What keeps people from voting is making them do it at one particular place in a 12 hour window, in person, waiting in line, taking potentially multiple hours, on a work day.
It’s not 1984 anymore.
It’s not 1984 anymore.
OT: Voter ID
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The cases were dismissed because the courts used “lack of standing” so they were unable to proceed. What that does is prevents any of the evidence from being heard and being part of the public record.
You never hear of any cases being lost when allowed to proceed and evidence is presented in court where both sides get to argue the merits of evidence.
I don't know what everyones financial situation is, 20 dollars might be an incredible amount of money to some people.Aren't you a teacher? You already get plenty of days-off during the school year.
Also, arent IDs already free in most states? Or cost like $20 and lasts 5 years? The cost of IDs wouldn't be what keeps people from voting.
I have had off on election day before, but not always.
I disagree, it just isn't. Especially not when we spend $20+ on so much other crap that's not nearly as important as voting.
Pretty sure even the worst spender could scrape together $4 per year to be able to vote.
Voter ID os one thing and we most all agree to that. However that is not the same as the SAVE Act. People think that is all the SAVE Act does but it is not!
Cases where the judges refuse to even proceed with further litigation should be a hint that there's no merit in the claims.
I got a ballot during Covid I didn’t request for local elections. Didn’t have prepaid postage to return. I had to use a stamp. That is a poll tax. But these retards prefer to be racist and sexist… claiming their kind of voters are too stupid to have an ID. It’s actually quite stunning to see how the Dems and their idiot followers treat each other. They are the most racist, sexist, bigoted people on the planet… pretending to be saviors for those they deem to be “lesser”. It’s quite amusing.
Almost every state, with the exception of Alabama, Mississippi and New Hampshire offer early in person voting. So that isn't even a valid concern.
Eight states and Washington, D.C., run elections primarily by mail, though all retain some early in-person voting options for voters who need or prefer it.
Early in-person voting periods vary by state:
- Length: Early voting periods range in length from three to 46 days; the average is 20 days.
- Start date: Early in-person voting may begin as early as 50 days before the election, or as late as the Friday before the election. The average start date is 27 days before the election.
- End date: Early voting typically ends just a few days before Election Day.
- Weekend early voting: Of the states that allow early in-person voting (excluding the states that run elections primarily by mail), 25 and Puerto Rico require some weekend early voting. An additional 11 states either do not specify early voting hours in statute or allow localities to set their own early voting hours and days, so it is possible that some localities in those states offer weekend early voting. Of states with mostly-mail elections, Colorado, Hawaii and Nevada also require some early-in person voting on weekends.
- Saturday: 27 states offer voting on Saturday, including three mostly-mail states—Colorado, Hawaii and Nevada. Five other states (California, Kansas, Massachusetts, North Dakota and Vermont) allow local election officials to decide whether to offer Saturday voting.
- Sunday: 13 states (Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Texas and Virginia) offer Sunday voting. Eight states (California, Georgia, Kansas, Massachusetts, North Carolina, North Dakota, Vermont and Utah) allow local election officials to offer Sunday voting.
They have to have IDs to get SNAP, Medicaid, etc. This whole deal is clearly an attempt to be able to continue to stuff ballot boxes.Aren't you a teacher? You already get plenty of days-off during the school year.
Also, arent IDs already free in most states? Or cost like $20 and lasts 5 years? The cost of IDs wouldn't be what keeps people from voting.
OR that they’re activists who have no interest in enforcing laws they disagree with.
Well this was a mic drop. States have bent over backwards to make voting as convenient as possible.
Let's see.... So far we've heard the excuse that 20 bucks is a lot of money... and voting in one place on one day (not true) is too inconvenient.
Tell me there's a better reason not to require proof of citizenship and ID to elect the most powerful person on the planet. Still waiting
RudyG ruined his legacy pimping for Trump's agenda.
Judges not appointed by ShitStain aren't obligated to do his bidding.
