Cedar Football

[GoSkers3]

Not sure if anyone saw this on Facebook but Cedar County News had a little story on both Cedar and Hartington Public's football teams. The story included a little video of each team's practice. Well, apparently Cedar was in pads when they shouldn't have been according to the NSAA rules. Someone tagged the NSAA in it and the video was taken down. Anyone have any knowledge of this and will there be repercussions for Cedar by the NSAA? Just found it interesting.

 

[CoachSloup]

The NSAA addressed the issue with Cedar Catholic and they were penalized practice time. As of now I don't see any further punishment to be handed down.

 

[JAW20]

I hope the punishment at least makes a difference and hurts a little. Otherwise teams will just start disregarding the rules and will run rampant.

Is Cattau still the AD? He could do something very funny……

 

[JAG164]

Wonder what “penalized practice time” really means?

No heat acclimatization - in this weather? Yikes!

 

[CCat20]

I hope the punishment at least makes a difference and hurts a little. Otherwise teams will just start disregarding the rules and will run rampant.

Is Cattau still the AD? He could do something very funny……

If it's anything like a previous experience I've had with the NSAA regarding broken rules, it'll be no more than just a slap on the wrist.

 

[Ponchn7138]

My guess is that new coach just followed what had been done for years...

 

[CoachSloup]

My guess is that new coach just followed what had been done for years...

Your guess would be wrong.

 

[JAW20]

The NSAA addressed the issue with Cedar Catholic and they were penalized practice time. As of now I don't see any further punishment to be handed down.

Any idea how much practice time? And how would they police it?

 

[CeNnEbFbFan]

Your guess would be wrong.

Get him coach!

 

[WeHaveTheMeats]

Any idea how much practice time? And how would they police it?

I believe the school has to submit a plan of action and how to enforce it, but I could be wrong.

 

[Big bo fan]

Any idea how much practice time? And how would they police it?

Don’t know what the reduction of practice time consists of . But the Higher ups at Cedar aren’t Stupid they will police it . They get caught again and I would guess it would be forfeited games and that would include fines . It’s a1000 /game to forfeit .

 

[Big bo fan]

Not sure if anyone saw this on Facebook but Cedar County News had a little story on both Cedar and Hartington Public's football teams. The story included a little video of each team's practice. Well, apparently Cedar was in pads when they shouldn't have been according to the NSAA rules. Someone tagged the NSAA in it and the video was taken down. Anyone have any knowledge of this and will there be repercussions for Cedar by the NSAA? Just found it interesting.

Why in the hell would you allow video of a practice when you were willing breaking the Rules? They had to know someone would see this a notify the NSAA .

 

[JAW20]

Don’t know what the reduction of practice time consists of . But the Higher ups at Cedar aren’t Stupid they will police it . They get caught again and I would guess it would be forfeited games and that would include fines . It’s a1000 /game to forfeit .

Why weren’t they policing it in the first place?!

 

[Big bo fan]

Why weren’t they policing it in the first place?!

I am assuming they didn’t think it was necessary. Chad never did this .

 

[JAW20]

I am assuming they didn’t think it was necessary. Chad never did this .

I agree. I’m sure Chad never did. One would have to guess that first week acclimatization process is one of the first things mentioned in the coaches mandatory rules video.

The thing that makes me even more skeptical, is once they found out it was on social media, they took it down…….. and obviously tried hiding it.

 

[nenebskers]

I agree. I’m sure Chad never did. One would have to guess that first week acclimatization process is one of the first things mentioned in the coaches mandatory rules video.

The thing that makes me even more skeptical, is once they found out it was on social media, they took it down…….. and obviously tried hiding it.

Cedar Catholic High School does not control the social media page for the Cedar County News. Though if you ask anyone from Hartington Public or Wynot they may disagree. LOL.

 

[GoSkers3]

I agree. I’m sure Chad never did. One would have to guess that first week acclimatization process is one of the first things mentioned in the coaches mandatory rules video.

The thing that makes me even more skeptical, is once they found out it was on social media, they took it down…….. and obviously tried hiding it.

Agreed! And the punishment just shows that NSAA doesn’t want to get involved and pretty much allows schools to do whatever they want.

 

[Alum-Ni]

Agreed! And the punishment just shows that NSAA doesn’t want to get involved and pretty much allows schools to do whatever they want.

I wouldn't go that far. As far as we know, this is a first offense, and as such, the repercussions seem appropriate.

 

[GoSkers3]

I wouldn't go that far. As far as we know, this is a first offense, and as such, the repercussions seem appropriate.

I respect your opinion. In my opinion, I don't feel that teams will see that punishment and stop them from doing what Cedar did. How does the NSAA monitor that they lose practice time? Cedar submits a plan to the state - who says they follow that?

 

[Big bo fan]

Agreed! And the punishment just shows that NSAA doesn’t want to get involved and pretty much allows schools to do whatever they want.

