Culture Matters

Truewooper

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You simply cannot let the inmates run the place. I don't care who the player is. He should be gone. No exceptions. A HC and position coach should demand excellence and if attitude or effort are an issue then kick some arse and get rid of the problem. How can you have any kind of standard with that going on? This, if true, speaks to a larger cultural issue. But at the same time, there has to be communication both ways from the players through the position coaches. Players get down if they know a system will not work. The 3-3-5 sucked ***. Period. And why and how it took Ruhle 3 years to figure that out....well....you wonder.
2023 Rush D: 7th, Rushing 1st downs rushed allowed 7th. 2024: Rush D 7th. 1st Down rushes allowed: 1st. 3-3-5. Didn't suck it worked wonders. Matt Rhule tried to get his little fingers in it after it was successful in 2023. Now it sucked when Butler ran it. Butler was a bad DC who'd never run a 3-3-5 defense.

Essentially Matt Rhule tried to have Steve Spurrier run Tom Osborne's offense. It was never going to work.
 

PTHUSKER

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1:52 am and you were posting in multiple threads on the HUSKER board. You are a sad sad human being. Seeking professional help for your mental health issues would be wise. Laying off the meth might help too.
Well to be fair it’s hard for him to sleep on all the meth and he’s waiting for his turn with his sister when his brother Cletus is done with her
 
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Maui-Wowi

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Our current culture has transitioned to the point that the only thing that still resembles Nebraska Football is the color of our uniforms.

Every year they take away a little more and give us reasons why we can’t carry on what made us successful for decades and every year more and more people buy into it.

There’s a whole list of BS excuses that never ends…the latest excuse is NIL.

Since we’re enabling them, I guess you can’t blame em. Why would you strive to get better if you can still sell out the stadium with a crap product?

Must be nice to be able to run a business, not be successful and still get paid the same.
 

davecisar

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Our current culture has transitioned to the point that the only thing that still resembles Nebraska Football is the color of our uniforms.

Every year they take away a little more and give us reasons why we can’t carry on what made us successful for decades and every year more and more people buy into it.

There’s a whole list of BS excuses that never ends…the latest excuse is NIL.

Since we’re enabling them, I guess you can’t blame em. Why would you strive to get better if you can still sell out the stadium with a crap product?

Must be nice to be able to run a business, not be successful and still get paid the same.
It’s like that in academics here. USA is 4th in world in per capita education spending. Yet by most metrics our academic outcomes are 30/50 ish. Little accountability in that world and mountains of bloat and spending. Public universities are the epitome of bloat, over spending, over paying and lacking of accountability.
 
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steinek11

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Our current culture has transitioned to the point that the only thing that still resembles Nebraska Football is the color of our uniforms.

Every year they take away a little more and give us reasons why we can’t carry on what made us successful for decades and every year more and more people buy into it.

There’s a whole list of BS excuses that never ends…the latest excuse is NIL.

Since we’re enabling them, I guess you can’t blame em. Why would you strive to get better if you can still sell out the stadium with a crap product?

Must be nice to be able to run a business, not be successful and still get paid the same.
In simplest terms, we don’t have a lot of talent in our backyard. We have to be able to find and retain talent. In the era of NIL, you are paying for it. Most of these kids are smart enough to know they will not go onto the NFL, so maximize the next four years.
 
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dinglefritz

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Our current culture has transitioned to the point that the only thing that still resembles Nebraska Football is the color of our uniforms.

Every year they take away a little more and give us reasons why we can’t carry on what made us successful for decades and every year more and more people buy into it.

There’s a whole list of BS excuses that never ends…the latest excuse is NIL.

Since we’re enabling them, I guess you can’t blame em. Why would you strive to get better if you can still sell out the stadium with a crap product?

Must be nice to be able to run a business, not be successful and still get paid the same.
Nebraska football as you kids knew it. I grew up listening to Tagge, Ferragamo, Van Brownson and Humm chuck it to guys like Guy Ingalls and Frosty Anderson. Tom was a WCO guy to start out and they won a ton of games that way.
 
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Macho Man

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"I'll let the players decide," Rhule said. "They'll have to decide their leadership. They can either make it a popularity contest, or they can make it a 'hey, who's really about it.' I hope they make good decisions."

