I hope Enes Kanter Freedom sues the hell out of the Chicago arena & the WNBA. Got escorted out for doing nothing.

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Celebrated Sophie making a 3 and was basically accosted by somebody Cloud. He said she was dropping F-bombs in front of kids right and left. He reported Security touching him, getting him to leave, gave him no reason. All the while the arena displayed a pro-trans message, of course, on their overhead message board. Why is it that the left/pro-trans people accuse Sophie and bio. girls/women supporters of hate when they are the only side that seems to ever show hate. Typical as is seems every similar issue the left are the ones full of hatefulness and promoting violence. Kanter Freedom was apparently just watching the game when Cloud started her nonsense. She should have been kicked out and suspended but of course wasn`t. Kanter Freedom`s liberty to be in an arena to watch a basketball game was clearly compromised by the pro-trans group. Sophie never said anything other that she supports biological girls and women only playing women`s sports yet they treat her as if she is the deranged one. These people are truly insufferable. I understand now why more of the apparently normal players are reluctant to speak up - my apologies to Aliyah Boston as who would want to be treated like Sophie has. She is, unfortunately, out there on a WNBA island. What a shame.
 

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Celebrated Sophie making a 3 and was basically accosted by somebody Cloud. He said she was dropping F-bombs in front of kids right and left. He reported Security touching him, getting him to leave, gave him no reason. All the while the arena displayed a pro-trans message, of course, on their overhead message board. Why is it that the left/pro-trans people accuse Sophie and bio. girls/women supporters of hate when they are the only side that seems to ever show hate. Typical as is seems every similar issue the left are the ones full of hatefulness and promoting violence. Kanter Freedom was apparently just watching the game when Cloud started her nonsense. She should have been kicked out and suspended but of course wasn`t. Kanter Freedom`s liberty to be in an arena to watch a basketball game was clearly compromised by the pro-trans group. Sophie never said anything other that she supports biological girls and women only playing women`s sports yet they treat her as if she is the deranged one. These people are truly insufferable. I understand now why more of the apparently normal players are reluctant to speak up - my apologies to Aliyah Boston as who would want to be treated like Sophie has. She is, unfortunately, out there on a WNBA island. What a shame.

There is no doubt they were looking for an excuse to kick him out. There is a video of it floating around. And while the player did take the time time to start a verbal altercation with him/her, he/she did take a step towards the court.

Not sure about the real NBA, but I think that might be enough to cause ejection.

I look forward to the brave young woman getting on the court where the players can settle it on the court.
 
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There is no doubt they were looking for an excuse to kick him out. There is a video of it floating around. And while the player did take the time time to start a verbal altercation with him/her, he/she did take a step towards the court.

Not sure about the real NBA, but I think that might be enough to cause ejection.

I look forward to the brave young woman getting on the court where the players can settle it on the court.
I want to see how things go over when this brave young woman is in the WNBA next year and walks through the locker room with her va JJ hanging out.
 

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Liberal Chicago would throw out any lawsuit. They're going to side with the league/arena that they can toss anyone they want from arena-especially with all the pro trans sentiment going on.
 
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Celebrated Sophie making a 3 and was basically accosted by somebody Cloud. He said she was dropping F-bombs in front of kids right and left. He reported Security touching him, getting him to leave, gave him no reason. All the while the arena displayed a pro-trans message, of course, on their overhead message board. Why is it that the left/pro-trans people accuse Sophie and bio. girls/women supporters of hate when they are the only side that seems to ever show hate. Typical as is seems every similar issue the left are the ones full of hatefulness and promoting violence. Kanter Freedom was apparently just watching the game when Cloud started her nonsense. She should have been kicked out and suspended but of course wasn`t. Kanter Freedom`s liberty to be in an arena to watch a basketball game was clearly compromised by the pro-trans group. Sophie never said anything other that she supports biological girls and women only playing women`s sports yet they treat her as if she is the deranged one. These people are truly insufferable. I understand now why more of the apparently normal players are reluctant to speak up - my apologies to Aliyah Boston as who would want to be treated like Sophie has. She is, unfortunately, out there on a WNBA island. What a shame.
So I guess you fully support men in women's sports. What a guy!
 

