Marco Rubio wants to defend America — from largely imaginary threats

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio is either the luckiest or the shrewdest member of the Trump cabinet —maybe both. His good fortune has been that President Donald Trump has handed the most intractable diplomatic problems — ending the U.S.-Iran and Russia-Ukraine wars — to someone else: special envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner and, in the case of Iran, to Rubio’s presumed rival for the 2028 Republican nomination, Vice President JD Vance. Neither set of negotiations is showing much progress, but Rubio escapes the fallout.


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The secretary of state is smart enough to pick on enemies that, unlike Russia or Iran, are less likely to effectively push back. In the past few weeks, Rubio has targeted the International Criminal Court (ICC), the Communist regime in Cuba and left-wing extremists in ways that are sure to please a president who is campaigning against the “communist menace” without running the risk of any serious blowback. That’s because the threats that Rubio claims to be fighting are vastly, ludicrously overblown.



In a July 13 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, Rubio claimed that “U.S. soldiers, police officers, Border Patrol agents and elected leaders could be dragged before an international court, tried by judges from random countries across the globe, found guilty under international laws we neither consent to nor control, and then imprisoned thousands of miles from America.” He vowed to prevent this far-fetched scenario by dismantling the ICC — “brick by brick, if necessary.”
Yet the only time the ICC has investigated U.S. troops was in 2020, when the chief prosecutor briefly looked into alleged U.S. misconduct in Afghanistan. That investigation was soon dropped, and there has not been another ICC case involving the United States since.
Because the United States is not a party to the ICC, there is no way Border Patrol agents or police officers could possibly be indicted. There is a theoretical risk of U.S. soldiers being tried if they are accused of war crimes in countries that belong to the ICC. Elected leaders could conceivably be indicted, too, if they issue illegal orders to those soldiers. But in practice either scenario is very unlikely, because more than 100 countries have promised not to extradite Americans to The Hague. Iran is not a party to the ICC, and it would be difficult for the ICC to establish jurisdiction over seemingly unlawful U.S. attacks on alleged drug boats in international waters —especially now that Venezuela, where many of the boats are likely registered, has withdrawn from the ICC under U.S. pressure.



Perhaps Rubio is actually concerned about the threat not to the U.S. but to Israel, since the ICC issued an arrest warrant in 2024 for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (along with a now-dead Hamas commander). New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani briefly threatened to enforce the warrant when Netanyahu comes to New York, but the city’s lawyers told him he did not have the authority to do so.
The reality is that, while the court is flawed, it can also be useful — as Rubio himself recognized in 2022 when, as a senator, he supported the ICC’s investigation of Russian war crimes in Ukraine.
When not hyping the ICC threat, Rubio is hyping the Cuban threat. Last week the State Department issued a hyperbolic report that reads as if it were written by Joe McCarthy: “Cuba: The Capital of 21st Century Communism.” It claims that “the Cuban regime has waged a sustained campaign of subversion against the United States” that continues to the present day in the form of groups such as antifa and the Democratic Socialists of America. But it is heavy on history and light on evidence that current leftists are actually Cuban agents; presumably if such evidence existed, the Justice Department would indict them.



Most of the report is a walk down memory lane, blaming Cuba for supporting groups including the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers in the 1960s without mentioning the CIA’s efforts to overthrow the Cuban regime. It also alludes to the 1980s, when 49,000 Cuban personnel were deployed to Africa to support Soviet-backed regimes.
But those days are long gone. Today Cuba is a bankrupt country that, because of Marxist mismanagement and a crippling U.S. fuel blockade, can’t even keep its lights on. Its odious regime is a threat to its own people — not to the United States.





The State Department report appears to be a twofer: It can be used to support both a U.S. invasion of Cuba and a new Red Scare-style crackdown on progressive activists in the United States.
The latter motivation was obvious in the international conference that Rubio convened in mid-July to battle the supposed threat from left-wing extremism. He said that “the United States is building the infrastructure, the partnership, and the strategy to defeat the scourge of far-left terror,” but most of the examples he cited — from the Red Army Faction in West Germany to the Symbionese Liberation Army in the United States — are from the distant past.



