Inside the Phone-Throwing Drama at the Troubled, Broke Democratic Party

m.knox

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Life inside the cult....

https://archive.is/Q10In#selection-3903.0-3903.71

The Democratic Party is so short on cash that leaders at its headquarters have undertaken a new gambit to mask the severity of the problems: asking vendors not to send bills until after the midterm elections.

The bookkeeping maneuver, which was described by three people briefed on it, is the latest sign of financial duress for the Democratic National Committee and its embattled leader as money troubles threaten to undercut Democratic momentum with 100 days until the midterms.
 
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Ghee Buttersnaps 2

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knox first thing

 

Scrubby

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Remember when Kamala ended her campaign in the red because she paid Beyonce millions for an endorsement (and people showed up expecting her to sing lol) then stiffed a bunch of small businesses because she couldn't pay then? Common Democrat L.

This couldn't be happening to a more deserving group of people. Imagine if act blue had been shut down by now. Dems wouldn't have two nickels to rub together without that fraud.
 

Palmerhawk

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Clearly the oligarchs are battling against the Democrats.
The GOP is completely owned by the billionaire class.

Gloating about alignment with the top 1% against the middle class is unbecoming.
Hope the bottom 90 % come out and vote for their interests and against the 1 % this fall.

But on campaign financing, you win,knox, you have the billionaires backing you....must feel great!
 

Scrubby

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Clearly the oligarchs are battling against the Democrats.
The GOP is completely owned by the billionaire class.

Gloating about alignment with the top 1% against the middle class is unbecoming.
Hope the bottom 90 % come out and vote for their interests and against the 1 % this fall.

But on campaign financing, you win,knox, you have the billionaires backing you....must feel great!
Lol the democrat party is THE party of the elite. Gates, Bezos, Soros, Zuckerberg, Dorset, epstein bff reid hoffman, etc....

Y'all loved musk too when his money flowed your way, until he acknowledged the obvious insanity of the party and advocated for commonsense. Stop pretending like the billionaire class doesn't back and control the party.
 
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dpic73

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Remember when Kamala ended her campaign in the red because she paid Beyonce millions for an endorsement (and people showed up expecting her to sing lol) then stiffed a bunch of small businesses because she couldn't pay then? Common Democrat L.

This couldn't be happening to a more deserving group of people. Imagine if act blue had been shut down by now. Dems wouldn't have two nickels to rub together without that fraud.
All you do is lie and you don't even give a ****.


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Scrubby

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Aardvark86

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D’s will be fine. In a year or so we’ll be talking about the impending demise of the r’s in a post Trump era. Rinse and repeat.
 
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baltimorened

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Clearly the oligarchs are battling against the Democrats.
The GOP is completely owned by the billionaire class.

Gloating about alignment with the top 1% against the middle class is unbecoming.
Hope the bottom 90 % come out and vote for their interests and against the 1 % this fall.

But on campaign financing, you win,knox, you have the billionaires backing you....must feel great!
well to be fair, if I'm a billionaire, I have money I'm never going to be able to spend...but one party wants to tax me, and the other doesn't. It would be a hard, hard decision ....which one should I support with donations?

I'm a little short of being a billionaire, but I have the same hard decision..one party wants to tax me more, one doesn't....who should I vote for???.
 

Paw Pad

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Clearly the oligarchs are battling against the Democrats.
The GOP is completely owned by the billionaire class.

Gloating about alignment with the top 1% against the middle class is unbecoming.
Hope the bottom 90 % come out and vote for their interests and against the 1 % this fall.

But on campaign financing, you win,knox, you have the billionaires backing you....must feel great!
All 994 of them. Boy , what a large contingent!
 

hawkeyetraveler

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well to be fair, if I'm a billionaire, I have money I'm never going to be able to spend...but one party wants to tax me, and the other doesn't. It would be a hard, hard decision ....which one should I support with donations?

I'm a little short of being a billionaire, but I have the same hard decision..one party wants to tax me more, one doesn't....who should I vote for???.
That’s kind of one sided no? It should depend on how much you value the things the taxes buy you and the state of our fiscal reality. If we were running a budget surplus then yeah, I would agree with your view. But we are slowly but surely bankrupting our country. We are all literally borrowing from our kids and grandkids future.

I want the government to spend dramatically less, but even under some pretty extreme cost cuts we would still need to RAISE taxes, not lower them. So this whole concept that we are taking your money is not really the full truth. You have that money expressly because we elect politicians who cut taxes while increasing spending. It’s the ultimate selfish move by all of us to create an obligation for future generations because we are all too damn selfish to pay a bit more while accepting fewer services from the government.

