OT: Before you get excited about LeBron

[RUDivision]

Show the quote of him saying that lol. He won a NC against a zone lol

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/michael-jordan-pleaded-with-the-league-not-to-implement-the-zone

Sam Smith from the Chicago tribune has talked and written about as well.

I’m 50 and Jordan is a god! He just played in an unatheltic league and never against the athletes or defenses LeBron had to face. Pure basketball player it’s LeBron. Absolute killer it’s MJ

 

[RUDivision]

Then show me where he said it. It’s not rocket science lol. It’s five guys on a court. Sophisticated or not it’s way less physical.

NBA legends have said MJ would average 50 today.

LeBron would have been a unicorn in the 80’s and 90’s . He’s bigger stronger and faster than Michael. The guys beating up MJ that forced him into his lifting regime are smaller than LeBron. Lambier, Davis boys, etc are all smaller than LeBron.

Having LeBron run pick in roll against 4 smaller and slower forwards layers plus a center who can’t move their feet. On defense he could rest all game, with teams dribbling out the clock and dumping it inside.

 

[Caliknight]

https://www.basketballnetwork.net/old-school/michael-jordan-pleaded-with-the-league-not-to-implement-the-zone

Sam Smith from the Chicago tribune has talked and written about as well.

I’m 50 and Jordan is a god! He just played in an unatheltic league and never against the athletes or defenses LeBron had to face. Pure basketball player it’s LeBron. Absolute killer it’s MJ

So no one can provide an actual quote. Got it.

 

[Caliknight]

LeBron would have been a unicorn in the 80’s and 90’s . He’s bigger stronger and faster than Michael. The guys beating up MJ that forced him into his lifting regime are smaller than LeBron. Lambier, Davis boys, etc are all smaller than LeBron.

Having LeBron run pick in roll against 4 smaller and slower forwards layers plus a center who can’t move their feet. On defense he could rest all game, with teams dribbling out the clock and dumping it inside.

Lebron is soft. He would been crying for load management and have sat out with a hang nail. He doesn't have the killer gene. Kobe fully exposed that in the all star game. Was downhill after that.

 

[RUDivision]

So no one can provide an actual quote. Got it.

Just like Jordan retired for 2 years and wasn’t suspended!

Or.

We can’t talk about Jordan on Washington because that doesn’t count

Or

We can’t talk about Jordan before Scottie because we won Zero playoff series and. Couldn’t carry his team.

I get it! You’re a little kid mesmerized by your idol! All good

 

[RUDivision]

Lebron is soft. He would been crying for load management and have sat out with a hang nail. He doesn't have the killer gene. Kobe fully exposed that in the all star game. Was downhill after that.

Soft lol! He holds the record for consecutive finals appearances and minutes in the playoffs ! It’s ok

 

[RU0917]

I can't quit this thread, some non ball knowers telling on themselves over and over.

 

[RUDiddy777]

I’m not emotional about about any pro athlete. Ive seems both play live. It’s not even close. Dude got rolled with 2 HOfers by Dirk Nowitzki with the flu and has a losing record in NBA finals lol

You like floppers. I get why you love soccer so much

You like fluffers. I get why you like California so much.

 

[MADHAT1]

Career Minutes Comparison

• 
  
• • Michael Jordan: 38.3 minutes per game (regular season average across 15 seasons)
  • LeBron James: ~34.7 minutes per game (regular season average across his career)
  Jordan averaged 41.8 minutes per game across his 179 playoff appearances. By comparison, LeBron James has averaged 41.2 minutes per game in his 302 career playoff games.
• 
  
• While Jordan edge out the per-game average, LeBron's longevity allows him to hold a massive lead in total workload.

LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan: Head-to-Head Stats Comparison​

https://www.sports-reference.com/stathead/basketball/vs/lebron-james-vs-michael-jordan

 

[RUDiddy777]

Career Minutes Comparison

• 
  
• • Michael Jordan: 38.3 minutes per game (regular season average across 15 seasons)
  • LeBron James: ~34.7 minutes per game (regular season average across his career)
• Jordan averaged 41.8 minutes per game across his 179 playoff appearances. By comparison, LeBron James has averaged 41.2 minutes per game in his 302 career playoff games.
• 
  
• While Jordan edge out the per-game average, LeBron's longevity allows him to hold a massive lead in total workload.