Rhule from today
My word Rhule is worthless 😂 We’d be better off just paying him to stay home.
 
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OxfordComma

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Following the big 12 championship in Kansas city where we filled the stadium in -10 degree weather he was all in. He was blown away by fan support and really thought, like the rest of us, that 2007 would be special. We were top 10 at one point, had a top 5 recruiting class, and one of the biggest marquee games of the decade at home against USC. Obviously a paper tiger but the collapse came so fast I don't buy he was looking to get out...compare that to Frost, Rhule who were/are just hanging on out of greed, and Bo who openly asked to be fired and publicly **** on fans.
I agree with this. Pelini and Frost both wanted out well before the end came. Rhule is trending the same way. All with a sense that this is a dead team walking for the last season or two and we have to put up with it for some reason. That was not the case with Cally. There was hype and hope until it rapidly vaporized.

For Bo, we held on because we didn’t want to fire a 9 win coach no matter how toxic he was. For Frost, we held on because he was the former golden boy and the sense of despair if he couldn’t have success here. For Rhule, we are holding on because we gave him too much money over too many years. Riley was just somebody that should have never been hired. Eichorst was such a dumb ***.
 
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dinglefritz

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I agree with this. Pelini and Frost both wanted out well before the end came. Rhule is trending the same way. All with a sense that this is a dead team walking for the last season or two and we have to put up with it for some reason. That was not the case with Cally. There was hype and hope until it rapidly vaporized.

For Bo, we held on because we didn’t want to fire a 9 win coach no matter how toxic he was. For Frost, we held on because he was the former golden boy and the sense of despair if he couldn’t have success here. For Rhule, we are holding on because we gave him too much money over too many years. Riley was just somebody that should have never been hired. Eichorst was such a dumb ***.
Let’s see. I can keep working 80 hours/week to get paid 10 million per year OR I can get fired and get a 80 million payday and retire to Florida.
 

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Sevenlazy7

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Hard to build a culture when you're swapping coaches every 3-4 years 🤷‍♂️
What kind of culture have we built the last decade or more. What I see is a culture of not developing players, poor coach evaluation when it comes to putting together a staff, overpaying for mediocrity, overpromising and underdelivering, and miraculously continuing to not choke to death on the balls of the 90s.
 
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Malzahn turned around Auburn immediately (from 3-9 to 12-2), DeBoer did it at UW (From 4-8 to 11-2) Sonny Dykes at TCU went from 5-7 to 13-2. Cignetti's is unparalleled but quick turnarounds (within 1-3 years) are much easier these days with the portal and transfer rules.
Auburn received 13 transfers from USF this offseason. Penn State recorded 23 players from Iowa State this offseason. We act like receiving a bunch of players from the portal is the answer and I entirely disagree. Auburn is essentially USF this year now.. USF is mid. But because they’re wearing an Auburn uniform and their transfers they’ll magically be awesome. Teams may have had some quick success early on with this strategy but as things normalize and this whole thing develops we will see the roster turnover through the portal every season is not the answer.
 
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orclover11

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as evidenced by the 1 team/coach to ever do that ever in the history of football and now it’s the expectation
Saban and Carroll won big by year 2, Harbaugh won 10 games by year 2... the reality is we know within 2 years if the thing is going to work or not. With NIL and the transfer portal Coach contracts should be 1 or 2 years with heavy incentives but agents would never let that happen. Any school that tried that would be blacklisted from the next pool of available coaches...only schools like Indiana was could even try a no name on a responsible contract.
 

orclover11

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Auburn received 13 transfers from USF this offseason. Penn State recorded 23 players from Iowa State this offseason. We act like receiving a bunch of players from the portal is the answer and I entirely disagree. Auburn is essentially USF this year now.. USF is mid. But because they’re wearing an Auburn uniform and their transfers they’ll magically be awesome. Teams may have had some quick success early on with this strategy but as things normalize and this whole thing develops we will see the roster turnover through the portal every season is not the answer.
And Indiana was James Madison when they made the college football playoff. Winning now is so much about roster design and getting the specific players to meet that design. Cignetti identified a specific type of body and person...flexible hips, aggressive, intelligent...heavy RPO qb, massive offensive line and physical running. And he pushed the kids into the ground because he didn't give a **** at JM or Indiana if there was push back. Rhule did the opposite...put together a frankestein where entire position groups just fell apart and he wants the kids to feel loved, and positive, and become leaders or not.
 

orclover11

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"If you guys fire me tomorrow, I'm just going to go back to Cape May and sit on the beach….”

