’t enter your name in the draft how can you withdraw your name?

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

The rules are very loosely worded. Easy holes to poke in them. I guess there could be a more finely described version of it. Like who decides what is and isn’t an actual contract. And if you didn’t enter your name in the draft how can you withdraw your name?

While some talking heads ran their months yesterday, all they did was make it clear they didn't know what they are talking about.

Players with expired eligibility are automatically entered in the NBA draft. There is no mechanism for them to remove their names. So the SEC rules about not removing your name from the draft are clearly not referring to those players.

To put it even more clearly, Mark Mitchell is not impacted by these new SEC rules at all. His eligibility is still entirely dependent on his Louisville court case, and the SEC interconference transfer rule.

 

[ScWildcat3]

While some talking heads ran their months yesterday, all they did was make it clear they didn't know what they are talking about.

Players with expired eligibility are automatically entered in the NBA draft. There is no mechanism for them to remove their names. So the SEC rules about not removing your name from the draft are clearly not referring to those players.

To put it even more clearly, Mark Mitchell is not impacted by these new SEC rules at all. His eligibility is still entirely dependent on his Louisville court case, and the SEC interconference transfer rule.

And if that’s the case he will be eligible

 

[BigBluefoot]

Considering it's the wild west now in collegiate sports, I have to wonder why Sankey is arbitrarily deciding to be heavy handed and put SEC schools at a disadvantage in relation to other conferences.

 

[Anon668007]

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[Im The Village Idiot]

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[DKersey]

It might come to pass that Mitchell will have to seek a school not a member of the SEC

 

[loublue22_rivals308424]

It might come to pass that Mitchell will have to seek a school not a member of the SEC

Every conference is adopting this.

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

And if that’s the case he will be eligible

He doesn't meet the SEC's rule about being in the portal by April if you want to be immediately eligible at a new SEC school. A rule UK voted to implement. I still think that is the biggest roadblock for Mitchell. Because at the end of the day Mitchell could have transferred anywhere. He chose UK knowing full well that UK voted to implement an interconference transfer rule that leaves him ineligible for '26-'27. That's going to be tough to beat if the SEC enforces it. A judge is likely to ask why he should be exempt from a rule that UK supports, and why Mitchell would have to just picked from the hundreds of schools that didn't have that particular eligibility rule as a roadblock.

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

Every conference is adopting this.

Talking about the previously existing SEC rule stating a player transferring between 2 SEC schools must be in the portal by April. A rule UK voted for. Mitchell did not meet that deadline.

As Mitchell's case now stands, the SEC transfer rule is his biggest roadblock to playing for UK this season. At any non-SEC school he's completely clear of that issue.

 

[Kantucke_rivals]

It begins

 

[FLBBNFAN]

If I’m Pope I just try to serve my full half season penalty at the beginning of the year. Be ready to go for conference season and let’s roll.

Pope seems to be pretty cautious in general so my opinion is they thought this through and believe the risk is minimal. Personally I think the new rules collaspe in a court challenge.

 

[BlueSince92]

It’s past time to take a stand against these bastards.

“When in the course of human events…”

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

It begins

The SEC is still fully within their rights to punish Texas if he plays in any games. And since Texas was part of the unanimous vote, it's very likely penalties will be upheld in the long run.

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

Pope seems to be pretty cautious in general so my opinion is they thought this through and believe the risk is minimal. Personally I think the new rules collaspe in a court challenge.

The prevailing sentiment is the new SEC rules will stand up to court challenge. 16-0 uninamous vote by the SEC schools. A player can simply go to some other school not constrained by these rules.

And again, these new rules don't impact Mark Mitchell.

 

[BookofMormon]

Every conference is adopting this.

Yup - the only two conferences really even partaking in it are the SEC (surprise) and the B12, plus Pitino. I don't think there is one B10 or ACC team even doing it.

 

[loublue22_rivals308424]

All of this is downstream of the 5 in 5 rule, these guys did not have the opportunity to decide what to do in the spring, but their "decision" is being held against them. Mitchell specifically did not sign a contract, and could not have "withdrawn" from the draft even if he wanted to.

 

[Im The Village Idiot]

Pope seems to be pretty cautious in general so my opinion is they thought this through and believe the risk is minimal. Personally I think the new rules collaspe in a court challenge.

I’m not sure why people say Pope seems cautious. He’s pretty ambitious and forward thinking, kind of seems like a risk taker to me. Think his personality and demeanor are why he gets labeled the way he does.

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

It’s past time to take a stand against these bastards.

“When in the course of human events…”

Oh buddy, there's at least 1000 things going on in America right now that needs to be stood up to before we start a revolution to get college athletes even more money and more free classes. I mean, UK literally just voted for these new SEC rules.

