Abortion up until birth is law in MA

[jimneffer]

I guess my limited intellectual capacity doesn’t allow me to sanction murder. Maybe one day I can get smart like you!

no, it (apparently) doesn't give you the capability of discerning any difference in circumstances among situations that ultimately result in death

that's OK...we all have our shortcomings.

 

[Scrubby]

It’s just like putting down a lame animal. Just agree that’s what it is and move on. I don’t believe in killing people. Why not kill an old person because they are a burden? I would hate to put their care takers through the trouble of dealing with them.

The far left in canada have actually implemented that already. It's called MAID and their "healthcare" system recommends it frequently, even for basic things like general depression, having financial struggles, or even just being sick and in pain because people need to wait 6 plus months for basic health services due to failed socialized healthcare.

"Oh, you're struggling? Have you thought about dying? We can help with that!"

It really is not much of a stretch to say the left has devolved into a weird death/sex cult.

 

[kidmike41]

no, it (apparently) doesn't give you the capability of discerning any difference in circumstances among situations that ultimately result in death

that's OK...we all have our shortcomings.

I understand we couldn’t possibly inconvenience anyone. If a doctor at a hospital thinks the procedure is necessary than I can get behind it. If it is someone at planned parenthood then no.

 

[JWolf74]

So they aren’t doctors?

Again, what are you talking about? And how does that pertain to the discussion?

Yes, the people who perform surgical procedures are providers licensed to do them, regardless of location. More complex cases are not being done in clinics.

 

[JWolf74]

I guess my limited intellectual capacity doesn’t allow me to sanction murder. Maybe one day I can get smart like you!

Who's being murdered? The fetus who won't survive? Instead you'd prefer to potentially cause the death of the mother forcing her to deliver a nonviable fetus. Because sky fairy prefers it that way?

 

[RockyMtNole]

I understand we couldn’t possibly inconvenience anyone. If a doctor at a hospital thinks the procedure is necessary than I can get behind it. If it is someone at planned parenthood then no.

“Inconvenience”
Nice.

Also, do you think there aren’t medical professionals at Planned Parenthood clinics?

 

[kidmike41]

Who's being murdered? The fetus who won't survive? Instead you'd prefer to potentially cause the death of the mother forcing her to deliver a nonviable fetus. Because sky fairy prefers it that way?

The fetus that is a human being.

Y’all intelligent people love to insult, it’s a sign of weakness.

 

[kidmike41]

“Inconvenience”
Nice.

Also, do you think there aren’t medical professionals at Planned Parenthood clinics?

None that I would trust.

 

[dpic73]

Liberals said that they never wanted full term abortions. Now they make it law. Republicans call out the lies and you have a problem it?

Pete gave a brilliant answer to this question on FoxNews.

 

[kidmike41]

Pete gave a brilliant answer to this question on FoxNews.

I draw the line at Pete drawing the line!

 

[JWolf74]

The fetus that is a human being.

Y’all intelligent people love to insult, it’s a sign of weakness.

That fetus won't survive. I'm not sure why you support the harm to the mother because of your interpretation of what sky fairy wants.

 

[TigerRagRob]

 

[TigerRagRob]

This is what these barbarians support

 

[dpic73]

For the people in this thread that seem to think only Democrats get abortions.

"Research nonprofit KFF released a new report this month analyzing the abortion experiences, knowledge and attitudes of women ages 18 to 49 throughout the U.S., including those belonging to different political parties. According to its findings, which were derived from KFF’s 2024 Women’s Health Survey, 12% of Republican women, 14% of Democratic women and 15% of Independent women said they had gotten an abortion in the past — including one in 10 self-named “pro-life” women."

Women Seek Out Abortions Regardless of Political Affiliation, New Report Finds

While abortion is a politically divisive issue, women from all points along the political spectrum — including Republicans — report getting one at some point in their lives.

thestoryexchange.org

"An overwhelming 79% of Republican women support laws that explicitly protect abortion access for patients experiencing pregnancy-related emergencies."

Polling Insight: Republican Women Voters on Abortion | KFF

This Polling Insight explores the abortion attitudes of Republican women voters leading up to the 2024 presidential election, including support for specific policies and their perceptions of the Republican Party on this issue.

www.kff.org

 

[McLovin32]

Which procedure did your ***** daughter use to kill her babies?

Suction Curettage: The suction pulls the fetus’ body apart and out of the uterus. The doctor may also use a loop-shaped knife called a curette to scrape the fetus and fetal parts out of the uterus.