A 2025 study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies found that left-wing violence in the U.S. has been rising in recent years but remains very low: “In the past decade … left-wing attacks have killed 13 victims, compared with 112 and 82 victims for right-wing and jihadist attacks, respectively.” The highest-profile recent cases of leftist violence were the horrifying killings of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, but in neither instance has evidence emerged linking the suspect to antifa or any other group.
The U.S. government should battle violent extremists of all persuasions — not just leftists. Unfortunately, Trump pardoned the Jan. 6, 2021, rioters, who committed the most serious act of political violence in modern U.S. history.

In vastly inflating the threats from what he calls “leftist nongovernment organizations, smug globalists, and hostile Third World governments,” Rubio is not advancing U.S. national interests. But he is advancing his own by improving his standing with Trump and his followers who were initially suspicious of his MAGA bona fides. It’s no coincidence that a recent poll showed him catching up to Vance in New Hampshire. Rubio is no more principled than Vance, but he’s a cleverer politician.

 

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This administration needs boogeymen to survive, and have been making new ones up every time their own administration/personal f'ups occur.

Cuba...lol. Cracks me up. Yeah, lets pick on them now because that's how desperately they need a win.
A police state dictatorship cracks you up?
 

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Without speaking for the individual you quoted, the laughable part is that Cuba is any type of threat to us. Thought that was kind of a no-brainer, but happy to point out obvious things.
not a major threat, no...but there was a story not long ago that claimed that Iran had sent the Shahed drones to cuba. These do have the capability to get to florida
 
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Without speaking for the individual you quoted, the laughable part is that Cuba is any type of threat to us. Thought that was kind of a no-brainer, but happy to point out obvious things.
Nothing laughable to decent people about a brutal regime just 90 miles from us that cooperates with our biggest enemies.
 
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not a major threat, no...but there was a story not long ago that claimed that Iran had sent the Shahed drones to cuba. These do have the capability to get to florida
Gotta be honest, I skim past most of your posts because they are usually drivel. This one is about the dumbest fudging thing I've seen from anyone lately. I find it increasingly hard to believe that there is a person typing these posts out.
 

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Mmmkay.

And they are a threat to mainland USA…how? Where is the “America First” here?
I didn't say Cuba is a threat to the US, but that there is nothing laughable about a nearby brutal regime. Do you find something funny about Cuba?
 

95Hawk

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I didn't say Cuba is a threat to the US, but that there is nothing laughable about a nearby brutal regime. Do you find something funny about Cuba?
I do. Their sandwiches present too much mustard

I thought we were gonna avoid state-building foreign policy under Trump 2.0. Cuz we’ve had so much success over the past 70 years.
 

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I'm more worried about whether the exact same thing happens here, considering the current path President Air Filter has us on.

I'll worry about Cuba the day they start lobbing bombs at us.
Are you an illegal immigrant ?
 

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No, I'm simply someone that isn't a typical MAGA goosestepping idiot like yourself.
What kind of nontypicalwq idiot are you if you are worried about a police state dictatorship?

Point to any Supreme Court rulings that Trump hasn't followed to back up your absurd concern. Not tariffs, not birthright citizenship. Point to one.
 

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What kind of nontypicalwq idiot are you if you are worried about a police state dictatorship?

Point to any Supreme Court rulings that Trump hasn't followed to back up your absurd concern. Not tariffs, not birthright citizenship. Point to one.

The MAGA movement pretty much checks off every fascism bulletpoint here...

Core Ideology and Control
    • Powerful Nationalism: Constant use of patriotic mottos, symbols, flags, and songs to foster intense national fervor.
    • Disdain for Human Rights: Persuading citizens that basic rights can be ignored out of a supposed "need" for security.
    • Identification of Scapegoats: Rallies and unifying frenzies built around eliminating a perceived common threat or minority group.
    • Controlled Mass Media: Direct or indirect government regulation of press and media outlets.
    • Obsession with National Security: Utilizing fear of foreign and domestic threats as a primary motivational tool.


