ACC status?
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Does anybody actually still want Florida state though?
Florida state fans seem to think the big ten wants them
FSU put one of it's worst teams on the field last year - and still averaged ~700,000 more eyeballs a game than Iowa.
FSU just doesn't move the needle like Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska.
Well, we might move the needle, but we certainly haven't moved the ball better than any of those three lately.
Belem: If you said it's all about money, I would have a hard time disagreeing with you. FSU draws eyeballs, and probably has a good shot at getting into either the SEC or the B1G if that is the way they want to go. The payouts to SEC and B1G member schools are clearly higher than they are to ACC schools. But query whether the SEC or B1G would make FSU labor under a reduced share for a number of years as a condition of joining.
Further, these super conferences are becoming an unwieldy agglomeration of schools that have no history of playing each other and no natural, geographical connection to each other. Travel to games becomes more costly, and more burdensome on student-athletes' schedules. This matters less in football, which is one game per week, but it matters a lot for other sports like basketball, which feature multiple games per week.
Would you even WANT your Seminoles to move to the B1G? My sturdy Golden Bears are, along with Stanford, playing in the ACC and getting a very reduced payout for the privilege. The travel is absurd. I would much prefer it if Cal and Stanford bailed on the ACC and went back to the reformulated Pac-10 or 12, but that is certainly not my call.
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The folks with the $$$$ care. And they're the only ones who matter, unfortunately.
The B1G doesn't have a school in Florida, the nation's 3rd most populous state and arguably the best high school football recruiting state in the country (yes, I see you Texas). And even in a crappy season, FSU was still one of the ACC's biggest television draws. Networks don't care whether people tune in because they love you or hope you lose, they care that they tune in.
So, adding FSU gives the B1G premium TV inventory like OSU–FSU, Michigan–FSU, Penn State–FSU, Oregon–FSU, etc. and eyeballs. Now, does that guarantee they invites FSU? Nope. But pretending they wouldn't have interest ignores what has driven every major round of realignment over the last decade--
Who needs a school in florida when all your alumni retire there?The B1G doesn't have a school in Florida, the nation's 3rd most populous state and arguably the best high school football recruiting state in the country (yes, I see you Texas). And even in a crappy season, FSU was still one of the ACC's biggest television draws. Networks don't care whether people tune in because they love you or hope you lose, they care that they tune in.
So, adding FSU gives the B1G premium TV inventory like OSU–FSU, Michigan–FSU, Penn State–FSU, Oregon–FSU, etc. and eyeballs. Now, does that guarantee they invites FSU? Nope. But pretending they wouldn't have interest ignores what has driven every major round of realignment over the last decade--
On one hand, the travel sucks for the students.The B1G doesn't have a school in Florida, the nation's 3rd most populous state and arguably the best high school football recruiting state in the country (yes, I see you Texas). And even in a crappy season, FSU was still one of the ACC's biggest television draws. Networks don't care whether people tune in because they love you or hope you lose, they care that they tune in.
So, adding FSU gives the B1G premium TV inventory like OSU–FSU, Michigan–FSU, Penn State–FSU, Oregon–FSU, etc. and eyeballs. Now, does that guarantee they invites FSU? Nope. But pretending they wouldn't have interest ignores what has driven every major round of realignment over the last decade--
On the other, I've gotten to see FSU teams play several times over the past 2 years!
I think all this realignment sucks, but I'm old and no one cares what I think.
I agree
Yup. I went to SMU and watched us get smeared up and down the field. (butthole student body too). Going back in 2028 too.
LOL, you're right. I tacked that final paragraph on as an afterthought, which made the intro to the penultimate paragraph problematic. I'm fixing it. By the same token, you need to put those exclamation marks inside your quotation marks.
You can't have a paragraph after "Lastly"!!!
Purdue feels left out.
What would that do to Tobacco Road/ACC basketball? Heaven forfend!Carolina likely ends up in the SEC.
LOL, you're right. I tacked that final paragraph on as an afterthought, which made the intro to the penultimate paragraph problematic. I'm fixing it. By the same token, you need to put those exclamation marks inside your quotation marks.
In American English, exclamation points (and question marks) go inside the quotation marks only if they are part of the quoted material. Otherwise, they stay outside.
I like SMU's stadium. You're right about their students/crowd though. They do have some really attractive rich girls though.
I agree
Yup. I went to SMU and watched us get smeared up and down the field. (butthole student body too). Going back in 2028 too.
SEC can have UNC but I’ll give UNC head coach’s lady friend my Big Ten.
Someone threw some bleach in the wash.
They stopped the game twice for students throwing crap at the FSU bench. Then afterwards a bunch of twatwaffles were taunting an elderly FSU couple, then in the restroom they were taunting my son (11 at the time) w/ the Tomahawk chop right at his face while he's trying to take a piss.
Norvell is going to lead FSU out of the ACC and into the AAC
They were just pointing which way to kick the soccer ball.They stopped the game twice for students throwing crap at the FSU bench. Then afterwards a bunch of twatwaffles were taunting an elderly FSU couple, then in the restroom they were taunting my son (11 at the time) w/ the Tomahawk chop right at his face while he's trying to take a piss.
OT: So glad we're talking about football again. I miss the Whorechant Smackboard and posting over on Gatorbait. I'd much rather argue over sports than politics any day of the week.
That sounds right. A bunch of spoiled pricks who've never had to be held accountable for anything.They stopped the game twice for students throwing crap at the FSU bench. Then afterwards a bunch of twatwaffles were taunting an elderly FSU couple, then in the restroom they were taunting my son (11 at the time) w/ the Tomahawk chop right at his face while he's trying to take a piss.
The SEC might take dook for the basketball cachet. Having UNC, dook, and UK under one umbrella would be interesting. They do field a better football team than UNC lately but that’s not saying much. Nobody else in the ACC really matters. Losing Wake or NCSU won’t keep anyone up at night.
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has any body else noticed that women seem to start out looking like those in the video.....but, I live in an over 55 community (don't ever do that) and I can tell you they don't end up the same way. Men, on the other hand,....
Wife asked if I wanted to go to the Stanford football game. I laughed.
I agree
Yup. I went to SMU and watched us get smeared up and down the field. (butthole student body too). Going back in 2028 too.
We did go see the softball team play Stanford and man, they've earned that reputation of as.shole fans.
LOL, you're right. I tacked that final paragraph on as an afterthought, which made the intro to the penultimate paragraph problematic. I'm fixing it. By the same token, you need to put those exclamation marks inside your quotation marks.
Your descent from reasoned moderate to far left loon has been mirrored in your comparative mastery of the English language.
It's tough to watch.
The Stanford/FSU game was the most miserable football experience that I have had since the OU game at the Orange Bowl. At least Oregon had the decency to crush all hope for a win by the second quarter at the Rose Bowl.
I went to a football game at Stanford once upon a time back in 2016. It was CMC's last season. Vs Oregon State. He had 199 yards rushing in maybe the quietest big-time performance I've seen. I didn't notice the fans being as.holes. If anything it was a bunch of hippies. Their band was a lot of fun to pay attention to.
Sidenote: While me and my buddy were tailgating, this large group next to us really took it to the next level. They had one of the larger tailgating bar setups I've seen (at least for a non-sponsored tailgate). Then they had these guys come out to cook whole pigs on a spit. The problem was they used some of the school's steel barricades for their spit, and just set their fire on the ground. It was good watching the police/fire dept come out and explain to these people that they couldn't do that. Waste of good pigs though.
/csb
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