U.S. measles cases, now harder to extinguish, near a record high

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Let’s say that was true (it’s not). It’s already been proven that Hispanic immigrants are vaccinated. As such they cannot be the source of a measles breakout

Assuming this was true (it’s not) why support the side that wants minorities out of Ivy League schools? If you’re going to keep up a lie you need to at least be consistent
Why do you just make things up endlessly lol
 

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Come on youre smarter than that. RFKs agenda from day 1 was always anti vax and scared people. It is no doubt 100% the cause of the increase in lack of vaccination and measles cases on the rise
well call me naive, but when a parent, who supposedly loves their child, gets advice from their doctor to get a specific vaccine says "no thanks" RFK Jr is concerned about vaccines, defers to RFK, they have no one to blame but themselves.

And, I'd submit for consideration, that if most of these "man on the street" interviews have any merit, a majority of Americans have no idea who RFK Jr is, what the HHS is or what either have said about vaccines.
 
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You're just saying it, you're not proving it. But think about this nugget Scummy. The American kids who came down with measles weren't vaccinated. There's your smoking gun right there dumba.ss
dpic, you might know.....back in our day, before you could go to school you had to have a "basic load" of vaccinations, measles had to be one of those. Have we gotten away from that requirement?
 
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Think about what led to this ned

Misinformation and Hesitancy: Diminishing trust in public health has led to a rise in vaccine refusal and philosophical exemptions. Many cite debunked fears about side effects (such as autism) or incorrectly believe that the vaccine overwhelms a young child's immune system
yea I believe this as well. I come back to my basic thought (and I might well be wrong) we did not distinguish ourselves in how we handled information about the COVID vaccine. There was lots of misinformation and that caused some trust issues with our entire health system...that's number 1.

Number 2 is that the Trump administration, specifically RFK Jr has added to the uncertainty with his autism/vaccination tie in....so proven vaccines like measles/polio get caught in the same conversation.

It might take some time to get over the vaccination scares
 

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dpic, you might know.....back in our day, before you could go to school you had to have a "basic load" of vaccinations, measles had to be one of those. Have we gotten away from that requirement?
From what I understand, it's mostly parents asking for religious exemptions. Which makes no sense but here we are....
 

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That's really sad because you have no reason to distrust it unless you only listen to non-scientists with a political agenda. And you're supposed to be one of the rational ones.
I'm sure you're right...but so far, I "trusted the science" as I was told to do, got my shots, then got COVID, the was told if I got the shot I wouldn't get COVID and couldn't pass it on..etc....anyway I'm a little gun shy. I'll probably get over it as I do believe the mRNA vaccines are the future
 

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yea I believe this as well. I come back to my basic thought (and I might well be wrong) we did not distinguish ourselves in how we handled information about the COVID vaccine. There was lots of misinformation and that caused some trust issues with our entire health system...that's number 1.

Number 2 is that the Trump administration, specifically RFK Jr has added to the uncertainty with his autism/vaccination tie in....so proven vaccines like measles/polio get caught in the same conversation.

It might take some time to get over the vaccination scares
RFK Jr. is doing irreparable harm and even said the polio vaccine killed more people than it saved. Here's a perfect example of the brain rot caused by his vaccine lies.

 

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I'm sure you're right...but so far, I "trusted the science" as I was told to do, got my shots, then got COVID, the was told if I got the shot I wouldn't get COVID and couldn't pass it on..etc....anyway I'm a little gun shy. I'll probably get over it as I do believe the mRNA vaccines are the future
I don’t know any medical professional who said the covid shot was 100% protection against Covid. Biden said it, but he’s not a medical professional. There is indisputable evidence that the vaccine lessened symptoms and lowered transmission rates.
 

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I'm sure you're right...but so far, I "trusted the science" as I was told to do, got my shots, then got COVID, the was told if I got the shot I wouldn't get COVID and couldn't pass it on..etc....anyway I'm a little gun shy. I'll probably get over it as I do believe the mRNA vaccines are the future

There was only a comment or two that ever indicated that if you got the shot, you wouldn't get covid, and those comments were clarified/explained away very shortly thereafter.

You're espousing anti-vaxxer and MAGAt-opportunist propaganda.

All reasonable people understood, even after those comments ... and even if those comments hadn't been immediately walked back/clarified ... that any vaccine wasn't going to be 100% effective. It's just that people used those comments, out of context, to promote their agendas ... and you, apparently, fell for it.

The problem you're facing, in faux-trying to be "see all sides" is that one side, while flawed, tries to live in reality ... and the other side has stated they're just living in an alternative reality ... so you're going "halfsies" between reasonable and crazy ... which means you end up crazy.
 

