Desperate ISU turning to socialism
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Iowa’s FY 24-25 BIG revenue = $87M
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ISU 2025 Big12 revenue share = $41.2M
No amount of sidetracking can overcome this huge disparity. Worse for ISU, the B12 payout amounts are expected to stabilize or decline slightly going forward while Iowa’s future B10 payouts are expected to increase - thereby widening even further the enormous revenue gap.
It’s a reality they cannot fix, only escape. Exit Campbell. Exit Pollard.
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ISU 2025 Big12 revenue share = $41.2M
No amount of sidetracking can overcome this huge disparity. Worse for ISU, the B12 payout amounts are expected to stabilize or decline slightly going forward while Iowa’s future B10 payouts are expected to increase - thereby widening even further the enormous revenue gap.
It’s a reality they cannot fix, only escape. Exit Campbell. Exit Pollard.
so UNI gets part of ISU's revenue, then? State school should be treated equally? unintended consequences
Maybe a Finance professor from Ivy could be persuaded to have a cup of coffee sit down with Clonewithasigh.
Clones coming here to "tell us how it is" is a constant source of amusement. Some things never change.
Hey Sigh Clown……
What happens in the next major conference realignment when the B1G and the SEC expand out to 48 teams? Your isu team will become part of the new G6 (or7). The conference may still be called the Big 12, but it will be schools left after the P2 pillages it and the ACC. Even if the P2 go to 54 schools (that would be 3 ‘leagues’ of 18), isu isn’t getting an invite.
What happens in the next major conference realignment when the B1G and the SEC expand out to 48 teams? Your isu team will become part of the new G6 (or7). The conference may still be called the Big 12, but it will be schools left after the P2 pillages it and the ACC. Even if the P2 go to 54 schools (that would be 3 ‘leagues’ of 18), isu isn’t getting an invite.
I actually think this is a likely. Clown U is in a very precarious position. It will all settle out. Pollard is bailing. He sees it coming. Campbell did as well. It’s not good.
lol. Matty spurned you. Jamie is leaving and will soon be followed by the basketball coach. All is not well.
I’m not sure the Mountain West is that desperate yet.
Well you thought wrong neither Iowa state or Iowa receive any direct institutional support. The state of Iowa needs to realize almost all other state universities are directly funding athletics. It will put the Iowa schools at a competitive disadvantage in the long term. 10-15 mil direct annual funding to state universities is not uncommon.
Do you really think the legislature (and voters) want to give money to ISU athletics? People complain enough about taxes as is.
Both schools appreciate the money (tax dollars) they get for educating their students. That is the job of a university. Asking for more cash to pay a quarterback will be a difficult sale.
PS- You cant have any UI sports money. The Big Ten and SEC say the same thing.
Big Ten and SEC schools are already using taxpayer money. Almost everyone else is already doing it. The reality is that Iowa and ISU athletic events are economic drivers for the State of Iowa. Taxpayer money is already used to grow and develop businesses, recreational facilities, etc.
Texas Tech a athletic department rolling in cash, receives over 14 mil in institutional support last year.
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Yeah, here's the thing. The University of Iowa athletic department doesn't have to do that.
Hasn’t Iowa State done just fine without taxpayer money? Isn’t the mentality in clown town that everything is just fine? Why the clamoring for money by your outgoing AD? I’ve heard time and time again from you clowns that you are strong and everything will be fine. You said Clown U is an economic driver for the state of Iowa. Won’t it continue to be going forward? What am I missing here.
In-state students at the start of the last school year:
U of Iowa: 18,015
Iowa State: 16,330
Enrollment Statistics - Office of the Registrar
www.registrar.iastate.edu
SO, Iswho is begging on street corners because they won't be able to field competitive teams and facilities going forward, and your here wanted to lump Iowa into that discussion. Here's a better plan. ISwho should drop down to FCS and compete at a level where they can be financially responsible going forward. Iowa like Wisconsin, Nebraska, (and what Kansas should be doing) should really only have one D1 FBS program.
This is true. It’s remarkable that Iowa supports two FBS football programs for a state this size. Minnesota, Arkansas, Louisiana, West Virginia, Nebraska, Wisconsin, and Wyoming all get by with one. Basketball is another conversation.
If the Legislature were ever going to get involved, it would make more sense to invest in the state’s flagship than keep duplicating somthing in a small population base.
I wonder if Campbell wasn’t thrilled with Iowa State’s NIL priorities and the increasing emphasis on basketball. Who knows. What we do know is Campbell reportedly passed on opportunities tied to Notre Dame, USC, Wisconsin, and NFL interest over the years. This time, when Penn State came calling, he was ready to leave. Penn State is an elite job, but something clearly changed. Coaches who repeatedly turn down marquee opportunities don’t usually reverse course for no reason.
If the Legislature were ever going to get involved, it would make more sense to invest in the state’s flagship than keep duplicating somthing in a small population base.
I wonder if Campbell wasn’t thrilled with Iowa State’s NIL priorities and the increasing emphasis on basketball. Who knows. What we do know is Campbell reportedly passed on opportunities tied to Notre Dame, USC, Wisconsin, and NFL interest over the years. This time, when Penn State came calling, he was ready to leave. Penn State is an elite job, but something clearly changed. Coaches who repeatedly turn down marquee opportunities don’t usually reverse course for no reason.
