Ex PSU player Justin Williams with Ziegler

[Truthtelling]

Dranov and Dad heard the story first hand. Empirical evidence is clear and unambiguous. They heard nothing that needed to be reported to law enforcement or child protective services.

That IS true BUT what MM told CSS and Joe DID require reporting which CSS did not do and went to jail for not doing it. Thanks for making my point for me that MM told CSS and Joe more than he told his Dad and Dranov or CSS wouldn't have gone to jail.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Pure

MM's testimony at trial and Joe's as well refute what you are saying. He saw Sandusky doing CSA to the child. The "ear witness" narrative is false and was promulgated by Ziegler.

BS

MM's testimony at trial and Joe's as well refute what you are saying. He saw Sandusky doing CSA to the child. The "ear witness" narrative is false and was promulgated by Ziegler.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

As detailed in my report, the e-mails and contemporary documents from 2001 show that, despite Mr. Paterno's knowledge and McQueary's observations, four of the most powerful officials at Penn State agreed not to report Sandusky's activity to public officials. As made clear in the attachments to our report, on February 25, 2001, Messrs. Spanier, Curley and Schulz agreed to report Sandusky's abuse to the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare. On February 27, 2001, these men agreed that reporting to DPW was not required, reasoning in the words of Graham Spanier that "[t]he only downside for us is if the message isn't 'heard' and acted upon, and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it." The only known, intervening factor between the decision made on February 25, 2001 and the agreement not to report on February 27, 2001, was Mr. Paterno's February 26th conversation with Mr. Curley regarding what to do about Sandusky. Again, this conversation was memorialized in the contemporary email, where Mr. Curley said "[a]fter giving it more thought and talking it over with Joe yesterday -- I am uncomfortable with what we agreed were the next steps."

Louis Freeh

Pure horse crap.

 

[Truthtelling]

Did Jack Raykovitz make a report? Or get Jerry keys to the Hotel fitness room down the street?

Raykovitz was never told anything actionable by Curley. Same with Dranov and Dad McQuery. Curley here, was trying to get a twofer. Tell Raykovitz noting actionable so he wouldn't report it but then use his talking to Raykovitz as an alibi to claim later he (Curley) did report it. The gambit failed and Curley did time in the clink.

 

[Truthtelling]

The sworn testimony of Dranov, CSS, Joe, and Dad all said Mike told them about anal rape? Really? Can you post that for me?

No the testimony of Dranov and Dad said that MM never told them anything actionable and that is why they weren't prosecuted. However, he did tell Joe and CSS that what he saw was inappropriate sexual contact between Sandusky and the child. They didn't report it and CSS then went to the hoosgow.

 

[Truthtelling]

Please share this testimony with us.

Go look it up. Educate yourself.

 

[Truthtelling]

But Mike did all he could have or should have done? Same with his family & Dranov? Really?

Mike was a GA and a small fry who blew the whistle on a local god. You might argue he should have done more than go to Joppa for protection but I doubt you personally would have done any different if you were in his shoes. MM is more a victim than a bad guy like Joe and CSS were.

 

[Truthtelling]

I'm not jealous of having my legacy involving protection of a p3do like Joe.

 

[Tor_Eckman]

Go look it up. Educate yourself.

As I thought, you have nothing.

 

[Tor_Eckman]

Mike was a GA and a small fry who blew the whistle on a local god. You might argue he should have done more than go to Joppa for protection but I doubt you personally would have done any different if you were in his shoes. MM is more a victim than a bad guy like Joe and CSS were.

There you go go again, projecting.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

I'm not jealous of having my legacy involving protection of a p3do like Joe.

The cathedral of learning stairwell awaits you, your movement and the socks and utrou you have left behind many times before.

 

[Truthtelling]

As I thought, you have nothing.

Not going to do your work for you. Sorry. You're wrong.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Not going to do your work for you. Sorry. You're wrong.

Go to the stairwell clown.

 

[Tor_Eckman]

Not going to do your work for you. Sorry. You're wrong.

You're full of

Put up or shut up,

 

[Nittering Nabob]

I'm not jealous of having my legacy involving protection of a p3do like Joe.

How is the weather in your mom’s Johnstown basement?

I assume it’s rather dank

 

[Truthtelling]

There you go go again, projecting.

I agree that you and MM probably share the same issues.

 

[RolexKong]

Wasn't it later established that Jerry had been diagnosed with ED and it was impossible for him to be engaged in any sodomy?

No, it was not.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

No, it was not.

It wasn't "established"but it did exist in his medical records. It was not brought out at trial by Jerry's request.

 

[RolexKong]

It wasn't "established"but it did exist in his medical records. It was not brought out at trial by Jerry's request.

Those "medical records", or at least ostensible citations from them, indicate that Sandusky suffered from conditions that contribute to erectile dysfunction. I've read no explicit diagnosis of erectile dysfunction, and while those conditions make it likely that he has ED, it is not impossible that he doesn't.

 

[Chumboshifko1]

Those "medical records", or at least ostensible citations from them, indicate that Sandusky suffered from conditions that contribute to erectile dysfunction. I've read no explicit diagnosis of erectile dysfunction, and while those conditions make it likely that he has ED, it is not impossible that he doesn't.

Anything is possible.

 

[Tor_Eckman]

I agree that you and MM probably share the same issues.

LieTeller returns. MM is your hero. Admit it, you're just a lying liar who lies like a rug.