- Matt Rhule, July 2025
"obsessive lip licking reveals signs of extensive misery and depression"
"rats in study who lick their lips repeatedly over many minutes and hours show signs of being blown out by Iowa"


-science study
 
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You simply cannot let the inmates run the place. I don't care who the player is. He should be gone. No exceptions. A HC and position coach should demand excellence and if attitude or effort are an issue then kick some arse and get rid of the problem. How can you have any kind of standard with that going on? This, if true, speaks to a larger cultural issue. But at the same time, there has to be communication both ways from the players through the position coaches. Players get down if they know a system will not work. The 3-3-5 sucked ***. Period. And why and how it took Ruhle 3 years to figure that out....well....you wonder.
The 3-3-5 gave us 2 of our best defenses of the last 20 years, and took players with no sacks and TFLs in their career and moved the unit to the upper tier of our conference......It didnt falter until Rhule decided that they need to run quarters coverage like Iowa, so he started meddling in Tony Whites scheme and hired a 55 year old NFL defensive backs coach who hadn't worked with an amateur athlete or called a defense in 15 years.

Rhule ruined the defense and micro managed 2 DCs out of town in the process.
 

orclover11

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Well. He’s not wrong. One way or another he’ll end up getting a total of 100 million or so. At least he’s paying some income tax back to the state
I mean he could use the money to buy distractions from the fact he was a huge loser, and will be known as a huge loser in his community. How long can you sit on a sandy beach knowing you are a loser and not be bothered? For 99,9999% of human history humans didn't perform services to get rich, we are packaged to gain meaning from our jobs not just scam everybody. The worse thing that could happen to him is to walk away being overpaid while being hated for it, and being known as a loser. Bo is still a crotchety old man who lives in the past and holds grudges, Frost doesn't look healthy or happy, Riley went and tried to have one more adventure...for his sake I hope Rhule moves on and finds some success in genuine/authentic way and leaves the scamming behind. It has become him.
 
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Saban and Carroll won big by year 2, Harbaugh won 10 games by year 2... the reality is we know within 2 years if the thing is going to work or not. With NIL and the transfer portal Coach contracts should be 1 or 2 years with heavy incentives but agents would never let that happen. Any school that tried that would be blacklisted from the next pool of available coaches...only schools like Indiana was could even try a no name on a responsible contract.
We were ready to can Hoiberg
 

Man Woman & Child

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We were ready to can Hoiberg

Okay, now list all the coaches who didn't do that.

It's been talked to death on this site, but using one extreme outlier apples to oranges exception as an example doesn't prove anything. Basketball and football are two vastly different things. Not to mention the fact that Hoiberg's one-off "successful" season was largely overrated.
 

Walleye 1

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Okay, now list all the coaches who didn't do that.

It's been talked to death on this site, but using one extreme outlier apples to oranges exception as an example doesn't prove anything. Basketball and football are two vastly different things. Not to mention the fact that Hoiberg's one-off "successful" season was largely overrated.
How was that largely overrated. What a complete dumbass post. I agree a comparison with Hoiberg and Rhule makes zero sense and is dumb. But calling last years basketball season overrated is even more retarded than trying to make a comparison of Hoiberg and Rhule.
 

Man Woman & Child

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How was that largely overrated. What a complete dumbass post. I agree a comparison with Hoiberg and Rhule makes zero sense and is dumb. But calling last years basketball season overrated is even more retarded than trying to make a comparison of Hoiberg and Rhule.

Okay largely overrated may be too strong of a term. But we definitely benefited from a favorable draw in the tourney (and some scheduling throughout the year) then choked pretty bad.
 
