Should this high school coach have been fired ?
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I am all about hard coaching, but if that was my kid I would jump the fence and beat his ***. Then hope he got fired.
What other realistic ending would there even be?
Look like a LeBron flop but if that's a firable offense nowadays, my coaches would've gone to prison.
I’m kinda over violent coaching. Yeah, there are plenty of successful coaches who can’t control themselves, but there are plenty of others who prove it’s not a necessity.
You can clearly communicate expectations and coach softness out of players without being a complete prick.
You can clearly communicate expectations and coach softness out of players without being a complete prick.
I could see this going either way, a firing or a suspension. It doesn't read to me that his intent was "I'm going to try and injure this player," but he clearly was not in control of himself either.
There are a lot of facts here that we are not presented with. Is this an isolated event, the first sign of trouble after 20 years of coaching? Or is this guy a serial offender with multiple prior suspensions?
There are a lot of facts here that we are not presented with. Is this an isolated event, the first sign of trouble after 20 years of coaching? Or is this guy a serial offender with multiple prior suspensions?
Too bad Saban retired. This coach could have finished the season as an Alabama analyst. If he's a winner, maybe Ole Miss will take him on.
Should either be fired OR give the kid a free one timer like this to pay him back. Then they shake hands and move on......
He doesn’t need to be coaching kids.
This looks like an unbelievably important game and perhaps the most important game in the lives of everyone involved. You have to take that into account and understand how the coach and the entire team had their lives ruined forever because of that player's mistake. It's a teachable moment. That's how you teach a kid a lesson about making a mistake and you turn him into a man who gets mad when a high school kid doesn't meet the standards and expectations of a responsible, mature adult male high school football coach.
I mean fire his a$$. What a douche of a grown-a$$ man who can't control his emotions.
I mean fire his a$$. What a douche of a grown-a$$ man who can't control his emotions.
Iff he shows one iota of compassion and goes to take care of the kid and tell him how sorry he is he doesn’t lose his job.
As stated above, he has no business coaching kids.
As stated above, he has no business coaching kids.
He threw a pissy little temper tantrum and hurt a kid. Thats not tough coaching thats being an idiot with poor self control. Gotta fire him.
“Intent” doesn’t matter. What you did is what matters. You either intended to do it or couldn’t control yourself enough not to do it. If I randomly fire a gun in a crowd & the bullet accidentally goes someone, you can bet my *** is going to jail.
I guess I’m just old school. My coach in SOFL taught Woody Hays how to grab face masks and ear hole helmets. If you didn’t want it to happen again, you didn’t 17 up again
The comments on some of the posts on social media defending the coach because “we need to be real men” and “wussification of America” drive me crazy. This isn’t how a real man acts. This is how a baby throwing a temper tantrum acts. As somebody earlier in this thread said, there is a way to coach your players hard without resorting to throwing temper tantrums and acting like an unruly toddler.
The question though is should he have been fired ?
1) a leather air filled sack is not a deadly weapon
2) he could not have kicked the ball in anger and hit the kid in the groin if you gave him 1000 more tries, so I doubt that was his intention
it is wrong behavior and he should get chewed out by the AD and have to apologize to the kid and team, i Agree.
i played HS football in the 80s and this was common place coach goes nuts behavior. I ran a wrong pass pattern, a curl, and our 250 pound HC went nuts and when I wasn’t looking threw me to the ground. I had a helmet and pads on, was surprised but not upset. We laughed about it later. I never even considered telling my parents or filing a complaint.
I played football in the 80’s too. And there’s plenty of **** coaches did then that was accepted that shouldn’t have been.
To me it’s a matter of improving the experience of playing sports for the players and that **** just isn’t necessary and should be discouraged. Maybe getting your azz fired a couple of times will drill home “maybe I could change a few things”.
If you wanna be a hard *** then the consequences of a mistake may be hard too.
To me it’s a matter of improving the experience of playing sports for the players and that **** just isn’t necessary and should be discouraged. Maybe getting your azz fired a couple of times will drill home “maybe I could change a few things”.
If you wanna be a hard *** then the consequences of a mistake may be hard too.
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Our coach had a paddle he called 'The Reminder'. He ear-holed you with it with just enough force to correct you if the first lick on the butt didn't take. Good times.......good times.
There are a lot of things that were acceptable 40-50 years ago that are not acceptable today, nor should they be. I think if the coach showed some compassion after he kicked the ball in the player’s groin, then he might’ve saved his job. He should’ve run over there and helped tend to the kid and apologize right then. If he had, maybe he just gets suspended for a while. Instead, he stormed away and showed no remorse at all. A “man” like that shouldn’t be teaching children. I have no problem with his firing.
That’s my opinion also, we don’t have enough information. He could be a good guy who really cares about his players and no history of being out of control, or he could be a real @hole who deserves to get canned.
My experience tells me this coach has lost his mind many times before.
My high school coach lost hisshit 3 times a practice. He thought he’d run the ball himself, with no pads, on a 32 dive. I met him at the line and knocked him on his *** in the backfield. He didn’t try that again, and we got an early water break.
My high school coach lost hisshit 3 times a practice. He thought he’d run the ball himself, with no pads, on a 32 dive. I met him at the line and knocked him on his *** in the backfield. He didn’t try that again, and we got an early water break.
How often do you see someone with no history of being out of control go berserk like that?
How did you ascertain it’s an unbelievably important game vs any other from the clip?
The guy lost his temper and kicked a football. What % of HS coaches have done that ? About 90%. My son just finished playing for two different pretty high level coaches so I was around what goes on today. They still scream and kick footballs. Maybe they dont
Put their hands on their players anymore.
Trying to think of a profession where if anyone in a position of authority did anything similar they would keep their job.
Let's say he kicked and hit the kid 1000 times again, but never a nut shot...do you really think that somehow justifies or excuses what happened?
In those 1000 kicks, he may have hit him in the face and broken the kids nose 70 times.
He may have him the kid in the throat with the end of the ball 40 times. He may have drilled the kid in the mouth and kicked out a tooth 50 times.
He very well would have caused MORE pain and injury in with some kicks.
You justifying or excusing this because you think its a 1 in 1000 kick is, well, nuts.
And your football coach treating you like a 17ing ragdoll isn't justification or an excuse for how adult coaches treat players now.
You were mistreated. Don't normalize being mistreated.
I know you are a troll, however
1) he has a helmet on.
2). It’s a football. Essentially an air filled leather bladder. It is not a shot put fired out of a cannon
Troll? I just think your comments are absurd because they excuse and perpetuate the long established issue of trusted adults mistreating children.
Normalizing mistreatment of children is not acceptable.
That isn't trolling.
Your point that the kid had a helmet on is accurate. So yeah, he wouldn't get a broken nose from being hit point blank with a ball kicked at him by a coach.
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