14 Arrested at PSU for major cocaine trafficking ring at 2 fraternities...

[BobPSU92]

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It doesn't matter if it’s good or bad as long as they’re talking about you.

 

[BobPSU92]

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[MtNittany]

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D.U. sits on one of the largest fraternity-owned parcels this side of the Mississippi and I can imagine the developers circling the AG’s office like vulture$ …. DU alumni association has spurned offers from developers to sell/relocate over the past 50yrs since being burned by a local church (who I won’t name) that purchased the parcel that went all the way down to Beaver Ave - only for them to flip it to a developer who would build Cedarbrook … you can look at the pic and imagine the monstrosity that would go in there

I think Chi Phi's lot is bigger, but further from downtown.

 

[trufan]

One of the six pack shops on College used to sell white cans of beer with nothing but the letters "BEER" printed on it. That was it. Even at a six pack shop it was like a buck-fifty a six.

I remember quart bottles of Valley Forge beer for 2/$1.50.
Really helped stretch the budget.

 

[Steve JG]

I think that it’s pretty safe to say that if this going on at PSU, it also is going at many other schools. Dateline and 48 Hours have made a living on presenting heinous stories resulting from drug use on college campuses. That’s what happens when you turn schools into assembly lines and accept people who just want to get stoned and screw for four or five years until the real world hits them.

You say that like it’s a bad thing………

 

[PSU4U]

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“We found a pattern of events that showed cutting and bagging cocaine was, for some pledges, an indoctrination into the Delta Upsilon and Sigma Chi fraternities,” Sunday said.

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Holy Crap.

 

[massimoManca II]

I think Chi Phi's lot is bigger, but further from downtown.

Nope…
D.U. sits on 2 acres ; Chi Phi 1.26

 

[troutrus]

Just sitting here remembering when “Penn State Proud“ was a thing.

 

[LaJollaCreek]

In related news the countries best student section is expected to be a bit more sluggish this year....some might even say tired.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

No wonder why we loved to smack them around.

 

[WaffleShopper]

Just sitting here remembering when “Penn State Proud“ was a thing.

Same. I was there in the 90s and I don’t remember any drugs or alcohol, shootings on HUB lawn, child sex assaults in Lasch, or any other criminal activity. This generation has ruined everything.

 

[JAS]

This whole situation is beyond my comprehension, seriously 18-22 years old and your life is done. For what? I had and continue to have deep roots to PSU and State College, a child and now Grandson as Students, daughter on faculty currently and I lived for 41 years in State College, after previously attended Grad School .Why?

 

[Shepdogg]

If you can’t hook up, Tri Delt.

 

[BobPSU92]

I’ll post it. This happened in 2023-2024. Who was our football coach?

 

[massimoManca II]

The article noted the drug packaging took place within the houses. Since the whole operation was condoned by the leadership/management of both places, I think the AG would have a strong argument to seize both premises. It was a criminal operation being run from within both houses with the pledges performing criminal activity to gain acceptance into said operation. "Wanna be in our fraternity?? You need to help us package and distribute drugs".

That’s quite an assumption, Hoss. Let’s hear how you extrapolated that nugget from published reports.

I guarantee you such behavior was not “condoned” by anyone in a leadership position. … In fact, I’d be surprised if anyone in a leadership position there was aware of any structured “cutting & bagging” , perhaps other than knowing a couple members were serious shitheads.

As such- willing to wager that “cutting & bagging,” while despicable, was something that likely occurred in a brother’s room as opposed to the implied event / part of a pledging function; getting a whiff of but a colorful choice of words by the AG to gin up charges by painting a picture of an assembly line like babas pinching pierogies down at the church hall . Just not buying that .

 

[Mile High Lion]

For the rest of your lives, good luck finding someone willing to hire you, fellas.

No one should hire them. They got pledges involved as part of an initiation? Throw the book at them.

 

[Erial_Lion]

In related news the countries best student section is expected to be a bit more sluggish this year....some might even say tired.

That's nothing that blasting "MAKE SOME NOISE" 300 times can't fix...

 

[leinbacker]

Is this a new White Out tradition?

 

[NittPicker]

That’s quite an assumption, Hoss. Let’s hear how you extrapolated that nugget from published reports.

I guarantee you such behavior was not “condoned” by anyone in a leadership position. … In fact, I’d be surprised if anyone in a leadership position there was aware of any structured “cutting & bagging” , perhaps other than knowing a couple members were serious shitheads.

As such- willing to wager that “cutting & bagging,” while despicable, was something that likely occurred in a brother’s room as opposed to the implied event / part of a pledging function; getting a whiff of but a colorful choice of words by the AG to gin up charges by painting a picture of an assembly line like babas pinching pierogies down at the church hall . Just not buying that .