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Macho Man

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We were ready to can Hoiberg
Show me one example in FOOTBALL of a coach with the resume and trajectory of Rhule that turned out to win big. One who gets outcoached nearly every game, can’t develope talent and has to change out assistant coaches every offseason. Then magically turned into a winner lol
 
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BigRedTed

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It’s like that in academics here. USA is 4th in world in per capita education spending. Yet by most metrics our academic outcomes are 30/50 ish. Little accountability in that world and mountains of bloat and spending. Public universities are the epitome of bloat, over spending, over paying and lacking of accountability.
 

orclover11

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We were ready to can Hoiberg
Nobody cared about Nebraska basketball...it was the worst power 4 program in the country for its existence by a mile. Hoiberg has been paid nearly 30 million. Last year, the team ran a very unique offensive and defensive system...but they ended the season basically playing .500 ball once teams figured out how to defend them...and they won two tournament games. Was it cool? Sure...should a guy given 30 million take a victory lap for beating Troy and Vanderbilt in the NCAA tourney, while screwing in up the final minutes of a chance to beat IOWA to go to the elite 8...probably not.

We will see if he can sustain it, it would be neat to make the tourney every year and it was neat to finally win a game in the tourney and not be the most pathetic program in history, but I am not sure it has that much to do with the coach and more to do with, it had to happen eventually.
 

RoryMurray

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Nobody cared about Nebraska basketball...it was the worst power 4 program in the country for its existence by a mile. Hoiberg has been paid nearly 30 million. Last year, the team ran a very unique offensive and defensive system...but they ended the season basically playing .500 ball once teams figured out how to defend them...and they won two tournament games. Was it cool? Sure...should a guy given 30 million take a victory lap for beating Troy and Vanderbilt in the NCAA tourney, while screwing in up the final minutes of a chance to beat IOWA to go to the elite 8...probably not.

We will see if he can sustain it, it would be neat to make the tourney every year and it was neat to finally win a game in the tourney and not be the most pathetic program in history, but I am not sure it has that much to do with the coach and more to do with, it had to happen eventually.
You really are a miserable human being.
 

orclover11

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You really are a miserable human being.
You don't seem to understand the point of a message board...are you going to have a discussion or just judge people like an old woman. Can you point out something wrong with my argument that paying a guy 30 million to win two tournament games isn't worth of a victory lap? Losing in the sweet 16 to Iowa is similar to winning the Holiday Bowl. You finish somewhere in the top 20, nobody really cares.
 
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RoryMurray

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Some of us live in reality. Others like to lie to themselves and each other. Probably to compensate for…something. Which is more miserable?
I don’t understand what you’re trying to say.

Orc apparently couldn’t even find joy in the best basketball season the Huskers have ever experienced, dwelling on the losses at the end of the schedule and losing to Iowa in the Sweet 16. He’s clearly a half glass empty type.
 

RoryMurray

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You don't seem to understand the point of a message board...are you going to have a discussion or just judge people like an old woman. Can you point out something wrong with my argument that paying a guy 30 million to win two tournament games isn't worth of a victory lap? Losing in the sweet 16 to Iowa is similar to winning the Holiday Bowl. You finish somewhere in the top 20, nobody really cares.
Yet, it’s literally an accomplishment never been done at Nebraska. It’s going to act as a springboard for the basketball program moving forward.
 

orclover11

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Yet, it’s literally an accomplishment never been done at Nebraska. It’s going to act as a springboard for the basketball program moving forward.
But it is an accomplishment that had been done by every other team in the same competitive division before us. It was cool, and more of a relief for the guys to just get it done considering we were the last to do it. I am responding to fans acting like we have to keep a shiite football coach because our basketball coach did something every other team had done before us. Not to be crass but it is like a guy in his 50s losing their virginity and then walking around like he is an experienced Don Juan. Good for him, you have a long ways to go, and nobody really cares.
I am not necessarily meaning to belittle it, just put it in proper context.
 

steinek11

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Show me one example in FOOTBALL of a coach with the resume and trajectory of Rhule that turned out to win big. One who gets outcoached nearly every game, can’t develope talent and has to change out assistant coaches every offseason. Then magically turned into a winner lol
It’s not gonna happen. He’s pretty good at several aspects of running and building a program, but he can’t coach for shitt.
 

king_kong__

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Our sweet 16 run was awesome

Anyone who disagrees has poop in their pants

Fred is the exception, not the [Preacher] Rhule
 
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