The selfishness is honestly breaking our country apart. And yeah, that goes doubly for the wealthiest among us.
 

alaskanseminole

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@hawkeyetraveler @baltimorened

I understand why people vote in their own financial interest...thats basic human nature. But IMO hawkeye's point is bigger than that. At some point, somebody has to care about the national balance sheet. Everybody wants lower taxes with more benefits but no meaningful spending cuts. Those three things can't coexist forever.

Everyone campaigns on the things voters like to hear...like lower taxes, while simultaneously promising someone else will foot the bill. When do we stop kicking the can down the dadgum road?
 

hawkeyetraveler

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@hawkeyetraveler @baltimorened

I understand why people vote in their own financial interest...thats basic human nature. But IMO hawkeye's point is bigger than that. At some point, somebody has to care about the national balance sheet. Everybody wants lower taxes with more benefits but no meaningful spending cuts. Those three things can't coexist forever.

Everyone campaigns on the things voters like to hear...like lower taxes, while simultaneously promising someone else will foot the bill. When do we stop kicking the can down the dadgum road?
Exactly. My solution is this:
  • Major federal budget cuts.
  • Substantial increase in taxes (I greatly prefer massive inheritance taxes because it avoids the negative incentive that come along with income taxes and mostly only affects trust fund kids who should work for their keep anyway)
But no politician is going to do that because you cannot get elected. So we will stupidly walk ourselves right off the fiscal cliff and end up in a hyperinflation cycle...which should go over super well in a country as armed to the teeth as we are.

So go ahead America, vote for more services from the Feds and lower taxes…give it another 10-20 years and watch what happens to your kids and grandkids future.
 

RockyMtNole

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GOP has the money advantage, the White House, and Congress…and is scared to death of the midterm elections.

Funny to watch.
 

baltimorened

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That’s kind of one sided no? It should depend on how much you value the things the taxes buy you and the state of our fiscal reality. If we were running a budget surplus then yeah, I would agree with your view. But we are slowly but surely bankrupting our country. We are all literally borrowing from our kids and grandkids future.

I want the government to spend dramatically less, but even under some pretty extreme cost cuts we would still need to RAISE taxes, not lower them. So this whole concept that we are taking your money is not really the full truth. You have that money expressly because we elect politicians who cut taxes while increasing spending. It’s the ultimate selfish move by all of us to create an obligation for future generations because we are all too damn selfish to pay a bit more while accepting fewer services from the government.

The selfishness is honestly breaking our country apart. And yeah, that goes doubly for the wealthiest among us.
here;s my point...right now I see absolutely no effort from either party to develop and implement a firm plan to take on the debt and deficit. When we raise taxes, we spend that money, and often more, on new or expanded programs.
We have a large segment of our population paying no federal income taxes, and we are putting all of our emphasis on taxing the wealth of about 1000 people - an idea we don't even know is constitutional, and the funds already being planned to be spent on new programs.

And as we're discovering fraud, which we've been eliminating since the Carter years, is going stronger than ever.

So, we're not serious about reducing the deficit or the debt. When we finally decide to get our fiscal house in order..and you're right we need spending cuts and tax increases (can't wait for the candidate that runs on that platform). When that happens I'll be more than happy to pay more taxes. Until then we're just p-ssing in the breeze.

EDIT: One more thing the US 50% ownership in AI companies...well that might provide a means for some deficit reduction...but no, the current discussion is how do we distribute that money to the people. We're simply just spend. spend, spend....
 
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hawkeyetraveler

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here;s my point...right now I see absolutely no effort from either party to develop and implement a firm plan to take on the debt and deficit. When we raise taxes, we spend that money, and often more, on new or expanded programs.
We have a large segment of our population paying no federal income taxes, and we are putting all of our emphasis on taxing the wealth of about 1000 people - an idea we don't even know is constitutional, and the funds already being planned to be spent on new programs.

And as we're discovering fraud, which we've been eliminating since the Carter years, is going stronger than ever.

So, we're not serious about reducing the deficit or the debt. When we finally decide to get our fiscal house in order..and you're right we need spending cuts and tax increases (can't wait for the candidate that runs on that platform). When that happens I'll be more than happy to pay more taxes. Until then we're just p-ssing in the breeze.
Definitely fair to say that neither party seems to be willing to focus on what I believe is the most existential issue facing our country. We are too busy eliminating Iranian nukes for the third time, shaming trans people, spending more money and the like.
 
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