EARLY 2026-27 lineup projections/discussions

Nitfan

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If Levi gets a 5th year....

How about 157 James 165 Duke 174 Mitchell 184 Haines and give Welch the year off.
 
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Atrain83

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James taking a gap year makes the most sense since he would still get 5 years going forward given his age.
It makes sense for the program but would he want to defer a year? He’s been wrestling great and probably feels like he could win a title this year.
 

El_Jefe

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It makes sense for the program but would he want to defer a year? He’s been wrestling great and probably feels like he could win a title this year.
OTOH: imagine James after a free year at NLWC.

We'll see about him, but there is precedent. I'm sure Nico felt no less convinced he could win a title the year he shirted, due to being a 2x national finalist.
 

Wrestleknownothing

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Interesting broadside from The Texas Trial Group. I, too, cringed when Baker called the athletes failed professionals. Kind of exposes the lie of their, "X% of athletes go pro in something other than sports" feel-good-but-don't-pay-them ad campaign.

 

Corby2

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Interesting broadside from The Texas Trial Group. I, too, cringed when Baker called the athletes failed professionals. Kind of exposes the lie of their, "X% of athletes go pro in something other than sports" feel-good-but-don't-pay-them ad campaign.


What I have been told is regardless what happens in the Senate and House this wouldn't become a thing until mid September at that point athletes will be playing football and others enrolled and training for winter sports. The sports act being signed in mid September wouldn't effect the judges ruling in Colorado. Once it's signed it would be the rules for the future it won't be retroactive
 

Tom McAndrew

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@Tom McAndrew the "If Levi gets a fifth year" thread now links to the "Early 2026/27 lineup..." thread. Was the intent to switch titles in the merge?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.

I did merge the thread about if Levi gets a 5th year into the lineup projections/discussions thread, as that was what it was. When I merged the threads, I kept the Levi thread up for a couple of hours, so that the OP and others know what happen to the discussion. However, in doing that, it makes the standalone thread inactive. Nothing changed in the titles of the lineup projections thread, so I'm a tad confused by your question.
 

Wrestleknownothing

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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.

I did merge the thread about if Levi gets a 5th year into the lineup projections/discussions thread, as that was what it was. When I merged the threads, I kept the Levi thread up for a couple of hours, so that the OP and others know what happen to the discussion. However, in doing that, it makes the standalone thread inactive. Nothing changed in the titles of the lineup projections thread, so I'm a tad confused by your question.
That makes two of us. It confused me that clicking on one thread title took me to a thread with a different title. But now I get it.
 

El_Jefe

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OK, I admit -- I stole and adapted the Lewan joke from Phillies broadcaster, former MLB relief pitcher, and legendary not serious person Larry Andersen.

A few years ago, Andersen claimed he hit .333 in his MLB career. Which is hilarious, because he probably didn't get 10 career hits. When challenged by his broadcast partner, he said he got hits in 4 out of 12 seasons.

A light-hitting relief pitcher seemed analogous to Lewan.
 

Goggles Paisano

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NCAA administrators and their Attorneys are over paid.

Lacking basic common sense, even an inkling of cause and effect, and what will inevitably be challenged, successfully! Seems to be a consistent pattern.

Enough said.
 
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Nitlion1986

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What I have been told is regardless what happens in the Senate and House this wouldn't become a thing until mid September at that point athletes will be playing football and others enrolled and training for winter sports. The sports act being signed in mid September wouldn't effect the judges ruling in Colorado. Once it's signed it would be the rules for the future it won't be retroactive
Just guessing, but whatever Congress comes up with will struggle to survive court challenges.
 
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PSU Mike

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OK, I admit -- I stole and adapted the Lewan joke from Phillies broadcaster, former MLB relief pitcher, and legendary not serious person Larry Andersen.

A few years ago, Andersen claimed he hit .333 in his MLB career. Which is hilarious, because he probably didn't get 10 career hits. When challenged by his broadcast partner, he said he got hits in 4 out of 12 seasons.

A light-hitting relief pitcher seemed analogous to Lewan.
Was he better in freestyle baseball — that is the question?
 

zzs006

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Is anyone worried that we end up losing James if Levi comes back? Everyone is talking like a greyshirt is a no brainer but James can compete for a national title this year. Maybe he doesn’t want to sit and decides to go somewhere he can wrestle this year. Losing him would not be worth 1 more year of Levi in my opinion
 

Corby2

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Is anyone worried that we end up losing James if Levi comes back? Everyone is talking like a greyshirt is a no brainer but James can compete for a national title this year. Maybe he doesn’t want to sit and decides to go somewhere he can wrestle this year. Losing him would not be worth 1 more year of Levi in my opinion
I don't see James going anywhere
 

LB99

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Is anyone worried that we end up losing James if Levi comes back? Everyone is talking like a greyshirt is a no brainer but James can compete for a national title this year. Maybe he doesn’t want to sit and decides to go somewhere he can wrestle this year. Losing him would not be worth 1 more year of Levi in my opinion
Lost in all of this speculation and conjecture is the fact that, if healthy, Kasak would be a major roadblock to James getting the starting spot regardless of any 5 for 5 plan.
 
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Nitlion1986

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Congress passes laws. The courts then apply the laws. Unless the law is deemed unconstitutional I am not sure what the challenge could be.
While writing this law Cruz and his peers have listened to what Nick Saban thinks is good for college football, they have heard from the NCAA, the Big10 and SEC. I haven't read anything about any student-athletes being ask what they think, nor any having any input. If these student-athletes see their annual incomes decline from several million a year to a couple hundred thousand, or maybe drop from a couple hundred thousand to 25,000 a year and their ability to shop their services to a higher bidder is restricted due to transfer restrictions and these haven't been negotiated I have a tough time seeing that survive a court challenge.
 

o_BruceK-PSU83

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4 in 5 would have solved everything :)
4 in 5 is still allowed and could still be done. The only difference now is that, unlike previously, a season of eligibility would be lost instead of a redshirt year. Granted, it's a significant distinction.

However, if 5 in 5 is viewed relative to the previous system, it adds flexibility, rather than decreases it.
 

LB99

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While writing this law Cruz and his peers have listened to what Nick Saban thinks is good for college football, they have heard from the NCAA, the Big10 and SEC. I haven't read anything about any student-athletes being ask what they think, nor any having any input. If these student-athletes see their annual incomes decline from several million a year to a couple hundred thousand, or maybe drop from a couple hundred thousand to 25,000 a year and their ability to shop their services to a higher bidder is restricted due to transfer restrictions and these haven't been negotiated I have a tough time seeing that survive a court challenge.
You mean if they have to return to being closer to “student” athletes again?
 
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