99% was clearly hyberbole
Election night results
Bass 220,000
Pratt 190,000
Raman 120,000
After election night
Bass 72,000
Pratt 28,000
Raman 128,000
Raman had more votes counted after election night than on election night. Since California is a predominantly a mail in voter state, the "democrats don't vote in person and on election day" argument is irrelevant. Additionally, only about 1 out of 4 votes for Bass were counted after election night, where Raman more than doubled her vote total from election night to the end of counting votes. She had more votes counted after election night than Bass and Pratt combined. Something is off.
Voting is sooooo super duper important that people need 20 days to squeeze it in, haha!
They'll say there hasn't been rampant fraud.
Apparently some fraud is not worth trying to stop. It must be rampant first.
Whatever your threshold is, then Venmo me that amount too.
Not at all. what other components of the bill would you like to discuss?
1st - The bill would require a person to provide proof they are a citizen of the US before they are registered to vote. (NJ stuff shows that simply isn't enough) Opponent claim this would eliminate most current online and mail registration methods. Damn - yes, proving you are who you are through online or mail can be easily done by any fraudster. Oh my gosh, providing a passport or a birth certificate when you register to vote.....what an inconvenience.
But wait, opponents claim it is already a law that illegal aliens cannot vote in elections. There are also laws that prohibit minors purchasing alcohol, driving a vehicle, boarding an airplane without an id. Yet minors purchase alcohol daily, people drive without a license and insurance daily, and even I have went through security at an airport with no id.
Oh wait there is more, people would have to prove their citizenship everytime they vote. You know who is against this? People who can't prove they are eligible to vote. Oh my gosh, you mean I may have to bring my birth certificate and my driver's license to the polling station? That is unfair, why can't I just send a picture from my home computer? Surely everyone is honest with who they are.
The entire argument against the SAVE act is either it being an inconvenience or people not having the proper documentation to prove citizenship.
See and not one person has asked for my Venmo to send me 20 dollars! Uggggg! ha
Of all the dumb posts, this might be at the top of the list.
20 bucks for the ability to exercise your right to vote for the President of the United States. Poor people will spend 20 bucks on a case of beer and pack of condoms any Saturday night of the month. "Oh, but don't require me to drop 20 for an ID to vote - that would be crazy I tell ya!"
Poor people need ID to get food assistance (SNAP). They need ID for public housing, shelters, Medicaid, prescriptions. Seriously - If 20 bucks being too much is your argument ... you are no debate champion.
We had one poster complain that having to buy a stamp was a "poll tax" (hard right winger poster too) but now 20 dollars is totally okay?
I'll send you 50 if you leave the board. Deal? That's 2.5x what ur asking for - how could you pass that up man? Free money!
Done! PM your Venmo.
50 dollars to never post here again? Amen...I will just spend more time on the old porn errrrrr science board.
Sigh... the receiving party sends their Venmo. But you know that - you just got called out for the umpteenth time ("20 bucks is a lot of money - if it's not, send me 20 bucks!")
Now you are trying to joke your way out of looking like a schmuck when your nonsense is exposed about 20 bucks. It's your MO, I get it. Just feels very Iowa-like.
Nope. Good news, you don't need to. Of course you know this, but the dance continues. Iowa-ish.
I don't use it that much so I really don't know. But you got it now! Hurry. Thanks for the free cash.
And also apologize for the ridiculous comments. But send the cash first.
I knew it!
if someone tells you they need the last 4 digits of your phone number to "verify" a Venmo payment to you, that can be a red flag for a scam. A real Venmo payment does not require you to give a stranger a code or personal verification information.
Lol. Yeah, you got me. I'm trying to scam you into me paying you to go away.
Lol. Yeah, you got me. I'm trying to scam you into me paying you.
First time I have paid Venmo without confirming the recipient.
Worth it. Deuces.
Lol. Yeah, you got me. I'm trying to scam you into me paying you.
First time I have paid Venmo without confirming the recipient.
Worth it. Deuces.
