Data Center FUD

fatpiggy

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Aug 18, 2002
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Democrats are using AI as an excuse to slow the economy down. They don’t want a good economy under Trump and so they will drag their feet and try to regulate as always.


 

kidmike41

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Dec 29, 2005
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We need more data centers. We also need clear regulations around their impact on public utilities. The public on both sides of the aisle is against them right now. They have a major messaging issue.

My take is that data centers can pay a large amount of property taxes in an area that fund critical local infrastructure. They should not be allowed to pay less for electricity than retail customers. You need to control the noise pollution. You make these things known to the public and you should be able to build again.
 

fatpiggy

Heisman
Aug 18, 2002
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We need more data centers. We also need clear regulations around their impact on public utilities. The public on both sides of the aisle is against them right now. They have a major messaging issue.

My take is that data centers can pay a large amount of property taxes in an area that fund critical local infrastructure. They should not be allowed to pay less for electricity than retail customers. You need to control the noise pollution. You make these things known to the public and you should be able to build again.


Agreed. Most of the issues you bring up have been addressed, but that won’t stop democrats from taking the opportunity to hinder Trump.

China is making a large push to spread data center fear here in the USA to slow us down and Democrats are falling for it, or worse intentionally using it to slow the economy down
 

Palmerhawk

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Wind turbine farm in my NW Iowa county pays over one third of total county property taxes.

Trump hates wind power but loves data centers.
Once again, picking the winners and losers in our supposed " free market economy.

No money in wind power for trump while the hyperscalers give him huge donations....oligarchy in action.
 

fatpiggy

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Aug 18, 2002
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Wind turbine farm in my NW Iowa county pays over one third of total county property taxes.

Trump hates wind power but loves data centers.
Once again, picking the winners and losers in our supposed " free market economy.

No money in wind power for trump while the hyperscalers give him huge donations....oligarchy in action.
No, the free market said that wind energy is dumb as ****. It was heavily subsidized. That is not the free market.

Wind energy is stupid.
 

Palmerhawk

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Oil depletion allowance providing hundreds of billions in tax breaks to oil industry dwarf any govt support wind energy has rec'd.

My provider does not have wind sources...only coal. My cost is .14 kwhr.
Mid- America is across the road .they have tons of wind....their customers pay half....07/ kwhr.

Buffet owns mid- America with Berkshire.
Smart guy.
Wind is now the cheaper option.
 

Dadar

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Dec 21, 2003
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And we are treading into FERC timelines for the grid to adopt measures for massive data center hits

Ref FERC

Critical Implementation Timeline
The regulatory deadlines are compressed, moving the power sector at an unprecedented pace: [1, 2, 3]
  • July 20, 2026 (Passed): Grid operators submitted Resource Adequacy reports proving how they will secure enough raw generation to support these 50+ MW loads.
  • August 17, 2026 (Upcoming): The formal 60-day deadline for all six grid operators to submit their final tariff overhauls or legal defenses to FERC.
  • December 31, 2026: Deadline for NERC to submit formal, mandatory reliability and registry standards specifically tailored to managing large computational loads on the bulk power system. [1, 2, 3, 4]
 

Dadar

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The U.S. crude oil production timeline faces a plateau near 13.5 million to 13.8 million barrels per day through 2026, followed by a final peak near 14 million barrels per day around 2027 as the 20-year shale boom matures, before structural acceleration toward a severe supply deficit accelerates post-2030. [1, 2, 3, 4]
 
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