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And yet somecrazyhow live births in the United States increased in 2021 and then increased again in 2022 after declining every year for 7 consecutive years leading up to the COVID vaccine. We can only imagine how many babies there would be if there weren’t so many miscarriages.
Please don't take this the wrong way but sometimes you add some good posts to the board. I kid.
 
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Please don't take this the wrong way but sometimes you add some good posts to the board. I kid.

 
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You guys keep believing your suspect sources...

"For critically and noncritically ill hospitalized patients with COVID-19, ivermectin was unlikely to improve the primary composite outcome of organ support-free days and hospital survival."

Here is the problem with your defense Doc and why the medical community will take a black eye.


You guys didnt say "it isnt going to do any good", you activily sold that it was going to make things worse.
 

WDDT

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^ Taking that one step further, lol at the queef in the OP. If you would have called it "the shot that helps you not die" you would have actually had to show deaths from covid not with covid. Instead you told people they were killing grandma by not getting the shot.


You dont get to rewrite history now.
 

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Here is the problem with your defense Doc and why the medical community will take a black eye.


You guys didnt say "it isnt going to do any good", you activily sold that it was going to make things worse.

My guess (if it even happened as you’re describing) is they were worried y’all were going to pull a Mary Doran. Lulz. Two shots of horse paste since 2020. I would have loved to watched this crazy old bat’s decline from the sideline. Children need adults in the room.

 

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My guess (if it even happened as you’re describing) is they were worried y’all were going to pull a Mary Doran. Lulz. Two shots of horse paste since 2020. I would have loved to watched this crazy old bat’s decline from the sideline. Children need adults in the room.

there's also the reality that if people are relying on an ineffective drug for treatment, in function it is doing harm (when there are effective treatments available that are being bypassed in favor of the ineffective one).
 

WDDT

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My guess (if it even happened as you’re describing) is they were worried y’all were going to pull a Mary Doran. Lulz. Two shots of horse paste since 2020. I would have loved to watched this crazy old bat’s decline from the sideline. Children need adults in the room.

In a thread about how false science was pushed you provide an article that has this headline:

Ivermectin blamed for death of Colorado woman; experts renew warnings about misuse of drug.

And then goes on to say this:
The report notes: "There is currently no available toxicology testing available for the confirmation of ivermectin."



Im no horse paste believer either but come the hell on.
 
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In a thread about how false science was pushed you provide an article that has this headline:

Ivermectin blamed for death of Colorado woman; experts renew warnings about misuse of drug.

And then goes on to say this:
The report notes: "There is currently no available toxicology testing available for the confirmation of ivermectin."



Im no horse paste believer either but come the hell on.

I believe people are nuts for taking veterinary grade horse paste and thinking it won't have an impact on your health - no "false science" needed. I believe people are nuts for thinking little masks do/did much of anything - no "false science" needed.

If the latter hits your safe space, I'm happy to pivot. I'm the adult you all need.
 

WDDT

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I believe people are nuts for taking veterinary grade horse paste and thinking it won't have an impact on your health - no "false science" needed. I believe people are nuts for thinking little masks do/did much of anything - no "false science" needed.

If the latter hits your safe space, I'm happy to pivot. I'm the adult you all need.
I get it, you want to feel wanted. Its a little unbecoming bruv. Just be a normal dude.
 

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You're still re-peddling this trash maga propaganda after we covered it thoroughly in another thread? Privately asking questions was not an admission that he knew it caused miscarriages, when follow-up studies showed that to be false and Trump's CDC still recommends the covid shot to pregnant women today.



"This is a resurfacing of a claim that's been fact-checked repeatedly since 2021 — it's built on a well-documented statistical error, not a cover-up.

The claim: That the Shimabukuro et al. NEJM study (April 2021) reported a 12.6% miscarriage rate but "raw data" actually showed 82%, and that Fauci/CDC/NEJM concealed this.

Why the 82% figure is wrong:

The study followed 827 pregnant people in the CDC's v-safe registry who got vaccinated at various points in pregnancy — including about 700 who were vaccinated in their third trimester. Critics arrived at "82%" by:
  1. Discarding the ~700 third-trimester women (who obviously can't miscarry — miscarriage by definition is an early-pregnancy loss),
  2. Then dividing pregnancy losses only by the small subset of first-trimester women who had already reached a completed outcome by the study's cutoff date,
  3. While ignoring the much larger group of first-trimester women whose pregnancies were still ongoing (i.e., not yet miscarried, not yet reason to worry) when data collection ended.
That's a denominator-selection error: if you only count pregnancies that reached an outcome by an early cutoff, you systematically exclude all the successful, still-ongoing pregnancies, and artificially inflate the loss rate. FactCheck.org, Lead Stories, and independent statisticians have all walked through this same math error going back to 2021 — it's not a new finding, it's a recycled miscalculation now being attached to newly released congressional documents.

On "Fauci covering it up": Fauci's released texts reportedly show him raising a private question about miscarriage risk in January 2021 — before the CDC's actual pregnancy-safety data had been collected and analyzed. Privately asking a question is not the same as possessing proof of harm and hiding it. The Shimabukuro study went through a correction for a methodology issue, but corrected/revised methodology is normal scientific process, not evidence of fraud — and the corrected analysis still didn't show an elevated miscarriage signal.

Broader evidence: Multiple large studies since 2021 (not just this one paper) have looked at miscarriage rates in vaccinated vs. unvaccinated pregnant people and found no meaningful difference from background rates, which independently run around 10-15% in the first trimester.

Bottom line: The "82%" and "abortion shot" framing is a statistical artifact from cherry-picked denominators, not what the underlying data shows. It's the same claim that's been debunked multiple times since 2021, now recirculating with a new hook (Rand Paul/Ron Johnson document release) attached."

 
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