Usually around this time of year they announce how fast student tickets sold out... Haven't heard a peep yet.. I'm guessing they didn't.
Anyone see anything about this?
Anyone see anything about this?
Did student tickets sell out?
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I doesn’t work like that any more where everyone calls in or goes online at the same exact time and tickets sell out quickly.
Now the students are given around a week to enter into the lottery and pay for the tickets and then late last week emails were sent out notifying students whether they were selected or not. There were definitely students that did not get selected so there was more demand than tickets available but that’s about all the information we’ll probably ever know.
Here's my idea for student tickets. I'm sure there are a lot of problems with it, but anyway....
Divide the schedule into two separate packages. Of course, in most years one would have three games and the other would have four. I'm sure there's a way to divide the games so each package would be equally appealing given the different number of games. Students can apply for either Package "A", Package "B", or both. They would also need to rank their preferences for "A" and "B" if they want both. Some sort of random system would be used to fill the requests, with the caveat that if someone gets their preferred package, they won't get the other unless there are some left over after all other requests have been processed.
I realize it'll still be a crap shoot in some cases, but it'll increase to chances of more students being able to attend some games even if it isn't the full schedule. And it's good for those who maybe can't or don't want to attend all the games. Finally, students who don't want to spend the money for the full schedule of games will have the option to spend less for fewer games.
Just my 2¢.
Divide the schedule into two separate packages. Of course, in most years one would have three games and the other would have four. I'm sure there's a way to divide the games so each package would be equally appealing given the different number of games. Students can apply for either Package "A", Package "B", or both. They would also need to rank their preferences for "A" and "B" if they want both. Some sort of random system would be used to fill the requests, with the caveat that if someone gets their preferred package, they won't get the other unless there are some left over after all other requests have been processed.
I realize it'll still be a crap shoot in some cases, but it'll increase to chances of more students being able to attend some games even if it isn't the full schedule. And it's good for those who maybe can't or don't want to attend all the games. Finally, students who don't want to spend the money for the full schedule of games will have the option to spend less for fewer games.
Just my 2¢.
I don’t know how exactly they do the lottery at Penn State, but when my daughter went to UF, your class standing had a lot to do with getting tickets. So priority was Senior>Junior>Sophomore >Freshman. Her freshman and sophomore years she got tickets to only a game or two. Once she reached junior status she was able to get the full season.
Of course when I went to Penn State, every student who wanted tickets got them at the expensive price of $2 per game.
Of course when I went to Penn State, every student who wanted tickets got them at the expensive price of $2 per game.
I mentioned something like this a few years ago, I personally think its a great idea.
The person I talked to told me the issue was not knowing early enough which game(s) would be the white out and night games. I personally think they can get around that with what you mentioned but maybe didnt have another school to base it off of.
Some students just but tickets to re-sell them for profit. Known fact. I say when a student applies for the lottery, PSU should check their history of actually using the ticket as they should have the data. If they used the ticket themselves for a majority of the games, say like 6 of the 7, then they get tickets again. If they transfer the majority of them, like 5 of the 7, then they don't get tickets anymore. If you are a first year student, then you definitely get a ticket(this includes the kids that xfer in from a Commonwealth Campass). If the data shows the first year student transfer a majority(or all) of that seasons ticket then they are flagged from getting tickets in the future. I know many students that wanted tickets to actually go to the games but their friends get tickets and don't go and sell them to people for profit instead of face value to friends. Kids want to make a buck but there are things PSU can do so that kids who want tickets to actually attend the game get them. There has to be data on those getting tickets and then transferring them to other. I am sure AI could identify patterns of students who just tickets for profit and block them and let actual students who want to go to the games get tickets. I think all student that want to buy tickets should be able to buy tickets and get rid of this lottery bs.
Another reason that NittPickers idea is great. They cant buy up tickets just to profit, or at least not as many.
If they have to use a lottery - I think that's a bad idea and they should return to first come/first serve online - I would like to see it be a weighted lottery. You get some sort of loyalty points by attending sporting events of all kinds. So students who attend more sporting events should get a greater chance. And this should include football tickets too, so if you got tickets last year but sold all of them online and didn't attend then your chances are less - and if you didn't get them, but bought them on the secondary market at an inflated price then you do get credit for attending.
(yes, Freshman would have to just be random amongst their class given they have no history.)
(yes, Freshman would have to just be random amongst their class given they have no history.)
I could be wrong but I think there’s still a kind of priority for upperclassmen it’s just a bit different. When they open registration for the lottery it is staggered by a day or two for each class with seniors opening first, then juniors, etc.
I think that they still give out the most tickets to seniors and the numbers decrease down to freshmen. Setting up the staggered lottery allows them to see how much demand there is for each class and plan accordingly.
You are correct that lots of students buy just to sell. I know some get tickets and don’t even go to a single game and never plan to go. It’s been that way since they started selling season tickets though. All you need is one big home game and you can sell that ticket and make a profit on the year.