If someone has to package drugs as a condition of gaining membership, I'd think someone at some level of the house leadership hierarchy had to have known. Even if it's the rush leader (or whatever they call it at the first level), someone was setting conditions which encouraged potential members to commit crimes in the houses on behalf of the organizations. It doesn't seem like it matters if it happened in the privacy of a room or at an official pledge function. The pledges didn't just decide to do it on their own. It was reportedly a coordinated effort between members of both houses to transport drugs from Philly and NYC, so it was more than just a couple rouge dudes at each house acting independently.

But I'm not an attorney and I'm sure an attorney or two will jump in and let me know I'm wrong because, of course, non-attorneys are dummies. Maybe the whole thing will be chalked up to frat boys being frat boys. Maybe the AG has no interest in trying to be aggressive regarding drug trafficking. Anyway, whatever happens, happens. Not my circus - not my monkeys.

 

[GringoStarr99]

Always check the Frisbee Jim. As Fat Freddy said: "Weed will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no weed."

Our frat would have occasional parties with DU in the early 80's but I don't recall the drug side. Only good thing about DU was cutting across their lot on the way to classes. Never had a party with Sig Chi.

 

[PSU-Dude]

For sure. The article said Delta Upsilon was placed under suspension, but Sigma Chi was operating outside the purview of the university. I don't think it matters either way since the AG, IMHO, will seize both houses under the asset forfeiture law. It was more than just a couple dudes being stupid. It was stupidity at the house leadership level.

The actives don't own the house, so it's not their "asset". How could it be seized?

That's like saying the AG can seize an apartment building, hotel, rental property, etc. if anyone is caught with drugs there.

 

[PSU-Dude]

SAE and KDR had the same reputation. DU was more the poor student's outlet. They had a brother that - NO LIE - put a coupon in the Collegian for a $1 discount off a gram of weed. Also had a Monday Night Football special where he'd deliver. I think he called himself Dr. Z.

What a stupid *** statement. SAE and KDR never had that same reputation.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

In the 70s some girls liked the frat rats. Until we slapped the rats around.

 

[psu0408]

Delete

 

[Knickslions69]

In the 70s some girls liked the frat rats. Until we slapped the rats around.

Ya I doubt you were slapping anything but yourself jumbo

 

[Big_O]

My only experience with either of these frats was in the late 70’s when I rushed frats on the encouragement of my father. I attended a few events (mainly parties) at Sigma Chi and I was a legacy. The parties I went to were in the middle of the week, and as a science major, this was not really compatible with my studying habits or class schedule.

I did drink (beer was legal at 18 in my home state in those days) but never did illegal drugs. My main memory or non-memory was the day after attending one of the parties I didn’t remember anything from the previous evening except for crossing College Avenue on my walk back to my dorm in East Halls. I had wondered if someone had slipped something into my beer because I knew how much I had to drink and it wasn’t a huge amount.

I decided that frat wasn’t for me because I didn’t think that the lifestyle was conducive to doing well academically. I did not receive a bid and my father was furious because I was a legacy and he said they have to take you. I told my father it was fine with me. I just wonder if the frat was already into the drug scene then and the brothers knew I wouldn’t fit in. They were doing me a favor. I decided to become a Gamma Delta Iota instead.

As an aside, Sigma Chi had just recently occupied the old Delta Tau Delta house at that time after recently coming back from the dead. And the newly reformed Delta Tau Delta was the first resident floor (2nd floor) in my dorm that year. They then moved out from the dorm the following year to occupy another defunct frat house in town.

 

[Lion84]

My only experience with either of these frats was in the late 70’s when I rushed frats on the encouragement of my father. I attended a few events (mainly parties) at Sigma Chi and I was a legacy. The parties I went to were in the middle of the week, and as a science major, this was not really compatible with my studying habits or class schedule.

I did drink (beer was legal at 18 in my home state in those days) but never did illegal drugs. My main memory or non-memory was the day after attending one of the parties I didn’t remember anything from the previous evening except for crossing College Avenue on my walk back to my dorm in East Halls. I had wondered if someone had slipped something into my beer because I knew how much I had to drink and it wasn’t a huge amount.

I decided that frat wasn’t for me because I didn’t think that the lifestyle was conducive to doing well academically. I did not receive a bid and my father was furious because I was a legacy and he said they have to take you. I told my father it was fine with me. I just wonder if the frat was already into the drug scene then and the brothers knew I wouldn’t fit in. They were doing me a favor. I decided to become a Gamma Delta Iota instead.

As an aside, Sigma Chi had just recently occupied the old Delta Tau Delta house at that time after recently coming back from the dead. And the newly reformed Delta Tau Delta was the first resident floor (2nd floor) in my dorm that year. They then moved out from the dorm the following year to occupy another defunct frat house in town.