Power Structure and Society
    • Supremacy of the Military: Disproportionate government funding and glorification given to military and martial power.
    • Rampant Sexism: Heavily male-dominated governments enforcing rigid, traditional patriarchal roles.
    • Religion and Government Intertwined: Ruling elites using dominant religious identities to shape public opinion and policy.
    • Protection of Corporate Power: Preserving the financial power of industrial and business elites.
    • Suppression of Labor Power: Eliminating or strictly controlling labor unions to prevent organized worker dissent.

Suppression of Dissent
    • Disdain for Intellectuals and Arts: Hostility toward academic freedom, free thought, and independent artistic expression.
    • Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Granting police unchecked, sweeping powers and prioritizing harsh punitive enforcement.
    • Cronyism and Corruption: Rewarding personal loyalty to the leader over professional competence within government circles.
    • Fraudulent Elections: Manipulating electoral processes, smearing opposition, or maintaining a fixed one-party state.
 

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The MAGA movement pretty much checks off every fascism bulletpoint here...

Core Ideology and Control
    • Powerful Nationalism: Constant use of patriotic mottos, symbols, flags, and songs to foster intense national fervor.
    • Disdain for Human Rights: Persuading citizens that basic rights can be ignored out of a supposed "need" for security.
    • Identification of Scapegoats: Rallies and unifying frenzies built around eliminating a perceived common threat or minority group.
    • Controlled Mass Media: Direct or indirect government regulation of press and media outlets.
    • Obsession with National Security: Utilizing fear of foreign and domestic threats as a primary motivational tool.


Power Structure and Society
    • Supremacy of the Military: Disproportionate government funding and glorification given to military and martial power.
    • Rampant Sexism: Heavily male-dominated governments enforcing rigid, traditional patriarchal roles.
    • Religion and Government Intertwined: Ruling elites using dominant religious identities to shape public opinion and policy.
    • Protection of Corporate Power: Preserving the financial power of industrial and business elites.
    • Suppression of Labor Power: Eliminating or strictly controlling labor unions to prevent organized worker dissent.

Suppression of Dissent
    • Disdain for Intellectuals and Arts: Hostility toward academic freedom, free thought, and independent artistic expression.
    • Obsession with Crime and Punishment: Granting police unchecked, sweeping powers and prioritizing harsh punitive enforcement.
    • Cronyism and Corruption: Rewarding personal loyalty to the leader over professional competence within government circles.
    • Fraudulent Elections: Manipulating electoral processes, smearing opposition, or maintaining a fixed one-party state.
Nice AI regurgitation, as absurd as it is, but the question was, which Supreme Court rulings has Trump ignored?
 

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Secretary of State Marco Rubio is either the luckiest or the shrewdest member of the Trump cabinet —maybe both. His good fortune has been that President Donald Trump has handed the most intractable diplomatic problems — ending the U.S.-Iran and Russia-Ukraine wars — to someone else: special envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner and, in the case of Iran, to Rubio’s presumed rival for the 2028 Republican nomination, Vice President JD Vance. Neither set of negotiations is showing much progress, but Rubio escapes the fallout.


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The secretary of state is smart enough to pick on enemies that, unlike Russia or Iran, are less likely to effectively push back. In the past few weeks, Rubio has targeted the International Criminal Court (ICC), the Communist regime in Cuba and left-wing extremists in ways that are sure to please a president who is campaigning against the “communist menace” without running the risk of any serious blowback. That’s because the threats that Rubio claims to be fighting are vastly, ludicrously overblown.