While I do love to see ISU suffer . . .
Do we really think Iowa's ability to compete for the CFP has improved under the new landscape? The teams that were already better also got more money and teams like the Texas schools that have uber wealthy donors can now throw as much money as they want at recruits.
Do we really think Iowa's ability to compete for the CFP has improved under the new landscape? The teams that were already better also got more money and teams like the Texas schools that have uber wealthy donors can now throw as much money as they want at recruits.
Are you saying Iowa citizen taxes support the Univ of Iowa Athletic teams?
AI searches disagree with you.
Historically, zero (or virtually zero) direct Iowa state tax revenue goes to the University of Iowa Department of Athletics.
Common Sense Institute +1Funding and Budget Structure
- Self-Supporting Auxiliary: The University of Iowa Athletics operates entirely as a self-sustaining auxiliary department separate from the state’s general fund appropriations.
Hawk Central +1
- Revenue Sources: Budgets are funded through ticket sales, athletic conference distributions (such as the Big Ten), media rights, corporate sponsorships, and private fundraising/donations.
www.thegazette.com +1
- Institutional Support: The department receives negligible to no direct financial operational support or tax allocations from the university's general academic fund or state taxpayers, relying instead on self-generated revenue streams.
Hawk Central
- Self-Supporting Auxiliary: The University of Iowa Athletics operates entirely as a self-sustaining auxiliary department separate from the state’s general fund appropriations.
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Cyclone Plastics is a butthurt clown fan. He he probably 24 years old and has no idea about the history of the two athletic departments.
He doesnt realize that one of the clowns best football teams around 1973 played in a run down dump of a stadium. Being from Des Moines I saw a few games in Clyde Williams stadium and in 1965 the attendance level was about 30,000 and 35K in 1970. They averaged about 20,000 while Iowa was averaging 50 to 60K.
I was at the historic 1972 Nebraska game at Clyde Williams where ISU tied highly ranked huskers due to a friend of my dad's who had an extra ticket. Exciting game but I had already been to many games at kinnick stadium..
Iowa has always had the edge in ticket sales, donations, etc and TV and radio revenues.
Yeah, there was certainly some behind closed doors stuff going on between Matt Campbell and Jamie Pollard. The people who know, including Campbell and Pollard, aren't talking.
Then why are you borrowing 50 mil from the university?
No I am saying the State of Iowa is one of the few states to not give institutional support to state athletic programs. Many states are and at high amounts.
Borrowing is not GIVING. I dont know the particulars of that 50 million as a loan as in interest rates, length of loan, etc.
I said Iowa and ISU do not receive institutional support, both universities are in the minority. The majority of states do currently.
Just to be clear, we agree on this, The original post alluded to ISU athletics receiving state support, both Iowa and ISU do not.
UNI athletics does receive some.
The Hawkeyes have no reason to do that. How about we give the hard-working tax payers of the Hawkeye State a break and not ask them to pay for Iowa and ISU athletics.
Joe from Oelwein can go to the games at considerable cost, or watch them on TV (he has to pay for that too). He has kids to feed and clothe, and chips in for his softball league.
Now you want to ask him to help pay for an ISU quarterback? I can predict Joe's two-word response to your idea.
The reality is there are many universities in P2 or ACC and Big12 that can flat out spend both of our state schools. Most are also getting 15-20 mil of direct support. We don’t need to have those budgets, but need to be in the game.
Iowa taxpayers are required to pay for many items they don’t want too. I would bet the majority of Iowans would support this.
Both universities would receive the same amount of support, so the overall discrepancy in athletic budgets would not change. ( ie Iowa would have more money).
Also Joe from Olewein would be asked to pay for revenue share agreement. NIL is a different deal all together.
The question is STILL, why are you and the other clones on our website with this drival. WE aren't asking for any money. If you'll need to be on welfare, so be it. You can;t possibly get enough in state aid to make any real difference for your shortfall, nor should you ....
And we are just fine with the arrangement.
Of course you agree with us Iowa fans that Iowa or ISU should NOT be receive institutional support for their athletic programs, correct? ISU doesn’t need state money to keep its economic impact. Right? I mean clown fans are loyal sons forever trues. Right. There is no need for more money. They have done pretty decent with the current situation.
ISU doesn’t need it. Their fans won’t leave they are loyal sons. Just stop it with this. Good lord. You want my money to go to a land grant non AAU football team while the Iowa waterways are polluted with nitrates. Good lord. That is bad priorities.
Pretty sure Joe from Oelwein thinks he pays enough to the universities now. He is more concerned with his son or daughter getting a quality education and degree.
And don't sell Joe short, he knows the difference between NIL and revenue sharing. The former he doesn't have to pay if he doesn't want to.
You lie. None of the sec schools and only Rutgers any Maryland in the BIG. Maybe it is time for a super league.
Joel from Oelwein is worried about clean drinking water for his grandkids. Funny how some of the same interests tied to Iowa’s water quality problems are also asking taxpayers to help prop up a farm school’s athletic department in pursuit of sports relevance.
Joel from Olwein gets high and drinks a lot of alcohol. You would too if you lived in Olwein.
RIP @ClonewithasighIn-state students at the start of the last school year:
U of Iowa: 18,015
Iowa State: 16,330
Enrollment Statistics - Office of the Registrar