Setting up some kind of electronic system for reselling where you can only get paid face value might be a simple solution.
I thought they tried something like that before? Dont they have a chip in their ID cards that tracks something like that? Maybe I am thinking of another school.
Or not arrive at all. There almost always seems to be a lot of empty seats in the upper SE corner of the stadium.Students buy early to arrive late.
I remember when student tickets were available to all. Seniors sat somewhere around the 30 yd line while freshmen were in the end zone. It sucked that my girlfriend was a year behind me. I had to sit in her section.
The best way to address this is to raise the prices every year until face value and after market pricing aligns. This is how you get original ticket buyers to attend the games.
When I had a Sophomore ticket, I would go up to the usher in the sophomore section and beg him to switch tickets. “Do you have a Senior ticket? Be a pal and switch with me.” I could be a charming guy when I needed to be.
I always tried to avoid Saturday classes but one semester I couldn't avoid it. I had classes first second and third period. That was bad enough but the professor in my 3rd period class saw football as a distraction to academics. We were lucky to get back to our dorm for lunch then up to Beaver Stadium in time for kickoff.Academic rigors don’t always allow one to go to a football game.
It's a good thing that today's college football players don't have to worry about academic rigors.Academic rigors don’t always allow one to go to a football game.
My first term I had an 8am Saturday class, Psychology. There was an attendance policy and I missed one class, cost me an A.
The lottery is so stupid as it gives tickets, I believe to students not at campus and they just get sold for ridiculous or Try to get ridiculous amounts for them. Meanwhile students that really want to go can’t get them. Two of my friends kids got them. 2 are seniors and 1 lid a freshman who has never been to a game and not a ton of interest. My daughter had them last year but she is in Spain this fall and my other daughter didn’t get them as a freshman now. Hopefully she makes blue band next week. Of course she will just sit in my seats when we don’t go up if she can’t get in.
Don’t know why they changed what they were doing for years.
Don’t know why they changed what they were doing for years.
- No matter what system there is, people will still will still be unhappy.
- Students have been reselling tickets for a profit for decades.
- Unused tickets have been an issue for decades. Even when you attended.
- If they seated the rest of the stadium the way they have done the students since the smoke bomb incident, you would see swaths of empty seats elsewhere.
- Giving brownie points for attending other sports is stupid.
- Going back to a system where you had to login and keep hitting refresh is even dumber than #5.
- On its face, going to package A or package B is interesting.
My understanding is that the Pitt student tickets surprisingly didn't sell out despite the offer of free carbonated non-alcoholic beverages for merely showing up.
Pitt Troll Boy. Do you have any other ingenious thread-starting topics to build your post count as a lame attempt to gain board credibility?
It isn’t even close to being like any of the old systems. . It is like when the bjc sold their season tickets to the wealthier people in Philly etc that never came to a game and the middle was empty for a basketball game. You have kids that want tickets to attend the games and they can’t because someone applied for a ticket that has no interest in football and now will try to sell their tickets for ridiculous prices. It is a bad policy.
I was there Fall 94-98 and yes there were a few who bought to sell, but I didnt know any personally. I do know from from some current students and recent graduates that many more kids who do buy the tickets only want to sell them or just go to the whiteout.
It is much easier to resell tickets these days than it was back in the 90's. No matter what you do to try to prevent it, people can find ways around it unless you make the tickets non transferrable.
I think the lottery was an attempt to limit the number of tickets available to students. I think the reason was that a lot of students were no shows and the administration thought they could sell those seats for more money.
We got married. I'm lucky she lets me stay in the same house.
OK but it's still student to student. Empty seats mean somebody isn't showing up.
I think you are right. Daughter got them for third year in a row now Junior tickets but the profit some make by reselling is crazy. Now sure why all branch kids also get the same chance for tickets when most won’t come for games.
It wasn't always like that... they said they checked ID's but they didn't. From the late 1990s through the early 2000s I'd post on the ticket exchange board looking for student tickets and never had any issues getting into the student section. It all changed after the 2001 expansion. I remember the Nebraska game in 2002 was the first big game where Penn State notified students they would actually start checking ID's....
Then they were more lax in 2003 and 2004 (I'd assume because given the product on the field they just wanted butts in the seats. My Freshman year was 2005 and they were lax about it early on, then the team took off, student tickets sold out midway through the season and they were much more strict.
2006 was the first year I remember them actually physically checking everyone's IDs. The change pissed a lot of people off, now it's a known you need your ID to get in.
Maryland does something like that (all their sports tickets are free for students, albeit with mandatory student fees covering the costs) so you might be thinking of that.
Everyone wants to complain but it's not really a significant issue. Yes, some tickets are purchased for resale. But they have to be purchased by a student and sold to a student (or at least you aren't supposed to be able to get into the student section without an ID) so how would you suggest policing that? Do they have to complete some sort of a quiz on general PSU football knowledge before they can buy so they can prove themselves worthy of purchasing?
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