Duke's Roster

[Anon200440]

Duke loves Cal. His tournament failure with top talent the last decade takes some of the spotlight off how badly Duke has choked the last ten years

Might be delusional

 

[UKCowboys]

Might be delusional

If those Duke teams had been UK teams under Cal, Cal would have gotten crushed for never winning a Championship in a decade they had the best team 3-4 times. Fact

 

[Anon200440]

If those Duke teams had been UK teams under Cal, Cal would have gotten crushed for never winning a Championship in a decade they had the best team 3-4 times. Fact

Coming from an ohio state fb fan, the best team doesnt always win. Thank you.

 

[davtay]

Coming from an ohio state fb fan, the best team doesnt always win. Thank you.

THIS explains so much about you.

 

[SenseMaker_Cats]

Coming from an ohio state fb fan, the best team doesnt always win. Thank you.

Did your dad show you game tape of J.T. Barrett when you were 10 years old causing you to fall in love with the Buckeyes?

 

[Anon200440]

Did your dad show you game tape of J.T. Barrett when you were 10 years old causing you to fall in love with the Buckeyes?

No but I met JT playing cornhole at a osu bball game tho

 

[Anon200440]

THIS explains so much about you.

How

 

[davtay]

How

According to your previous posts, wins aren't as important as the "style" you play. You only want "stars" and high recruits. Among other things.

 

[Anon200440]

According to your previous posts, wins aren't as important as the "style" you play. You only want "stars" and high recruits. Among other things.

Osu literally won the natty 2 years ago and always competes while having a fun playstyle

I just wish Kentucky could do that again

 

[UKCowboys]

Coming from an ohio state fb fan, the best team doesnt always win. Thank you.

Yall didn't have the best team last year fella

 

[Anon200440]

Yall didn't have the best team last year fella

Didn't say that, but being a osu fb fan you see that the best team doesn't always win, but talent USUALLY wins in the end

games last year where we didnt have a ton of energy but end up winning by 40+

 

[ScWildcat3]

Basketball title is hardest of the big 3 in college to win.

 

[RunninRichie]

That’s all ANY duke fan does! Every.single.last.one! I’ve never witnessed a duke fan NOT use arbitrary timelines. Ever.

UNC fans also and UCONN. Unc fans love saying "since 2000 we have 3 titles to your 1". They back that up 5 years and they're tied with UK. So they slash off the 1995 and say "this century". It's funny.

 

[BookofMormon]

Duke loves Cal. His tournament failure with top talent the last decade takes some of the spotlight off how badly Duke has choked the last ten years

This doc is fairly interesting. Not sure if it's AI narrating, but a really good storyteller. It walks through the entire saga of Duke and how the brand began and built over time.



The doc walks through how K made a conscious effort to move from the standard K multi year kid, to the OAD around 2011, which started with Kyrie. If you look at his classes, they changed drastically. They were bigger and featured the NBA profiles. Almost half of K's McD AA's came after 2011. This coincides almost exactly with a couple things:

Calipari swinging from Memphis to Kentucky. Calipari was always an amazing recruiter, but you wonder with the UK brand behind him, if it scared K a bit into realizing he needed to go after the NBA stuff, not just the Jon Scheyer's of the world.

Was also after UNC won their second title in 4 years. That's always a lot of pressure on Tobacco road.

Self also won his in 2008.

That juncture between 2005 and 2010 was an interesting one. Cal to UK, Roy winning title at UNC, KU winning it's first title in ages. The Blue Blood heat was on. Calhoun was trying to keep up and it sank him into suspension and parole.

Wild when you look at it - since 2004, there have been 21 National Champions, 17 of those amongst 6 schools. (Kansas 2, Duke 2, UNC 3, Nova 2, UConn 5, Florida 3). UK/Louisville have their one each and then a couple random one off's: Virginia and Baylor. It really isn't that easy to win these things and a pretty exclusive club.

 

[Neal Orac]

 

[CRZ4UK]

You guys are starting to sound like Hoosier fans obsessing over the Watford shot game.

It was one game in f'n November and their 17-year-old superstar tightened up late.

I'll take the guy that has gone 35-4 and 35-3 his last two years coaching over whatever the **** you losers think Pope can magically turn out to be in year 12 as a head coach. It's clear as day who has been more successful unless you're brain dead.

Then you should go be a Duke fan. Kentucky doesn’t have their money, Kentucky doesn’t have their brand, Kentucky is not Nikes Flagship. Kentucky is not ESPNs and the National Media darling. Kentucky doesn’t have Judges and corporate CEOs all over this country. Kentucky doesn’t run USA under 18 basketball. Duke has all of those.
Kentucky isn’t Duke.
Their coach isn’t the person responsible for their success. It’s their administration, money and political connections.
We don’t have that. We had Mitch Barnhart. If you want to lay blame on our program being where it’s at start there. We had an AD for 25 years who cared more about diversity and money than winning. Mitch killed Kentucky basketball. He didn’t adapt.
The coaches could be switched and I’m willing to bet Pope would excel at Duke. Almost any decent coach would. Scheyer would lose 10 games a season here probably much worse. He wouldn’t even know where to begin recruiting here.