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I don’t know any medical professional who said the covid shot was 100% protection against Covid. Biden said it, but he’s not a medical professional. There is indisputable evidence that the vaccine lessened symptoms and lowered transmission rates.
Well, I didn't say that the vaccine lessened symptoms and lowered transmission rates. On that I agree 100%.

But, a medical professional told us to trust the science etc...and it turnout the science should not have been trusted.

I don't want this to go in a different direction to re litigate COVID. My only point was that what the government and it's surrogates told us was not accurate. I'm not even saying they lied to us, only that what they told us was not accurate. And, IMO, that is one of the reasons people - maybe even only those on the right - have a somewhat jaded opinion of what validity there is to vaccines.

I'm older generation. We had to get vaccines before we could go to school... I can't remember them all, but I'm pretty sure that measles was one....I can even remember when the polio vaccine was released and my parents took all of us, stood in line to get it. That one is also proven, and had a much better results than COVID.

I don't understand why any parent would not get the children vaccinated with the proven vaccines like measles...

EDIT: according to NedGPT: did Dr Fauci say that COVID vaccine provided protection against COVID? "Yes, Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly stated that the COVID-19 vaccination provides strong protection against severe illness, hospitalization, and death"....not 100% protection, I agree, but pretty definitive statements....and he is a medical professional
 
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Well, I didn't say that the vaccine lessened symptoms and lowered transmission rates. On that I agree 100%.

But, a medical professional told us to trust the science etc...and it turnout the science should not have been trusted.

I don't want this to go in a different direction to re litigate COVID. My only point was that what the government and it's surrogates told us was not accurate. I'm not even saying they lied to us, only that what they told us was not accurate. And, IMO, that is one of the reasons people - maybe even only those on the right - have a somewhat jaded opinion of what validity there is to vaccines.

I'm older generation. We had to get vaccines before we could go to school... I can't remember them all, but I'm pretty sure that measles was one....I can even remember when the polio vaccine was released and my parents took all of us, stood in line to get it. That one is also proven, and had a much better results than COVID.

I don't understand why any parent would not get the children vaccinated with the proven vaccines like measles...

EDIT: according to NedGPT: did Dr Fauci say that COVID vaccine provided protection against COVID? "Yes, Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly stated that the COVID-19 vaccination provides strong protection against severe illness, hospitalization, and death"....not 100% protection, I agree, but pretty definitive statements....and he is a medical professional
And he was correct...where is the disconnect? It did provide strong protection against severe illness, hospitalization, and death...it's indisputable. Why are you saying the science shouldn't have been trusted? What was incorrect about the science? You said it yourself the vaccine lessened symptoms and lowered transmission rates - is that not part of what Fauci said?

I mean, this whole thing is such a clusterfuck because people are stupid and don't understand the scientific process. As the virus mutated, the original vaccine's efficacy lessened - hence the boosters. Medical leaders made tons of assumptions when dealing with COVID when it first popped up, and since it was a novel virus they went with a broad range of precautions. Some of those precautions ended up not being necessary, as they learned more about the virus and its transmission, but that doesn't mean the science shouldn't be trusted. The scientific process literally did its job and Americans are too stupid and selfish to realize it.
 

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And he was correct...where is the disconnect? It did provide strong protection against severe illness, hospitalization, and death...it's indisputable. Why are you saying the science shouldn't have been trusted? What was incorrect about the science? You said it yourself the vaccine lessened symptoms and lowered transmission rates - is that not part of what Fauci said?

I mean, this whole thing is such a clusterfuck because people are stupid and don't understand the scientific process. As the virus mutated, the original vaccine's efficacy lessened - hence the boosters. Medical leaders made tons of assumptions when dealing with COVID when it first popped up, and since it was a novel virus they went with a broad range of precautions. Some of those precautions ended up not being necessary, as they learned more about the virus and its transmission, but that doesn't mean the science shouldn't be trusted. The scientific process literally did its job and Americans are too stupid and selfish to realize it.
on the statement americans are stupid I agree 100% And the fact the the entire thing was a cluster**** I also agree 100%......but, you can' t have the president and all the spokespeople for the administration tell the people that the vaccine stops the virus, then fire 1000s of government for refusing to take the vaccine, then later say "oops we were wrong" without some or a lot of people questioning the motives.
 

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on the statement americans are stupid I agree 100% And the fact the the entire thing was a cluster**** I also agree 100%......but, you can' t have the president and all the spokespeople for the administration tell the people that the vaccine stops the virus, then fire 1000s of government for refusing to take the vaccine, then later say "oops we were wrong" without some or a lot of people questioning the motives.

Biden's misstatement, which was quickly corrected, was a largely isolated instance. And everyone knew what he really meant to convey when he first said it, regardless.

