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[PW Herman]

Tesla model Y is a great car. I’ve only driven Tesla
electric cars, but all electric cars have the same one pedal driving, which is my favorite feature.

Tesla charging network is inperarive imo. Make sure whatever car is compatible with Tesla charging network, I think they all are now but not sure

Most people who go EV don’t go back, because they like the way they drive so much better.


And last, everyone’s different, but the batteries are plenty big for me.

The only thing I would not recommend a EV for is someone who regularly drives more than 4 hours in one direction or towing large things.

Holy ****! Did.you just act like an actual human being for a moment? Good to know under all that douchebag, there is semblance of normal. Happy Sunday!!

 

[SB_SB]

Depends on budget. My current preference is for Tesla because they win on charging network, advanced driving features, and company stability. But the brand I really want to see succeed is Lucid - great vehicles with giant batteries. The problem is the company is not financially sound, they might be too pricey for most people and they are behind on automated driving. Lucids can use the a Tesla network with an adapter so that is not really a barrier.

FYI there are plenty of Tesla chargers between Chicago and Mackinaw island. I‘ve driven part of that route multiple times to go to Michigan and Michigan State with my current (11 year old) Model S. Chargers are not a barrier for routes like that IMO.

Thanks. We've always had SUV's (that sit up higher) and don't want to go back to a car like feel. And I'm not sure I want to drive a car that's associated with Musk. If I had purchased the car years ago then it would be different. With the little we drive locally (we both WFH), we'll probably stay with something similar to what we have now, a Honda and Toyota SUV.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Thanks. We've always had SUV's (that sit up higher) and don't want to go back to a car like feel. And I'm not sure I want to drive a car that's associated with Musk. If I had purchased the car years ago then it would be different. With the little we drive locally (we both WFH), we'll probably stay with something similar to what we have now, a Honda and Toyota SUV.

I can appreciate the Musk thing…dude is more than a little wack-a-doodle. Still they make great cars.

I would check out Rivian in your case. At least give one a test drive if you can do that near you So you get a feel for the difference between EV and ICE.

 

[GesterHawk]

Zip it you librol. I also need to throw in a 'but Biden'. And cannot forget 'you have TDS!'

Hunter's Laptop!!!

 

[GesterHawk]

There are 8 EVs available right now with an estimated range at full charge over 400 miles. The top one (Lucid Air) has a range of over 500 miles and charges another 200 miles in 12 minutes.

Now all of that is in perfect conditions without hills to climb so its not quite as rosy as that. Still, gone are the days when you charge every two hours. You can quite easily expect to go 4 hours at 80 miles/hour. Take a quick bio and food break, then go another 2-3 hours.

Any farther than that and people are often flying. In less than 5 years I expect EVs will have eliminated the range issue for 99.99% of us.

I want about 8 hours of highway speed w/ AC cranked. That will suit any need I have for distance travel.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

I want about 8 hours of highway speed w/ AC cranked. That will suit any need I have for distance travel.

With no break? Your bladder is better than mine. The top end EVs are almost there if you take 2-3 15 min breaks on the way.

 

[GesterHawk]

With no break? Your bladder is better than mine. The top end EVs are almost there if you take 2-3 15 min breaks on the way.

I am young enough that it doesn't take me 15 minutes to pee yet

 

[Billanole.]

I am young enough that it doesn't take me 15 minutes to pee yet

What do you drive now that can go 8 hours at highway speed w/AC cranked?
That’s over 500 miles, right?

 

[GesterHawk]

What do you drive now that can go 8 hours at highway speed w/AC cranked?
That’s over 500 miles, right?

I can get about 400 in my rogue.

 

[Billanole.]

I can get about 400 in my rogue.

Yeah, I get a bit over 425 in my Civic, but that a’int 8 hours at highway speed. More like 6 hours at 70.

 

[GesterHawk]

Yeah, I get a bit over 425 in my Civic, but that a’int 8 hours at highway speed. More like 6 hours at 70.