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He now identifies as a woman(sometimes) if you haven`t heard. He and the other ex-NBA guy(? Royce White) are trying to make a point about the absurdity and hypocrisy of the so-called "leaders" of the WNBA, who appear to have the spine of a jellyfish. Based on everything the leadership has said, these guys, I mean gals, should be eligible to play in 2027. Of course the league will find a way so that doesn`t happen.
 

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He now identifies as a woman(sometimes) if you haven`t heard. He and the other ex-NBA guy(? Royce White) are trying to make a point about the absurdity and hypocrisy of the so-called "leaders" of the WNBA, who appear to have the spine of a jellyfish. Based on everything the leadership has said, these guys, I mean gals, should be eligible to play in 2027. Of course the league will find a way so that doesn`t happen.

FWIW- neither player is a trans individual. Neither has expressed any doubts about their gender other than to make fun of actual trans people. Neither has taken hormones to suppress testosterone. Neither takes estrogen.

Now, the issue would be an actual, real issue if an actual trans female was a serious candidate to play in the WNBA. At that point,, the WNBA would need to make a decision. But that hasn't happened and most likely won't happen given the percentages and that there doesn't appear to be any trans players in women's NCAA basketball.

They are also unlikely to react to two washed up NBA players who are playing games as a publicity stunt.
 
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They aren`t making fun of trans people, Danny. They are making fun of the league`s hypocrisy, inability to define what a woman is and lack of willingness to stand up for girls who have been robbed of trophies, victories, spots on teams, etc., because biological males are allowed to compete against them. Not to mention them being allowed in locker rooms, etc.
 

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FWIW- neither player is a trans individual. Neither has expressed any doubts about their gender other than to make fun of actual trans people. Neither has taken hormones to suppress testosterone. Neither takes estrogen.

Now, the issue would be an actual, real issue if an actual trans female was a serious candidate to play in the WNBA. At that point,, the WNBA would need to make a decision. But that hasn't happened and most likely won't happen given the percentages and that there doesn't appear to be any trans players in women's NCAA basketball.

They are also unlikely to react to two washed up NBA players who are playing games as a publicity stunt.

So, YOU can determine who is Trans and who isn't? Wow. How convenient.
 

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Enes was on Laura Ingraham's show last night. She said she'd average 60 points and 40 rebounds per game. Says her goal is to score over 100 in a game.
 
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They aren`t making fun of trans people, Danny. They are making fun of the league`s hypocrisy, inability to define what a woman is and lack of willingness to stand up for girls who have been robbed of trophies, victories, spots on teams, etc., because biological males are allowed to compete against them. Not to mention them being allowed in locker rooms, etc.

I think everyone knows this. Even the people feigning ignorance.
 
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So, YOU can determine who is Trans and who isn't? Wow. How convenient.

Amazing how he gets to decide for other people, right? Convenient is the right word.

These brave young ladies are men who say they feel like a woman. That has always been enough for the liberals up until now. But put their convictions to the test, and they fold faster than an umbrella.
 

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FWIW- neither player is a trans individual. Neither has expressed any doubts about their gender other than to make fun of actual trans people. Neither has taken hormones to suppress testosterone. Neither takes estrogen.

Now, the issue would be an actual, real issue if an actual trans female was a serious candidate to play in the WNBA. At that point,, the WNBA would need to make a decision. But that hasn't happened and most likely won't happen given the percentages and that there doesn't appear to be any trans players in women's NCAA basketball.

They are also unlikely to react to two washed up NBA players who are playing games as a publicity stunt.

There is no such thing as a "trans woman". Individuals are either male or female, based on their chromosomes. These two men claim to be women when it comes to playing basketball. They don't need to provide any other evidence of their being female. No one demands any other men pretending to be women actually prove they are a woman. The left cannot even define what a woman is. How will they ever determine if someone is lying or not?