 

[ScWildcat3]

He doesn't meet the SEC's rule about being in the portal by April if you want to be immediately eligible at a new SEC school. A rule UK voted to implement. I still think that is the biggest roadblock for Mitchell. Because at the end of the day Mitchell could have transferred anywhere. He chose UK knowing full well that UK voted to implement an interconference transfer rule that leaves him ineligible for '26-'27. That's going to be tough to beat if the SEC enforces it. A judge is likely to ask why he should be exempt from a rule that UK supports, and why Mitchell would have to just picked from the hundreds of schools that didn't have that particular eligibility rule as a roadblock.

That was covered in the TRO. Nobody is worried about the sec transfer rule.

 

[TheResistance]

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

That was covered in the TRO. Nobody is worried about the sec transfer rule.

You are wildly incorrect with that statement.

 

[ScWildcat3]

You are wildly incorrect with that statement.

I’m not worried about the transfer rule. It’s already been taken care of internally. From what I’ve heard through some aau coaches and other coaching friends Missouri not being against it helps Mitchell and the portal thing. It’s a rule sankey can bypass easily if no contesting of it from the previous school.

 

[DudahUK]

It was a 16-0 unanimious vote by the SEC schools. That puts them in a great position to enforce these rules.

Let's say an LSU athlete sues. The judge will look him in the eye and say "LSU literally just voted for these rules. Why should you be exempt from the rule if your school believes you should be held to it?"

That means jack if what they are doing is illegal in the eyes of the judges. SEC doesn’t trump the government.

 

[DudahUK]

I’m not worried about the transfer rule. It’s already been taken care of internally. From what I’ve heard through some aau coaches and other coaching friends Missouri not being against it helps Mitchell and the portal thing. It’s a rule sankey can bypass easily if no contesting of it from the previous school.

That’s good to know Missouri isn’t fighting it. That would be a bad look if they did. I’m sure if he knew he had a 5th year, he would transfer regardless.

 

[ScWildcat3]

That’s good to know Missouri isn’t fighting it. That would be a bad look if they did. I’m sure if he knew he had a 5th year, he would transfer regardless.

It helps they don’t have a roster spot for him as well. Also he left on good terms. Gates is a highly respected guy also.

 

[ScWildcat3]

That means jack if what they are doing is illegal in the eyes of the judges. SEC doesn’t trump the government.

I think the schools have something up their sleeves personally. LSU reportedly already backed out the vote and abstained. That makes me think maybe UK was told Mitchell is good.

 

[tcurtis75]

SEC offers clarification on UK basketball’s Mark Mitchell | Lexington Herald Leader

 

[Global Havok]

It was a 16-0 unanimious vote by the SEC schools. That puts them in a great position to enforce these rules.

Let's say an LSU athlete sues. The judge will look him in the eye and say "LSU literally just voted for these rules. Why should you be exempt from the rule if your school believes you should be held to it?"

Schools can't sign away someone's rights on their behalf.

 

[DudahUK]

I think the schools have something up their sleeves personally. LSU reportedly already backed out the vote and abstained. That makes me think maybe UK was told Mitchell is good.

Let’s freaking hope man. This is all just too complicated and should have never have been a thing If the NCAA had a lick of sense.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

I’m not sure why people say Pope seems cautious. He’s pretty ambitious and forward thinking, kind of seems like a risk taker to me. Think his personality and demeanor are why he gets labeled the way he does.

I meant that he seems to hold his cards tight to his vest . Given his past comments on waiting on various rulings from the ncaa etc I would imagine him and the administration must feel confident that Mitchell will weather any challenges. I'm glad he signed him it's a great pickup for us.

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

Thr

Schools can't sign away someone's rights on their behalf.

Those LSU players have a couple hundred other schools they can try to get eligible at. Just not the SEC schools.

 

[TigerMoving]

LSU literally just voted for this rule.

Did they vote specifically for that or did they just at some point vote to give Sankey more power. That was unclear to me.

 

[ScWildcat3]

Mitchell is good to go as long as tro holds up

 

[Bowfreak.]

SEC offers clarification on UK basketball’s Mark Mitchell | Lexington Herald Leader

Nobody seems interested in reading this clarification that Mitchell it GTG.

 

[ScWildcat3]

Nobody seems interested in reading this clarification that Mitchell it GTG.

Yep. Been saying it. If his tro stays he’s good

 

[DudahUK]

Mitchell is good to go as long as tro holds up

Tro? What’s that? Thanks.

the court order I assume?

 

[TarHeelInCharlotte]

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Tro? What’s that? Thanks.

the court order I assume?

Temporary Restraining Order

The initial ruling in his lawsuit that makes him temporarily eligible