In a July 13 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, Rubio claimed that “U.S. soldiers, police officers, Border Patrol agents and elected leaders could be dragged before an international court, tried by judges from random countries across the globe, found guilty under international laws we neither consent to nor control, and then imprisoned thousands of miles from America.” He vowed to prevent this far-fetched scenario by dismantling the ICC — “brick by brick, if necessary.”
Yet the only time the ICC has investigated U.S. troops was in 2020, when the chief prosecutor briefly looked into alleged U.S. misconduct in Afghanistan. That investigation was soon dropped, and there has not been another ICC case involving the United States since.
Because the United States is not a party to the ICC, there is no way Border Patrol agents or police officers could possibly be indicted. There is a theoretical risk of U.S. soldiers being tried if they are accused of war crimes in countries that belong to the ICC. Elected leaders could conceivably be indicted, too, if they issue illegal orders to those soldiers. But in practice either scenario is very unlikely, because more than 100 countries have promised not to extradite Americans to The Hague. Iran is not a party to the ICC, and it would be difficult for the ICC to establish jurisdiction over seemingly unlawful U.S. attacks on alleged drug boats in international waters —especially now that Venezuela, where many of the boats are likely registered, has withdrawn from the ICC under U.S. pressure.



Perhaps Rubio is actually concerned about the threat not to the U.S. but to Israel, since the ICC issued an arrest warrant in 2024 for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (along with a now-dead Hamas commander). New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani briefly threatened to enforce the warrant when Netanyahu comes to New York, but the city’s lawyers told him he did not have the authority to do so.
The reality is that, while the court is flawed, it can also be useful — as Rubio himself recognized in 2022 when, as a senator, he supported the ICC’s investigation of Russian war crimes in Ukraine.
When not hyping the ICC threat, Rubio is hyping the Cuban threat. Last week the State Department issued a hyperbolic report that reads as if it were written by Joe McCarthy: “Cuba: The Capital of 21st Century Communism.” It claims that “the Cuban regime has waged a sustained campaign of subversion against the United States” that continues to the present day in the form of groups such as antifa and the Democratic Socialists of America. But it is heavy on history and light on evidence that current leftists are actually Cuban agents; presumably if such evidence existed, the Justice Department would indict them.



Most of the report is a walk down memory lane, blaming Cuba for supporting groups including the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers in the 1960s without mentioning the CIA’s efforts to overthrow the Cuban regime. It also alludes to the 1980s, when 49,000 Cuban personnel were deployed to Africa to support Soviet-backed regimes.
But those days are long gone. Today Cuba is a bankrupt country that, because of Marxist mismanagement and a crippling U.S. fuel blockade, can’t even keep its lights on. Its odious regime is a threat to its own people — not to the United States.





The State Department report appears to be a twofer: It can be used to support both a U.S. invasion of Cuba and a new Red Scare-style crackdown on progressive activists in the United States.
The latter motivation was obvious in the international conference that Rubio convened in mid-July to battle the supposed threat from left-wing extremism. He said that “the United States is building the infrastructure, the partnership, and the strategy to defeat the scourge of far-left terror,” but most of the examples he cited — from the Red Army Faction in West Germany to the Symbionese Liberation Army in the United States — are from the distant past.



A 2025 study from the Center for Strategic and International Studies found that left-wing violence in the U.S. has been rising in recent years but remains very low: “In the past decade … left-wing attacks have killed 13 victims, compared with 112 and 82 victims for right-wing and jihadist attacks, respectively.” The highest-profile recent cases of leftist violence were the horrifying killings of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, but in neither instance has evidence emerged linking the suspect to antifa or any other group.
The U.S. government should battle violent extremists of all persuasions — not just leftists. Unfortunately, Trump pardoned the Jan. 6, 2021, rioters, who committed the most serious act of political violence in modern U.S. history.

In vastly inflating the threats from what he calls “leftist nongovernment organizations, smug globalists, and hostile Third World governments,” Rubio is not advancing U.S. national interests. But he is advancing his own by improving his standing with Trump and his followers who were initially suspicious of his MAGA bona fides. It’s no coincidence that a recent poll showed him catching up to Vance in New Hampshire. Rubio is no more principled than Vance, but he’s a cleverer politician.