 

[UKCowboys]

Then you should go be a Duke fan. Kentucky doesn’t have their money, Kentucky doesn’t have their brand, Kentucky is not Nikes Flagship. Kentucky is not ESPNs and the National Media darling. Kentucky doesn’t have Judges and corporate CEOs all over this country. Kentucky doesn’t run USA under 18 basketball. Duke has all of those.
Kentucky isn’t Duke.
Their coach isn’t the person responsible for their success. It’s their administration, money and political connections.
We don’t have that. We had Mitch Barnhart. If you want to lay blame on our program being where it’s at start there. We had an AD for 25 years who cared more about diversity and money than winning. Mitch killed Kentucky basketball. He didn’t adapt.
The coaches could be switched and I’m willing to bet Pope would excel at Duke. Almost any decent coach would. Scheyer would lose 10 games a season here probably much worse. He wouldn’t even know where to begin recruiting here.

He is already a Duke fan, trolling on a UK site

 

[BookofMormon]

Then you should go be a Duke fan. Kentucky doesn’t have their money, Kentucky doesn’t have their brand, Kentucky is not Nikes Flagship. Kentucky is not ESPNs and the National Media darling. Kentucky doesn’t have Judges and corporate CEOs all over this country. Kentucky doesn’t run USA under 18 basketball. Duke has all of those.
Kentucky isn’t Duke.
Their coach isn’t the person responsible for their success. It’s their administration, money and political connections.
We don’t have that. We had Mitch Barnhart. If you want to lay blame on our program being where it’s at start there. We had an AD for 25 years who cared more about diversity and money than winning. Mitch killed Kentucky basketball. He didn’t adapt.
The coaches could be switched and I’m willing to bet Pope would excel at Duke. Almost any decent coach would. Scheyer would lose 10 games a season here probably much worse. He wouldn’t even know where to begin recruiting here.

Was given keys to a rolls royce - looking forward to watching him crash it again. He's a crap coach.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

Calipari believed his reputation for putting guys in the league would carry him through without deep pockets. He was wrong just like Mitch was. Just look at Stoops as well.
NIL adopted 2021
Stoops records

Season	Overall	SEC	Bowl Game
2021	10-2	5–3	Won the Citrus Bowl
2022	7-6	3–5	Lost the Music City Bowl
2023	7-6	3–5	Lost the Gator Bowl
2024	4-8	1–7	No bowl
2025	57	2–6	No bowl

No coach could have succeeded under Mitch’s NIL stance. It’s why he was forced out. Barnhart wasn’t going anywhere. He was removed. He got to say he retired.

For two years Mitch blocked even collectives at UK. It was insane and based solely on personal morality. Even after that, all he did was remove the restriction but the coaches had to raise their own money with ZERO support from the school.

You're right imo about that being the crack that eventually spread to end his career.

Also by the time Cal left, I was way over him too but its pretty crazy to think a living hall of famer left for a much lesser program citing no nil help from the ad. That didn't get nearly the attention it deserved. Yet we all know Mitch was Teflon as evidenced by his ability to just shrug off the swimming scandal.

 

[CRZ4UK]

For two years Mitch blocked even collectives at UK. It was insane and based solely on personal morality. Even after that, all he did was remove the restriction but the coaches had to raise their own money with ZERO support from the school.

You're right imo about that being the crack that eventually spread to end his career.

Also by the time Cal left, I was way over him too but its pretty crazy to think a living hall of famer left for a much lesser program citing no nil help from the ad. That didn't get nearly the attention it deserved. Yet we all know Mitch was Teflon as evidenced by his ability to just shrug off the swimming scandal.

Why don’t many others see this and blame Calipari, Stoops and Especially Pope is beyond me.
They use Stein as an example of great recruiting lol. Can’t be NIL. They say. Look at Stein.
Our Football team will end up barely top 20 maybe. We will end up 10th out of 14 teams in our league. While I credit Stein for doing that at Kentucky. Stoops also had 2 classes right outside the top 20. That’s not recruiting with the big boys. Pope hasn’t missed all these top players that have visited because he’s goofy or can’t coach. It’s money and the administration. Mitch is gone. Let’s see if we can turn this around. If I was the new AD. My first call would be to Nike. What can we do to win back your support.

 

[Johnny_Jeepers]

He is already a Duke fan, trolling on a UK site

This guy isn't even a real cowboy.

Gun to your head, if you could snap your fingers and swap out Scheyer for Pope, all of you all would do it with glee. Scheyer is clearly a more successful coach and recruiter.

 

[UKCowboys]

This guy isn't even a real cowboy.

Gun to your head, if you could snap your fingers and swap out Scheyer for Pope, all of you all would do it with glee. Scheyer is clearly a more successful coach and recruiter.

Not impressed