Dilation and Evacuation (D&E): Once the cervix is stretched open the doctor pulls out the fetal parts with forceps. The fetus’ skull is crushed to ease removal. A sharp tool (called a curette) is also used to scrape out the contents of the uterus, removing any remaining tissue.

Dilation and Extraction (D&X) (partial-birth abortion): Grasping a leg with forceps, the doctor delivers the fetus up to the head. Next, scissors are inserted into the base of the skull to create an opening. A suction catheter is placed into the opening to remove the brain. The skull collapses and the fetus is removed.

Abortion Procedure Facts | Foundations of Life Pregnancy Center & Adoption Services

foundationsoflife.org

Is this funny, you sick F’ck?

This is the hardest I've ever laughed in my life. Thank you Ped


Also, I don't have a daughter. Weird to assume that someone that supports a woman's right to choose, has a daughter that had an abortion. You people love to make up fake scenarios to try and prove a point

 

[o_wausauhawk]

doctors and patients being able to make decisions on the health of the mother without restrictions from state law (OH NO!)

one example, cited in the article i linked above:

Kate Dineen and her husband Alex Lawton recalled the journey they took to Washington, D.C. in 2021, when Dineen was 33 weeks pregnant and learned her baby had suffered a stroke in utero.

"He would either die or survive for some period of time with a spectrum of devastating outcomes. And so upon learning of the prognosis, I asked, 'What are my options?' And I will never forget the response. 'You may still be able to explore termination if you're able to travel,'" Dineen said. "Travel where? We were standing in our kitchen in Boston, just less than a mile from some of the best hospitals in the country."

Truly amazing how rw posters think that mother's want to terminate a pregnancy in the 3rd trimester.

 

[PedMaller]

You must not know many physicians if you think anyone is performing a late term elective abortion on a healthy fetus.

This is similar to you morons claiming children are getting sex change operations.

You're either profoundly stupid or liars. Or both.

Bullsh!t……there are plenty of libtard physicians(mainly brainwashed women) that will gladly perform late term abortions. All in the name of “women’s rights”.

You’re either a liar or a f’en moron.

 

[TigerRagRob]

 

[McLovin32]

Bullsh!t……there are plenty of libtard physicians(mainly brainwashed women) that will gladly perform late term abortions. All in the name of “women’s rights”.

You’re either a liar or a f’en moron.

Get your emotions under control. You're overly emotional right now and people are embarrassed for you.

 

[Scrubby]

Pete gave a brilliant answer to this question on FoxNews.

Did fox ask pete about him and his "husband" having to deal with CPS and possible child abuse at home?

 

[Scrubby]

He doesn't have to worry, being an outdoor mask enjoyer pretty much assured he wasn't reproducing anyways.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Is this funny, you sick F’ck?

Yawn ...

 

[JayDeeSC]

I dunno, maybe I'll transition to a woman and try. That's how that works, right?

You do you.

 

[JayDeeSC]

Hell no, but I support limited abortions and leftist doing it because its better for the world when they remove themselves from the genepool and there are fewer of them. Its better they off themselves than kill everybody else like they have in the past...

On the record that you are pro-choice.

 

[Scrubby]

On the record that you are pro-choice.

I am on the record of being pro choice up to 12 or 14 weeks. This limitless abortion up to the point of birth is disgusting and entirely inexcusable though. I'd legitimately prefer to fully ban abortions nationwide over allowing multiple states to murder the unborn who are totally viable to live out of the womb moments before they are born.

The policies being offered by the democrat party are completely dystopian. No wonder the party has been taken over by jihadists and gay communists.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Bullsh!t……there are plenty of libtard physicians(mainly brainwashed women) that will gladly perform late term abortions. All in the name of “women’s rights”.

You’re either a liar or a f’en moron.

Source?

 

[RockyMtNole]

Truly amazing how rw posters think that mother's want to terminate a pregnancy in the 3rd trimester.

There are apparently a lot of women who carry a baby through term, through all the testing and discomfort and doctor appointments and sleepless nights and hormonal changes, etc etc etc, and then wake up at 37 weeks and just think, “You know, never mind!”

 

[AFM22]

Bullsh!t……there are plenty of libtard physicians(mainly brainwashed women) that will gladly perform late term abortions. All in the name of “women’s rights”.

You’re either a liar or a f’en moron.

Internet Dr. Pedmaller knows better than all u phagguts. He's done research.