Meanwhile, your Orange Fuhrer says more incorrect things on a daily basis, and then doubles and triples down on them, with no one in or around his administration ever daring to correct him or clarify his messaging ... and his sycophants adopt these lies and inaccuracies as their new reality rather than question their veracity ... and, according to the self-proclaimed "reasonable" people who support MAGA, this is OK, and you can still trust him, because you agree with his policies.

Sorry, ned, but this special needs dog won't hunt. And you're doing absolutely nothing here, except empowering the crazies on the other side of the aisle by perpetuating this faux wrong that you faux suffered.
 

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I’m sure the illegal Covid vaccine mandate forcing healthy adults and children to get an experimental vaccine has nothing to do with vaccine hesitancy today. Those two are completely unrelated for sure.
That's fine ... but we should be able to round up all the anti-vaxxers and the "vaccine hesitants" (i.e. anti-vaxxers who want to pretend they aren't crazy) in one wasteland of a state, and allow them to infect each other and die off "peacefully" so they don't infect the rest of the world - with their crazy or their other communicable diseases.
 
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That's fine ... but we should be able to round up all the anti-vaxxers and the "vaccine hesitants" (i.e. anti-vaxxers who want to pretend they aren't crazy) in one wasteland of a state, and allow them to infect each other and die off "peacefully" so they don't infect the rest of the world - with their crazy or their other communicable diseases.
Two people have died from measles this year and both are from Lancaster, PA. That's a pretty insignificant number.

As of August 20, 2026, the CDC had confirmed 2,777 measles cases for the year, spread across 47 jurisdictions, already surpassing the full-year 2025 total and marking the highest annual case count since 1991. And as of today, August 25, 2026, the death toll that had held at zero for the entire year has now moved: two people have died from measles in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
 

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Two people have died from measles this year and both are from Lancaster, PA. That's a pretty insignificant number.

As of August 20, 2026, the CDC had confirmed 2,777 measles cases for the year, spread across 47 jurisdictions, already surpassing the full-year 2025 total and marking the highest annual case count since 1991. And as of today, August 25, 2026, the death toll that had held at zero for the entire year has now moved: two people have died from measles in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
Disregarding the potential long term effects from having measles, it’s a complete own goal having measles make a resurgence in this country.
The amount of trans athletes playing in sports is also an insignificant number, yet that’s all republicans seem to care about these days. You’d think the “pro life” party would care more about people needlessly dying due to vaccine misinformation, but apparently not.
 

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Disregarding the potential long term effects from having measles, it’s a complete own goal having measles make a resurgence in this country.
The amount of trans athletes playing in sports is also an insignificant number, yet that’s all republicans seem to care about these days. You’d think the “pro life” party would care more about people needlessly dying due to vaccine misinformation, but apparently not.
I don't think there are many long term effects of having measles. I read that the biggest concern is pneumonia in children with weakened immune systems. Of course that doesn't mean I want a resurgence of measles. I'm just trying to put things in proper perspective.

Measles vaccines are required by every state in the country for children entering school. The CDC and RFK Jr also continue to recommend MMR vaccines. The only change is the timing but that's a recent thing that has absolutely nothing to do with the recent outbreak.

All it takes is a quick internet search to learn that measles started it's comeback in 2015 in California (Disneyland). In 2019, cases were reported in 23 states, and the total number of reported cases (764) reached the highest number in 25 years. I fail to understand how you can blame RFK Jr & the Trump administration when they weren't even in office. Everything doesn't have to be political.
 

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I don't think there are many long term effects of having measles. I read that the biggest concern is pneumonia in children with weakened immune systems. Of course that doesn't mean I want a resurgence of measles. I'm just trying to put things in proper perspective.

Measles vaccines are required by every state in the country for children entering school. The CDC and RFK Jr also continue to recommend MMR vaccines. The only change is the timing but that's a recent thing that has absolutely nothing to do with the recent outbreak.

All it takes is a quick internet search to learn that measles started it's comeback in 2015 in California (Disneyland). In 2019, cases were reported in 23 states, and the total number of reported cases (764) reached the highest number in 25 years. I fail to understand how you can blame RFK Jr & the Trump administration when they weren't even in office. Everything doesn't have to be political.
Well I’d look at the annual measles cases by year since 2015 and see that we jumped from 285 cases in 2024 to 2300 cases in 2025 and up to 2770 cases this far through 2026. What do you think lead to that ~900% jump? Could it be a known antivaxxer getting in charge of the HHS? Maybe, maybe not.

it’s not about them recommending MMR vaccine - it’s the overall vaccine skepticism he embodies and pushes.
 