If men pretending to be women are truly believed to be "female", even if they are only "questioning" their gender (I think this is the "Q" in the alphabet soup used to describe the oddballs in the sexual spectrum), by the powers that be in the ?NBA, they should be allowed to play without having to take any drugs or hormones. To force them to take any medication to alter their physical bodies is to deny that they identify as a female in their natural body. This sort of hate will not be tolerated by the left.

If those two "washed up NBA players" ended up on the same ?NBA team, that team would win every game it played by 30 or more points.
 
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FWIW- neither player is a trans individual. Neither has expressed any doubts about their gender other than to make fun of actual trans people. Neither has taken hormones to suppress testosterone. Neither takes estrogen.

Now, the issue would be an actual, real issue if an actual trans female was a serious candidate to play in the WNBA. At that point,, the WNBA would need to make a decision. But that hasn't happened and most likely won't happen given the percentages and that there doesn't appear to be any trans players in women's NCAA basketball.

They are also unlikely to react to two washed up NBA players who are playing games as a publicity stunt.
No, no no no......No sir. No sir, no sir, no sir!!!

We were told, REPEATEDLY by you leftists that when a woman speaks....to do what??? Do you remember? - We were told to "believe them." - Remember??? (Yes, you remember)

I cannot believe you are publicly denigrating this WOMAN. - She identifies as a woman. She has publicly stated so. Based on everything liberals have told us..... *YOU* need to stop it with your obvious hatred towards women.
 

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No, no no no......No sir. No sir, no sir, no sir!!!

We were told, REPEATEDLY by you leftists that when a woman speaks....to do what??? Do you remember? - We were told to "believe them." - Remember??? (Yes, you remember)

I cannot believe you are publicly denigrating this WOMAN. - She identifies as a woman. She has publicly stated so. Based on everything liberals have told us..... *YOU* need to stop it with your obvious hatred towards women.

And this is pretty much the point t of it all. Make the radical libs actually live up to their own words.

Call me surprised that this guy fails to do so.
 
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So, YOU can determine who is Trans and who isn't? Wow. How convenient.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

But a trans person never includes a man who claims to be a woman solely for a political cause or to make a personal point just as a Clemson fan claiming to be a gamecock fan on this message board makes them a Gamecock fan.
 

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No, no no no......No sir. No sir, no sir, no sir!!!

We were told, REPEATEDLY by you leftists that when a woman speaks....to do what??? Do you remember? - We were told to "believe them." - Remember??? (Yes, you remember)

I cannot believe you are publicly denigrating this WOMAN. - She identifies as a woman. She has publicly stated so. Based on everything liberals have told us..... *YOU* need to stop it with your obvious hatred towards women.

I don't follow orders from random people. You shouldn't either.

Now, I do remember some people claiming that women who make sexual assault accusations must be listened to - and some people claimed they have to be believed. But of course, that's not true. You make judgements on what anyone says based on the evidence and likelihood that something makes sense and is true.

But I've never heard anyone claim that anyone claiming to be trans "has to be believed"

Sounds like you might be mixing up all these things you were told to do.
 

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There is no such thing as a "trans woman". Individuals are either male or female, based on their chromosomes.

for the 10 millionth time.

There are definitely transgendered people. This isn't new. They've been around for all of history. This was not questioned until the last few years.

People are either biological males or females, unless they have chromosome abnormalities. But of course, there are a small number of people who do not live their lives per societies view of how a biological male or female should act.

No one anywhere needs your approval of reality for it to be real.
 

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If men pretending to be women are truly believed to be "female", even if they are only "questioning" their gender (I think this is the "Q" in the alphabet soup used to describe the oddballs in the sexual spectrum), by the powers that be in the ?NBA, they should be allowed to play without having to take any drugs or hormones. To force them to take any medication to alter their physical bodies is to deny that they identify as a female in their natural body. This sort of hate will not be tolerated by the left.