I'm surprised they didn't take you as a legacy - another Frat took this Flounder guy since he was a legacy.

 

[OaktonDave]

DU was aka Drugs Unlimited as far back as the early to mid ‘80’s.

The other fraternity that had that rep was known as "pink elephant" - don't recall the actual name. (Edit: I looked it up - Delta Sigma Phi.)

 

[SkiSkiSki]

It doesn't matter if it’s good or bad as long as they’re talking about you.

It made a morning drive radio broadcast out of St. Louis this morning along with a White Out joke associated with this story.

Good times. The first kickoff can't get here fast enough.

 

[rigi19041]

The actives don't own the house, so it's not their "asset". How could it be seized?

That's like saying the AG can seize an apartment building, hotel, rental property, etc. if anyone is caught with drugs there.

Or a dorm.

That said I would not put it past law enforcement to try to seize the property.

A homeowner in a town near me was robbed. He knew who did it. It was a kid working for a kitchen and bath company. Kid get arrested. Kid cuts a deal and tells the cops the homeower has pot plants in the basement. No I dication he sold anything and owner claimed it was for his own use. Law enforcement seized the house of the victim.

 

[PSU-Dude]

Been trying to figure out where those arrested are from. Saw that one major player and his dad (a law student and lawyer, respectively) are from Pittsburgh, but that at least six others are from NY or NJ.

My point: Maybe this is the downside of accepting so many out-of-state kids that clearly have lots of money since they can afford 2x tuition, which is already outrageously high....no pun intended

 

[PSU-Dude]

Or a dorm.

That said I would not put it past law enforcement to try to seize the property.

A homeowner in a town near me was robbed. He knew who did it. It was a kid working for a kitchen and bath company. Kid get arrested. Kid cuts a deal and tells the cops the homeower has pot plants in the basement. No I dication he sold anything and owner claimed it was for his own use. Law enforcement seized the house of the victim.

If the pot plants are illegal, then he's no longer a victim....just sayin'

 

[LaJollaCreek]

Been trying to figure out where those arrested are from. Saw that one major player and his dad (a law student and lawyer, respectively) are from Pittsburgh, but that at least six others are from NY or NJ.

My point: Maybe this is the downside of accepting so many out-of-state kids that clearly have lots of money since they can afford 2x tuition, which is already outrageously high....no pun intended

Geography is your concern here?

 

[BobPSU92]

While eating lunch with colleagues at the office today, the news on a TV broadcast this PSU story. Pictures of PSU logos across campus, “COCAINE RING” on the screen, and mugshots accompanied the report. Everyone at the table knew that I am a Penn Stater. It became the topic of conversation over lunch.

I’m such an a$$hole.

 

[Steve JG]

Is this a new White Out tradition?

 

[pendal1]

Thi

While eating lunch with colleagues at the office today, the news on a TV broadcast this PSU story. Pictures of PSU logos across campus, “COCAINE RING” on the screen, and mugshots accompanied the report. Everyone at the table knew that I am a Penn Stater. It became the topic of conversation over lunch.

I’m such an a$$hole.

Yeah, it's been a fun couple years. The hits just keep on coming. And I doubt these guys donated their drug profits to nil.

 

[EricStratton-RushChairman]

 

[NaturalLion]

DU had their pledges bagging coke while we had our pledges ripping down DU’s fence piece by piece. Levels to this ****

 

[Lion84]

The other fraternity that had that rep was known as "pink elephant" - don't recall the actual name. (Edit: I looked it up - Delta Sigma Phi.)

Yeah - A guy in my Dorm moved there after Freshman year primarily because he was a heavy dope smoker and many were also at the Pink Elephant. No idea if that is still the case or not.

 

[PSUForever]

That’s quite an assumption, Hoss. Let’s hear how you extrapolated that nugget from published reports.

I guarantee you such behavior was not “condoned” by anyone in a leadership position. … In fact, I’d be surprised if anyone in a leadership position there was aware of any structured “cutting & bagging” , perhaps other than knowing a couple members were serious shitheads.

As such- willing to wager that “cutting & bagging,” while despicable, was something that likely occurred in a brother’s room as opposed to the implied event / part of a pledging function; getting a whiff of but a colorful choice of words by the AG to gin up charges by painting a picture of an assembly line like babas pinching pierogies down at the church hall . Just not buying that .

It makes you wonder if it was an assembly line of pledges were bagging cocaine then why didn't some just leave and report it? Through the rush process they had to have gotten a few pledges who were not total druggies so if they all of a sudden were thrust into having to bag cocaine they would have done something and not just complied. They would have to have the sense it was illegal and participating in it would ruin their futures.