No we are not. This thing is taking longer than it should because several times the Iranians have thought they were going to be able to do to Trump what they did with Obama, sign some papers, and get to do what they have always done. Iran is going to actually accept not building a nuke and they dont like that. So we are having to bomb the **** out them.
We were pitching a shutout several weeks in, what changed? How did they score?
Well moe, we wrecked a helicopter and a couple dudes died trying to defuse a drone.
I am sure Iran is ready to give up. I mean, how many times does it have to be obliterated? You would think without a Navy or Air Force or any more leaders, they would not be able to lob missiles and drones or control the Strait of Hormuz? I just have this itchy feeling our Government isn’t being so honest about how it it going.
You don't think those in charge of Iran will trade 50 of their own dead for 3 dead American soldiers? They absolutely will, bc they're some evil mofos who don't give a crap about their own people. They know dead Americans doesn't poll well for Trump.
Thats a hell of a deflection Moe. Its horrible we lost service members and Im not some blood thirsty war monger but the writing is on the wall. Iran thought it was going to do Iran things and and there may still be some division within Iranian leadership.
How is that a deflection? You asked the cost for Iran. I said they aren’t in as bad of shape as our gov says or they would still be lobbing missiles and controlling the strait. Are the obliterated or not? Yes or No? Simple question should get a simple answer.
"Im sure they are ready to give up".
Trump tried to blow them off the face of the earth...and failed multiple times.
The failed "controlled detonation" might indicate a lack of capable leadership.
Whoa, you sound mad. I was sarcastic when I said they were giving up. I also didn’t give any indication we are losing. Your overconfidence at the beginning of this is really what I am trying to convey. Now we are stuck in an ongoing quagmire.
Well, just for funszies why dont you post some numbers so we can discuss said quagmire.
You thinking some instructor from Fort bragg needs his *** chewed?
Do you see an end to this in sight? You sure did several months ago.
Let’s hope so. I will re-assess in a month or so…don’t get all pissy if I question you again. From everything I have seen we aren’t getting free passage through the strait without boots on the ground. Bombing doesn’t seem to be working
You think this is a matter of who kills more people? Who causes more destruction? If that’s the case then the US should just walk away. Open strait be damned. Who cares what it does to the global economy.
No, I think the real metric for measuring war isnt life cost, economic cost, military expenditures, leadership removals, assets seized, reputation cost or forced world safety obligations....its canasta.
Yeah, or you could say the world is being forced to evaluate how its going to operate without that strait being such an Achilles and Iranian leadership is ******* up the one good thing Iran had going for it.
Oh right on, we’ll reopen the old pipeline that was shut in 2003 after it was damaged by US and Iraqi forces.
You understand we can kill people fairly efficiently correct? Its a little more difficult than them lobing ****.
We’ve been killing people efficiently since this war started 4 months ago. How’s that impacting the Strait so far? How much more stomach do you think the U.S. people have for a sustained conflict in the ME before your entire gaggle of dipshits gets voted out of office?
Which is flat out stupid.
HIGH T DOESN'T ALLOW THAT.
Yes, surely the issue they had refusing the bomb was the result of the POTUS.....
well, I'd have to say that if they're still lobbing missiles and drones, something hasn't been obliterated.