 

[McLovin32]

Internet Dr. Pedmaller knows better than all u phagguts. He's done research.

Nothing disgusts me more than a brianwashed libtard woman doctor that thinks women should be able to choose what happens in their bodies

 

[Fasteddie24]

Late Term Abortion doctors are on the fast track to hell!

 

[McLovin32]

Late Term Abortion doctors are on the fast track to hell!

HELL YA BORTHER

 

[PedMaller]

Source?

In MA, what’s to stop a libtard physician from performing a late-term abortion in a non/low risk pregnancy?

Can’t wait to see what mental gymnastics is used to answer that one!

 

[McLovin32]

In MA, what’s to stop a libtard physician from performing a late-term abortion in a non/low risk pregnancy?

Can’t wait to see what mental gymnastics is used to answer that one!

This is so funny, stop making me laugh.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

In MA, what’s to stop a libtard physician from performing a late-term abortion in a non/low risk pregnancy?

Can’t wait to see what mental gymnastics is used to answer that one!

So you don't have a source that the situation you are raging about is actually happening?

 

[McLovin32]

So you don't have a source that the situation you are raging about is actually happening?

That's what he does. Earlier in the thread he asked what kind of procedure my non-existent daughter had to kill her babies. He creates stories in his mind in an attempt to make some sort of point but only ends up looking foolish.

 

[PedMaller]

So you don't have a source that the situation you are raging about is actually happening?

The law was just passed, dumba$$! Here’s the change already posted by Scrubby:


Previous law: Abortions after 24 weeks were allowed only if a physician determined it was necessary to preserve the patient’s life or physical/mental health, or due to a lethal fetal anomaly/diagnosis or a grave fetal diagnosis indicating the fetus was incompatible with sustained life outside the uterus without extraordinary interventions.

New law: The prior specific criteria were removed. Section 12N now states that “an abortion may be performed by a physician based upon the professional judgment of the physician.” A related provision prevents any medical review process from overriding the treating physician’s and patient’s (or health care proxy’s) judgment.

So now doesn’t need to be a grave risk to either the fetus or the mother. I’ll ask again…..what’s to stop a feminist libtard physician (not an insignificant number) from performing a mid/late term abortion on a healthy mother & baby?

 

[Urohawk]

I admit I'm not a big fan of this. I'm generally for a woman's right to choose but unless there is a medical issue I think there needs to be a reasonable time limit.

Haven't read up on it but if it does require a medical issue then I have no issues with it.

Realistically, how many doctors do you thing are comfortable terminating a totally normal fetus at 34 weeks? How many people do you think let a pregnancy get this far before they decide to do an abortion for convenience?

 

[McLovin32]

Realistically, how many doctors do you thing are comfortable terminating a totally normal fetus at 34 weeks? How many people do you think let a pregnancy get this far before they decide to do an abortion for convenience?

According to @PedMaller's non-existent statistics, there's a whole lot of them and they're all feminist libtard women doctors.

 

[Yellowsnow51]

Pete gave a brilliant answer to this question on FoxNews.

Pete Buttigieg on late-term abortions The dialogue has got so caught up on where you draw the line that we've gotten away from the fundamental question of who gets to draw the line and I TRUST WOMEN to draw the line when it's their own.

I actually agree with this. But you just don't get to say "it's not murdering a baby" to make yourself feel better about it. I believe they should change the word "abortion" to "baby murder" and say, "Baby murder is legal". Then if you still want to go through with it, have at it.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

The law was just passed, dumba$$! Here’s the change already posted by Scrubby:


Previous law: Abortions after 24 weeks were allowed only if a physician determined it was necessary to preserve the patient’s life or physical/mental health, or due to a lethal fetal anomaly/diagnosis or a grave fetal diagnosis indicating the fetus was incompatible with sustained life outside the uterus without extraordinary interventions.

New law: The prior specific criteria were removed. Section 12N now states that “an abortion may be performed by a physician based upon the professional judgment of the physician.” A related provision prevents any medical review process from overriding the treating physician’s and patient’s (or health care proxy’s) judgment.

So now doesn’t need to be a grave risk to either the fetus or the mother. I’ll ask again…..what’s to stop a feminist libtard physician (not an insignificant number) from performing a mid/late term abortion on a healthy mother & baby?

So you don’t have a source that they are doing them when not medically necessary? You’re just angry because the doctor is allowed to make a medical decision based on their medical knowledge and experience?