What do you think the punishment should be ? They violated practice rules. As far as anyone knows this is the first offense ( at least at getting caught) they gave them a reduction in practice time. Seems appropriate .

 

[Big bo fan]

I respect your opinion. In my opinion, I don't feel that teams will see that punishment and stop them from doing what Cedar did. How does the NSAA monitor that they lose practice time? Cedar submits a plan to the state - who says they follow that?

what punishment would you hand out in this case?

 

[GoSkers3]

what punishment would you hand out in this case?

I would suspend the coach for a game - make the punishment mean something. I would not punish the players in this situation.

 

[JAW20]

What do you think the punishment should be ? They violated practice rules. As far as anyone knows this is the first offense ( at least at getting caught) they gave them a reduction in practice time. Seems appropriate .

Did we ever find out what the actual punishment was? “Practice time” was all I saw. 1 hour of practice time and 3 whole practices makes a big difference.

And everyone saying first offense…… I know for a fact that simple rule is beat into coaches’ heads. Then obviously the cover up of the video getting deleted.

As already stated, I’m sure there are some coaches seeing this and thinking they won’t be afraid to bend rules if it’s just a slap on the wrist.

 

[SkolSker]

How many more advantages do parochial schools need?

 

[CoachSloup]

Did we ever find out what the actual punishment was? “Practice time” was all I saw. 1 hour of practice time and 3 whole practices makes a big difference.

And everyone saying first offense…… I know for a fact that simple rule is beat into coaches’ heads. Then obviously the cover up of the video getting deleted.

As already stated, I’m sure there are some coaches seeing this and thinking they won’t be afraid to bend rules if it’s just a slap on the wrist.

As I understood it, they basically had to start over on Wednesday in just helmets which wouldn't of put them in full pads until this week.

 

[GoSkers3]

As I understood it, they basically had to start over on Wednesday in just helmets which wouldn't of put them in full pads until this week.

So, I wouldn't say that they missed any practice time then. Exactly what I figured - soft, soft, soft punishment.

 

[JAW20]

As I understood it, they basically had to start over on Wednesday in just helmets which wouldn't have put them in full pads until this week.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Big bo fan]

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I would suspend the coach for a game - make the punishment mean something. I would not punish the players in this situation.

i honestly think the reason they don’t go harder on the punishment is because they know it’s impossible to stop this if a coach wants to push the limit. They got lucky with the news who happened to include video. They aren’t going to make an example out of Cedar because they know that catching all is impossible.

 

[GoSkers3]

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i honestly think the reason they don’t go harder on the punishment is because they know it’s impossible to stop this if a coach wants to push the limit. They got lucky with the news who happened to include video. They aren’t going to make an example out of Cedar because they know that catching all is impossible.

Respect your opinion. I agree that is impossible to monitor but there are a ton of "rules" that are impossible to monitor. I don't believe that just because you can't monitor it, then you just let them get away with it. At that point - why even have the rule then? They weren't afraid to take away a state title from a team a few years back.

 

[Big bo fan]

Respect your opinion. I agree that is impossible to monitor but there are a ton of "rules" that are impossible to monitor. I don't believe that just because you can't monitor it, then you just let them get away with it. At that point - why even have the rule then? They weren't afraid to take away a state title from a team a few years back.

The ineligible player rule is cut and dried and there were previous cases that set precedent for the punishment. I really can’t remember a team getting nailed for this rule violation? IMO if more teams get caught at this you will see a more severe punishment. That being said they could have set a precedent and maybe suspended the coach. They didn’t and only Jennifer and the Board can answer why they chose not to .

 

[GoSkers3]

The ineligible player rule is cut and dried and there were previous cases that set precedent for the punishment. I really can’t remember a team getting nailed for this rule violation? IMO if more teams get caught at this you will see a more severe punishment. That being said they could have set a precedent and maybe suspended the coach. They didn’t and only Jennifer and the Board can answer why they chose not to .

Is the acclimatization rule not cut and dry? Do we change the punishment when more teams get caught? I don't know how you can change a punishment for a rule when you set the precedent with Cedar. I guess it is what is.

 

[Big bo fan]

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Is the acclimatization rule not cut and dry? Do we change the punishment when more teams get caught? I don't know how you can change a punishment for a rule when you set the precedent with Cedar. I guess it is what is.

Don’t know if it’s cut and dry. Maybe this is the punishment for violating this rule. I have never heard of a team getting busted for this . If indeed this is the punishment then it is what it is and people need to stop complaining.

 

[JAW20]

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i honestly think the reason they don’t go harder on the punishment is because they know it’s impossible to stop this if a coach wants to push the limit. They got lucky with the news who happened to include video. They aren’t going to make an example out of Cedar because they know that catching all is impossible.

I think everyone understands that rules may be broken, and some may not get caught. For example speeding on highways. But, if someone gets caught red handed, they pay the price.

The rule is cut and dry, and that isn’t debatable.