One 8 minute fill and pee if it is just me.

 

[TequilasForLoss]

Had a Tesla 3 for three years until I took a WFH job and sold it when used-car prices were at their peak. Basically drove the thing for free for three years. I won't give Elon my money again but I'll definitely buy another electric when they get greater range. Right now for a household that does a lot of road trips, one EV and one gas vehicle still makes sense. For families who don't tow a boat/RV often or do a lot of road trips, and with gas prices where they currently are (not to mention near-zero maintenance costs on an electric motor), two EVs and just renting a car for a road trip makes a ton of sense.

 

[Towlie]

Tesla model Y is a great car. I’ve only driven Tesla
electric cars, but all electric cars have the same one pedal driving, which is my favorite feature.

Tesla charging network is inperarive imo. Make sure whatever car is compatible with Tesla charging network, I think they all are now but not sure

Most people who go EV don’t go back, because they like the way they drive so much better.


And last, everyone’s different, but the batteries are plenty big for me.

The only thing I would not recommend a EV for is someone who regularly drives more than 4 hours in one direction or towing large things.

Watched a YouTube video of a guy with the new Chevy electric truck with the largest battery offered. He was using it to tow a trailer that wasn't heavy but had poor aerodynamics. He was able to average about 90 minutes of driving before needing to recharge. He says the consistency of chargers across the country is poor. For every 90 minutes of driving, he averaged 40 minutes to recharge. Not good.

 

[fatpiggy]

Watched a YouTube video of a guy with the new Chevy electric truck with the largest battery offered. He was using it to tow a trailer that wasn't heavy but had poor aerodynamics. He was able to average about 90 minutes of driving before needing to recharge. He says the consistency of chargers across the country is poor. For every 90 minutes of driving, he averaged 40 minutes to recharge. Not good.

Towing crushes mileage, so I believe it. I’ve never had a problem with charging on the Tesla superchargers, they are almost always online and working and they are plentiful.

People often misunderstand charging thinking you charge the full 30 minutes or so at every stop. The truth is, You usually only charge for a few minutes to top off until you get to your destination. You may charge 5-10 minutes on a 4 hour trip. However, it does become cumbersome after that 4 hour mark (for me, imo).

Last, everyday you wake up with 300 miles. If you aren’t going at least that far, you will never have to charge because you just charge at home.

 

[hawkeyetraveler]

Towing crushes mileage, so I believe it. I’ve never had a problem with charging on the Tesla superchargers, they are almost always online and working and they are plentiful.

People often misunderstand charging thinking you charge the full 30 minutes or so at every stop. The truth is, You usually only charge for a few minutes to top off until you get to your destination. You may charge 5-10 minutes on a 4 hour trip. However, it does become cumbersome after that 4 hour mark (for me, imo).

Last, everyday you wake up with 300 miles. If you aren’t going at least that far, you will never have to charge because you just charge at home.

Exactly right on overnight charging. I once calculated the overall time savings in your life from owning an EV.

• Let’s assume it takes the average person 5 mins to fill up their gas tank between driving to the station, filling and getting back on the road.
• Assuming you fill your tank on average 1x every 2 weeks that is: 26x5 = 130 mins/year
• Lets assume you get an oil change 3x per year at 30 mins each time (drive there, wait, drive home): 30x3=90 mins/year
• EVs have substantially fewer moving parts so there are far less things to fix as they age. I’m not counting any of that, but you could reasonably include some time savings here

So on average if an EV was just your daily commuter vehicle with no long trips you save 220 mins per year (3 hours 40 minutes). The other way to look at it is you have 3:40 to play with on roadtrips. Assuming you spend 30 minutes charging on an average long trip that means you can take 6 roadtrips per year and still have time saved over ICE vehicles.

And many people fill up weekly. That math = 5 hours 50 minutes of time savings per year.