If those two "washed up NBA players" ended up on the same ?NBA team, that team would win every game it played by 30 or more points.

I don't care what the WNBA chooses to do- or who they allow to play.

It doesn't matter to me at all- in any way. LOL
 

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for the 10 millionth time.

There are definitely transgendered people. This isn't new. They've been around for all of history. This was not questioned until the last few years.

People are either biological males or females, unless they have chromosome abnormalities. But of course, there are a small number of people who do not live their lives per societies view of how a biological male or female should act.

No one anywhere needs your approval of reality for it to be real.

No such thing. Fantasy.

There's 2 genders, and undesirable genetic mutations, and, or, just flat out mental illness.
 
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Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

But a trans person never includes a man who claims to be a woman solely for a political cause or to make a personal point just as a Clemson fan claiming to be a gamecock fan on this message board makes them a Gamecock fan.

Its so convenient that you get to decide who is and who isn't "trans".
 

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for the 10 millionth time.

There are definitely transgendered people. This isn't new. They've been around for all of history. This was not questioned until the last few years.

You misspelled "mentally ill". And its only been the last few years that some people decided to patronize them rather than treat them.
 

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No such thing. Fantasy.

There's 2 genders, and undesirable genetic mutations, and, or, just flat out mental illness.

There is - regardless of your opinion.

There are 2 sexes. Gender is an entirely different ballgame. That's why we have "sex" and "gender" as two different things. Personal experience would help you a lot. Absent that, it's almost impossible.
 

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Enes is a known trouble maker and his true beef is that he was eased out of the NBA before his time because he couldn't stop going on about Lebron's alleged steroid use and about the NBA's connections to China. He sees this as his way at getting back at the league and Adam Silver for no one picking him up in 2022 after he got waived by the Houston Rockets. The United States has been fighting Turkey's request for extradition since 2019 for supposed crimes he and his family committed over there. He and Royce White (mad at the NBA because they wouldn't make an accommodation for non-air travel) should be ashamed of themselves for taking their personal beefs with the NBA out on an affiliated female league that had nothing to do with their problems.
 
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Enes is a known trouble maker and his true beef is that he was eased out of the NBA before his time because he couldn't stop going on about Lebron's alleged steroid use and about the NBA's connections to China. He sees this as his way at getting back at the league and Adam Silver for no one picking him up in 2022 after he got waived by the Houston Rockets. The United States has been fighting Turkey's request for extradition since 2019 for supposed crimes he and his family committed over there. He and Royce White should be ashamed of themselves for taking their personal beefs with the NBA out on an affiliated female league that had nothing to do with their problems.

Good thing being "trans" isn't up to your dubious opinion.

Have you talked to a Dr yet?
 

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There is - regardless of your opinion.

There are 2 sexes. Gender is an entirely different ballgame. That's why we have "sex" and "gender" as two different things. Personal experience would help you a lot. Absent that, it's almost impossible.

You see, its just as easy to say there isn't, regardless of your opinion.

But good luck getting a fanatic to understand where facts end and opinions begin.
 

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There is - regardless of your opinion.

There are 2 sexes. Gender is an entirely different ballgame. That's why we have "sex" and "gender" as two different things. Personal experience would help you a lot. Absent that, it's almost impossible.
It's not an opinion. It's fact. Only male and female and genetic screw ups and severe mental illness.

I've blocked you. I'm not required to participate in your BS fantasies.
 

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Enes is a known trouble maker and his true beef is that he was eased out of the NBA before his time because he couldn't stop going on about Lebron's alleged steroid use and about the NBA's connections to China. He sees this as his way at getting back at the league and Adam Silver for no one picking him up in 2022 after he got waived by the Houston Rockets. The United States has been fighting Turkey's request for extradition since 2019 for supposed crimes he and his family committed over there. He and Royce White (mad at the NBA because they wouldn't make an accommodation for non-air travel) should be ashamed of themselves for taking their personal beefs with the NBA out on an affiliated female league that had nothing to do with their problems.

you have to give him credit. He's figured out how to stay relevant as a former player, get Fox News appearances (he's basically a hero on there from what I've read), and promote himself. He's great at it.
 
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for the 10 millionth time.

There are definitely transgendered people. This isn't new. They've been around for all of history. This was not questioned until the last few years.

People are either biological males or females, unless they have chromosome abnormalities. But of course, there are a small number of people who do not live their lives per societies view of how a biological male or female should act.

No one anywhere needs your approval of reality for it to be real.

Transvestites have been around for a long time. Until very recently, it was considered a mental illness. It should be considered so again.

There are people who live outside society's norms, always have been, the rest of society has never been expected to go along with their delusion until the last 5-10 years. Reality is reality, there is no personal concept of reality or any need of approval for reality that changes that. If I truly believe I am a walrus, that doesn't mean that I am a walrus in reality. No matter how many good intentioned people agree with me that I am a walrus, I am still not a walrus.
 
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Transvestites have been around for a long time. Until very recently, it was considered a mental illness. It should be considered so again.

There are people who live outside society's norms, always have been, the rest of society has never been expected to go along with their delusion until the last 5-10 years. Reality is reality, there is no personal concept of reality or any need of approval for reality that changes that. If I truly believe I am a walrus, that doesn't mean that I am a walrus in reality. No matter how many good intentioned people agree with me that I am a walrus, I am still not a walrus.

Being gay was considered mental illness until the 1970s. (I realize some of you folks still believe this).

In the 1990s if someone said gay marriage would be legal and mostly accepted by a majority of the country, you'd be accused of being nuts. People would have openly laughed at you in public.

Things change as people gain in understanding. History is full of uncomfortable ideas becoming more accepted and routine. Sometimes it takes a relatively short time. Sometimes it takes generations. Oh, not everyone accepts it. But many do- usually a majority at some point.

I remember being a kid and hearing people openly ridicule an interracial couple- calling it evil. Even heard it in church. I even remember some of my own family members saying very critical things about the idea. I still remember being in middle school and my favorite uncle thought I liked a black girl at my school. (I did, but I never told her or anyone). He kept telling me I needed to leave her alone so as not to cause people to ask questions. I always asked him "what questions?" - Took me awhile to figure out his concern. Things change (for most people). While a small percentage still thinks that way, most don't.

Trans people don't really live outside norms. at all. You might very well have worked with one or met one and never knew it- didn't occur to you- didn't bother you.

you aren't a walrus if you think you are one. There is a difference- a big one.

I realize you will never understand this. There are people like that and you are one. Such is life.
 
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for the 10 millionth time.

There are definitely transgendered people. This isn't new. They've been around for all of history. This was not questioned until the last few years.

People are either biological males or females, unless they have chromosome abnormalities. But of course, there are a small number of people who do not live their lives per societies view of how a biological male or female should act.

No one anywhere needs your approval of reality for it to be real.

There also people who claim to be cats, dogs and wolves.

My son once said he was a fire truck.

There was a guy on Dr. Phil who said he was a cyborg time traveler from the future.
 
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Trans people don't really live outside norms. at all.

This ranks right up there with "men can get pregnant".

The amount of brainwashing propaganda it took to get to this point is amazing.


you aren't a walrus if you think you are one. There is a difference- a big one.

There really isn't. You are right about being a walrus, your politics wont allow you to make that simple step to equating it to people.
 

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This ranks right up there with "men can get pregnant".

The amount of brainwashing propaganda it took to get to this point is amazing.




There really isn't. You are right about being a walrus, your politics wont allow you to make that simple step to equating it to people.

It's a legitimate point. Where do you draw the line and who draws it? About a decade ago there was a Canadian man who left his wife/family of 23 to publicly live as a 6 year old girl.

If we are going to say sure, you can decide you're a different gender than what you were born why not something else?
 
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