LeBron James vs. Michael Jordan: Head-to-Head Stats Comparison​

https://www.sports-reference.com/stathead/basketball/vs/lebron-james-vs-michael-jordan

Id be curious how that compares if you remove Lebrons later years as well. Truly amazing what LeBron has been able to do when all of his contemporaries have been retired for a while (and some already in the HOF).

 

[MADHAT1]

Id be curious how that compares if you remove Lebrons later years as well. Truly amazing what LeBron has been able to do when all of his contemporaries have been retired for a while (and some already in the HOF).

googled
Comparing LeBron James's first 13 seasons in the NBA (2003–04 through 2015–16) to Michael Jordan’s first 13 seasons played for the Chicago Bulls (1984–85 through 1997–98, excluding his partial 1993–95 retirement) reveals two distinct peaks of dominance. Jordan averaged 31.5 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 5.4 assists per game, capturing 6 championships and 5 regular-season MVPs. LeBron averaged 27.2 points, 7.2 rebounds, and 6.9 assists per game, winning 3 championships and 4 regular-season MVPs.

 

[RUDiddy777]

googled
Comparing LeBron James's first 13 seasons in the NBA (2003–04 through 2015–16) to Michael Jordan’s first 13 seasons played for the Chicago Bulls (1984–85 through 1997–98, excluding his partial 1993–95 retirement) reveals two distinct peaks of dominance. Jordan averaged 31.5 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 5.4 assists per game, capturing 6 championships and 5 regular-season MVPs. LeBron averaged 27.2 points, 7.2 rebounds, and 6.9 assists per game, winning 3 championships and 4 regular-season MVPs.

Good stuff. Kind of shows how close they actually are. Was curious who won those mvps - bookended by KD, Steph (2x), and Kobe - with an interruption for DRoses ridiculous season before injuries crippled his career.

 

[Caliknight]

LeFlop 22-33 in NBA finals.
MJ 24-11 in NBA Finals.

Jordan was way better when it mattered most. Winner. LeFlop just doesn’t have that gene.

 

[RUDivision]

LeFlop 22-33 in NBA finals.
MJ 24-11 in NBA Finals.

Jordan was way better when it mattered most. Winner. LeFlop just doesn’t have that gene.

MJ 1-9 in the playoffs with out Scottie. Never beat anyone. Thank god for his super team and Scottie

 

[Nycrusupporter]

MJ 1-9 in the playoffs with out Scottie. Never beat anyone. Thank god for his super team and Scottie

And LeBron’s Cleveland championship would have never happened without Kyrie Irving, who was the guy taking all the big shots when games were on the line . . .

 

[RUDivision]

And LeBron’s Cleveland championship would have never happened without Kyrie Irving, who was the guy taking all the big shots when games were on the line . . .

Like John Paxton and Steve Kerr? LeBron has won with multiple number 2 guys .

Jordan couldn’t win a playoff series with out Scottie let alone get to a finals. Jordan was a killer on a great team but could never carry a bunch of bums like Bron.

 

[Caliknight]

LeBum got torched by a sick Dirk Nowitzki playing with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosch lol

MJ would have never lost a game with that lineup.

 

[RUDiddy777]

LeBum got torched by a sick Dirk Nowitzki playing with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosch lol

MJ would have never lost a game with that lineup.

Michael had a way better defensive team around him.

 

[seansherm]

Can't believe this convo still going, but curiosity got me looking into each's first playoff games ever.
Jordan wasn't his teams leading scorer (Quinton Dailey) and lost to a team led by Pat Cummings and Sidney Moncrief (good players). Jordan shot 7-19 w 10 assts.
Lebron had a triple double 32,11,11 and won against a team led by Gilbert Arena, Caron Butler, and Antwan Jamison. Zydrunas Ilgauskas was probably his top teammate.
Man, they both had some sorry teams off the bat.

 

[Caliknight]

Michael had a way better defensive team around him.

Except he was the best defender on the team. LeFlop gets scored on at will. Ole!