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Well I’d look at the annual measles cases by year since 2015 and see that we jumped from 285 cases in 2024 to 2300 cases in 2025 and up to 2770 cases this far through 2026. What do you think lead to that ~900% jump? Could it be a known antivaxxer getting in charge of the HHS? Maybe, maybe not.

it’s not about them recommending MMR vaccine - it’s the overall vaccine skepticism he embodies and pushes.
I wonder why people got skiddish in the 2020’s about vaccines? Did something happen to cause that?
 
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I wonder why people got skiddish in the 2020’s about vaccines? Did something happen to cause that?
Clearly wasn't an issue before 2025. I guess people just weren't skittish from 2021 to 2024
  • 2021: 49 cases
  • 2022: 121 cases
  • 2023: 59 cases
  • 2024: 285 cases
  • 2025: 2,289 cases
 
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Two people have died from measles this year and both are from Lancaster, PA. That's a pretty insignificant number.

As of August 20, 2026, the CDC had confirmed 2,777 measles cases for the year, spread across 47 jurisdictions, already surpassing the full-year 2025 total and marking the highest annual case count since 1991. And as of today, August 25, 2026, the death toll that had held at zero for the entire year has now moved: two people have died from measles in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.

So, you're going to be one of the folks we round up? That's fine.
 

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Clearly wasn't an issue before 2025. I guess people just weren't skittish from 2021 to 2024
  • 2021: 49 cases
  • 2022: 121 cases
  • 2023: 59 cases
  • 2024: 285 cases
  • 2025: 2,289 cases
There’s a little more to it than that.

U.S. kindergarten MMR coverage was about 95.2% in 2019–20. It fell to roughly 94% in 2020–21, then ~93% in 2021–22, and has remained below 93% since. By 2024–25 it was 92.5%. That’s about a 2.7-percentage-point decline from the pre-COVID level.

And importantly, this wasn’t uniquely an MMR phenomenon. DTaP, polio and varicella vaccination declined too. That makes the initial decline look much more like a broad disruption to routine childhood vaccination rather than millions of parents simultaneously deciding specifically that MMR was bad.

CDC explicitly attributes part of the early decline to COVID-related disruptions in vaccination services, missed appointments, school closures, and problems documenting vaccination.

Nonmedical exemptions increased from 2.6% in 2021–22 → 3.0% in 2022–23 → 3.3% in 2023–24 → 3.6% in 2024–25. CDC says more than 90% of these exemptions are nonmedical.

The pandemic damaged trust in health institutions for some portion of the population, and there is evidence that vaccine hesitancy increased afterward.
 
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well call me naive, but when a parent, who supposedly loves their child, gets advice from their doctor to get a specific vaccine says "no thanks" RFK Jr is concerned about vaccines, defers to RFK, they have no one to blame but themselves.

And, I'd submit for consideration, that if most of these "man on the street" interviews have any merit, a majority of Americans have no idea who RFK Jr is, what the HHS is or what either have said about vaccines.
I SORT of agree with this, but RFK is the Secretary of Health and Human Services. That's pretty much the top health guy in the country. Now most of us know this guy's background and that he's pretty much an *** clown that Trump appointed to degrade confidence in the US Government. BUT in theory, this IS the guy that is the mouthpiece for the US on vaccines. So following is recomendations SHOULD be the way to go. So it's not unreasonable to follow his advice especially if the "man on the street" doesn't have any idea who he is. The assumption would be that this guy is a medical expert.
 
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There’s a little more to it than that.

U.S. kindergarten MMR coverage was about 95.2% in 2019–20. It fell to roughly 94% in 2020–21, then ~93% in 2021–22, and has remained below 93% since. By 2024–25 it was 92.5%. That’s about a 2.7-percentage-point decline from the pre-COVID level.

And importantly, this wasn’t uniquely an MMR phenomenon. DTaP, polio and varicella vaccination declined too. That makes the initial decline look much more like a broad disruption to routine childhood vaccination rather than millions of parents simultaneously deciding specifically that MMR was bad.

CDC explicitly attributes part of the early decline to COVID-related disruptions in vaccination services, missed appointments, school closures, and problems documenting vaccination.

Nonmedical exemptions increased from 2.6% in 2021–22 → 3.0% in 2022–23 → 3.3% in 2023–24 → 3.6% in 2024–25. CDC says more than 90% of these exemptions are nonmedical.

The pandemic damaged trust in health institutions for some portion of the population, and there is evidence that vaccine hesitancy increased afterward.
was it "the pandemic" or an entire political movement undercutting and dismissing concerns from the start?

no different than confidence in our election security...the people who have been screaming about it for 5 years now get to point out that some people believed them, while ignoring their own role in the process
 
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