Rubio scares me more as our possible next President than Vance does.
 

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Without speaking for the individual you quoted, the laughable part is that Cuba is any type of threat to us. Thought that was kind of a no-brainer, but happy to point out obvious things.
Exactly.

Imagine how Cuba would look if some US administration had decided to treat it like we treat other countries. We'll never know for sure, of course.

America politicians - especially on the right - have made careers supporting our crazy policies toward Cuba. But, hey, it's worked!

Destroy their economy, then blame it on socialism. Americans lap it up.

Invade them and stage multiple assassination attempts and then act surprised when they invest in a harsh security infrastructure.
 
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Your kind of place, right Comrade?

"Systematic repression of dissent and peaceful assembly continued. Arbitrary detentions persisted. Denial of human rights, torture and other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment were commonplace in prisons."

Human rights in Cuba Amnesty International
External threats and oppression often result in internal oppression. Doesn't make it OK, but reasonable people pay attention to what causes the internal oppression.

It's like wars generate war crimes. Predictable. Not justifiable, but predictable. And the outside influence (the US in the case of Cuba) doesn't get to pretend it bears no responsibility.
 

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External threats and oppression often result in internal oppression. Doesn't make it OK, but reasonable people pay attention to what causes the internal oppression.

It's like wars generate war crimes. Predictable. Not justifiable, but predictable. And the outside influence (the US in the case of Cuba) doesn't get to pretend it bears no responsibility.
Were brutal police state tactics in China, Russia and North Korea also the fault of the US - or a built-in feature of Communist dictatorships?

Did Cuba let up after Obama eased US policies?
 

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I can't speak for that guy, but ... no, the current state of America does not crack me up.
You think the US is a police state dictatorship ?

Like I asked a different hysteric, name a Supreme Court decision Trump has not followed.
 

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Why are you asking such a stupid and irrelevant question?
Sad I have to explain this to you, but in a police state dictatorship, Supreme Court rulings would never go against the dictator - or even if they did, the dictator would not have to follow them

Recent rulings went against Trump on tariffs and birthright citizenship, among others.
 

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"[E]very accusation is a confession, because it’s the United States that has tried to overthrow the Cuban government from 1960, as we saw in the 1960 memo that says U.S. should use hunger and desperation to overthrow the Cuban government. It accuses Cuba of trying to interfere all over Latin America, when this has been the modus operandi of the United States to try to shape Latin America in its own interests. And it talks about Cuban interference in U.S. internal affairs. We say let’s look at Israel, that has had more of an impact on U.S. policy than Cuba could ever dream of."

[from the Democracy Now video above]
 

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Sad I have to explain this to you, but in a police state dictatorship, Supreme Court rulings would never go against the dictator - or even if they did, the dictator would not have to follow them

Recent rulings went against Trump on tariffs and birthright citizenship, among others.

Aw ... you're like one of those guys who tries to defend your Fuhrer from being called a Nazi because he hasn't exterminated the Jews.

You poor thing.

The Supreme Court is largely bought and paid for, and rarely disagrees with the Fuhrer. Most of his transgressions haven't reached the USSCt, those that have have largely been rubberstamped, and he's had only a couple that have gone against him, at least one of which can be easily sidestepped (and, even there, his bought and paid for justices sided with him).
 

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Aw ... you're like one of those guys who tries to defend your Fuhrer from being called a Nazi because he hasn't exterminated the Jews.

You poor thing.

The Supreme Court is largely bought and paid for, and rarely disagrees with the Fuhrer. Most of his transgressions haven't reached the USSCt, those that have have largely been rubberstamped, and he's had only a couple that have gone against him, at least one of which can be easily sidestepped (and, even there, his bought and paid for justices sided with him).
more than a couple:

  • Birthright Citizenship:
  • Removal of Federal Reserve Governor:
  • Sweeping Tariffs:
  • Late-Arriving Mail-In Ballots:
  • E. Jean Carroll Judgment: