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TigerRagRob

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"Just months after President Trump's mass pardons for Jan. 6 rioters freed him from prison, a Florida man repeatedly sexually abused two middle-school aged children."

Spending a few years in prison for assault is overkill even if convicted of the crime. Many were never charged and convicted and were just political prisoners. By your logic the leftist that did the same and far worse should be in prison im gathering? Lets say I grant you this, was any of those people arrested 20 plus times before J6?
 

Huey Grey 2

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Spending a few years in prison for assault is overkill even if convicted of the crime. Many were never charged and convicted and were just political prisoners. By your logic the leftist that did the same and far worse should be in prison im gathering? Lets say I grant you this, was any of those people arrested 20 plus times before J6?
He broke into the capitol. Trump let him go free. And then he raped two kids. You're seriously saying you're okay with this?
 
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Spending a few years in prison for assault is overkill even if convicted of the crime. Many were never charged and convicted and were just political prisoners. By your logic the leftist that did the same and far worse should be in prison im gathering? Lets say I grant you this, was any of those people arrested 20 plus times before J6?
Convicted of assault. During a riot. At the US Capitol. During Certification of the election.
 

TigerRagRob

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He broke into the capitol. Trump let him go free. And then he raped two kids. You're seriously saying you're okay with this?
1-Got any proof that he broke into the capitol? Did he have his day in court or was he just being held without due process like most were by the Biden Admin for years?
2-Whats the standard sentence for it and had he been in jail way longer for said offense?
3-Did this person have a prior criminal history before the parden?
4- If he committed the rapes of kids he should die as far as Im concerned.
 

Huey Grey 2

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1-Got any proof that he broke into the capitol? Did he have his day in court or was he just being held without due process like most were by the Biden Admin for years?
2-Whats the standard sentence for it and had he been in jail way longer for said offense?
3-Did this person have a prior criminal history before the parden?
4- If he committed the rapes of kids he should die as far as Im concerned.
He was found guilty in a court of law for what he did on J6. Trump then pardoned him. And he went on to rape two young girls.

Those are the facts.

So I'm asking you if you're okay with Trump having pardoning him which gave him the freedom to rape kids?
 

firegiver

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1-Got any proof that he broke into the capitol? Did he have his day in court or was he just being held without due process like most were by the Biden Admin for years?
2-Whats the standard sentence for it and had he been in jail way longer for said offense?
3-Did this person have a prior criminal history before the parden?
4- If he committed the rapes of kids he should die as far as Im concerned.
Do you not know how to 'do your own research' to answer these questions?

Andrew Paul Johnson pleaded guilty to violent entry and disorderly conduct related to his actions during the January 6 attack, so he did not go to trial for those charges.

How are you defending criminals pretending it was a breach of justice that the people who attacked police officers and raided congress weren't criminals. They were. What are you even doing? Oh yah, I forgot, its a cult.
 

TigerRagRob

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Do you not know how to 'do your own research' to answer these questions?

Andrew Paul Johnson pleaded guilty to violent entry and disorderly conduct related to his actions during the January 6 attack, so he did not go to trial for those charges.

How are you defending criminals pretending it was a breach of justice that the people who attacked police officers and raided congress weren't criminals. They were. What are you even doing? Oh yah, I forgot, its a cult.
You made the claim so its your burden. Thats how debates work. Thats all you leftards do is make claims and dont provide proof. Because he pleaded guilt doesnt mean he was guilty of it. Like in many other cases they either agreed to plea or they would get 20 plus year sentences in a rigged system. Again how does that compare to leftist that did these things during the Biden admin? Oh wait they didnt serve time at all really...
 

Huey Grey 2

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You made the claim so its your burden. Thats how debates work. Thats all you leftards do is make claims and dont provide proof. Because he pleaded guilt doesnt mean he was guilty of it. Like in many other cases they either agreed to plea or they would get 20 plus year sentences in a rigged system. Again how does that compare to leftist that did these things during the Biden admin? Oh wait they didnt serve time at all really...
J6er: "I did it. I'm guilty."

Tiger: "This still doesn't mean he's guilty."
 

pjhawk

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Spending a few years in prison for assault is overkill even if convicted of the crime. Many were never charged and convicted and were just political prisoners. By your logic the leftist that did the same and far worse should be in prison im gathering? Lets say I grant you this, was any of those people arrested 20 plus times before J6?
Who is "the leftist"?
 
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pjhawk

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You made the claim so its your burden. Thats how debates work. Thats all you leftards do is make claims and dont provide proof. Because he pleaded guilt doesnt mean he was guilty of it. Like in many other cases they either agreed to plea or they would get 20 plus year sentences in a rigged system. Again how does that compare to leftist that did these things during the Biden admin? Oh wait they didnt serve time at all really...
Again, who are these "leftist"?
 
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dpic73

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You made the claim so its your burden. Thats how debates work. Thats all you leftards do is make claims and dont provide proof. Because he pleaded guilt doesnt mean he was guilty of it. Like in many other cases they either agreed to plea or they would get 20 plus year sentences in a rigged system. Again how does that compare to leftist that did these things during the Biden admin? Oh wait they didnt serve time at all really...
My question is why do you care about these people at all? I know you often try to make the comparison with BLM rioters but I coudn't care less what happened to them because they are criminals and no president could make me feel sorry for them. These people came to the Capitol based on a lie, illegally trespassed, beat cops, smeared **** on the walls and did over 3 million dollars worth of damage. Why defend them at all?
 

dpic73

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@dpic73 thinks harassing kids is cool.. Way to go man!!!

LMFAO...
Bubba J What GIF by Jeff Dunham
 

TigerRagRob

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My question is why do you care about these people at all? I know you often try to make the comparison with BLM rioters but I coudn't care less what happened to them because they are criminals and no president could make me feel sorry for them. These people came to the Capitol based on a lie, illegally trespassed, beat cops, smeared **** on the walls and did over 3 million dollars worth of damage. Why defend them at all?
I care about the innocent people that got fake charges that were not violent and got invited inside by police then charged. I care about the ones who's rights got violated by being held for years without charge or trial. Why do you care so much about these people but supported the left when they did these types of acts and worse? More cops were hurt and damage done in May 2020 DC insurrection that attacked the WH than J6. DC was burning that day almost as bad as when the Brits set it on fire...
 
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Allornothing

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Do you not know how to 'do your own research' to answer these questions?

Andrew Paul Johnson pleaded guilty to violent entry and disorderly conduct related to his actions during the January 6 attack, so he did not go to trial for those charges.

How are you defending criminals pretending it was a breach of justice that the people who attacked police officers and raided congress weren't criminals. They were. What are you even doing? Oh yah, I forgot, its a cult.
I don't read a GD thing you write ******.
 

UrHuckleberry

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I care about the innocent people that got fake charges that were not violent and got invited inside by police then charged. I care about the ones who's rights got violated by being held for years without charge or trial. Why do you care so much about these people but supported the left when they did these types of acts and worse? More cops were hurt and damage done in May 2020 DC insurrection that attacked the WH than J6. DC was burning that day almost as bad as when the Brits set it on fire...
Can you give me the names of the innocent people who were held for years without charges or trials that weren't convicted? I am only seeing the extended holds for the ones charged and convicted of the most serious charges. Thanks in advance.
 

firegiver

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You made the claim so its your burden. Thats how debates work. Thats all you leftards do is make claims and dont provide proof. Because he pleaded guilt doesnt mean he was guilty of it. Like in many other cases they either agreed to plea or they would get 20 plus year sentences in a rigged system. Again how does that compare to leftist that did these things during the Biden admin? Oh wait they didnt serve time at all really...
Its a cult, you are in a cult. This is cult logic and behavior.
 

firegiver

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My question is why do you care about these people at all? I know you often try to make the comparison with BLM rioters but I coudn't care less what happened to them because they are criminals and no president could make me feel sorry for them. These people came to the Capitol based on a lie, illegally trespassed, beat cops, smeared **** on the walls and did over 3 million dollars worth of damage. Why defend them at all?
You know why.
It's because Trump pardoned them.
 

dpic73

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I care about the innocent people that got fake charges that were not violent and got invited inside by police then charged. I care about the ones who's rights got violated by being held for years without charge or trial. Why do you care so much about these people but supported the left when they did these types of acts and worse? More cops were hurt and damage done in May 2020 DC insurrection that attacked the WH than J6. DC was burning that day almost as bad as when the Brits set it on fire...
These people were not innocent and its a mis-characterization to say they were invited in and you know it, weve discussed this for 6 years. Do you care about innocent people who may have been charged in May 2020 or do you only care about these rioters?
 
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alaskanseminole

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Can you give me the names of the innocent people who were held for years without charges or trials that weren't convicted? I am only seeing the extended holds for the ones charged and convicted of the most serious charges. Thanks in advance.
I'll spring board off this to say a couple of things on this topic.

Over the years I've noticved the J6 discussion goes go one of two ways for the MAGA camp...either the conversation immediately shifts to BLM riots or people only post the videos of folks casually walking through the Capitol. Both can be true at the same time, no? The BLM riots happened. The J6 riots happened (and yes, they were violent). One doesn't erase or excuse the other.

There is plenty of video showing the violence outside the Capitol, officers being assaulted, barriers being breached and the crowd pretty much overwhelming security. What I found to be most disturbing were the videos from inside...specifically the group entering the SEnate chambers. One guy is recorded, and I quote, "While we're here, we might as well set up a government." Watching these people rifling through senators' desks and documents was pretty disturbing. For the first time in our nation's history, Congress was forced to halt the certification of a presidential election because a mob had taken over the Capitol. Regardless of your politics or what you think about the 2020 election, I can't wrap my brain around anyone defending this?
 

TigerRagRob

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He was found guilty in a court of law for what he did on J6. Trump then pardoned him. And he went on to rape two young girls.

Those are the facts.

So I'm asking you if you're okay with Trump having pardoning him which gave him the freedom to rape kids?
2-Whats the standard sentence for it and had he been in jail way longer for said offense?
 

TigerRagRob

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J6er: "I did it. I'm guilty."

Tiger: "This still doesn't mean he's guilty."
and both of those things can be true you simple minded fool. There was a former General that pled guilty for something he didnt do because the Biden admin said if he didnt they would go after his kid. So all those people you defend that committed crimes and took plea deals what are they? You have to either admit they are guilty now or admit the same for j6'ers now that took plea and not found guilty in a trial...
 

RockyMtNole

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and both of those things can be true you simple minded fool. There was a former General that pled guilty for something he didnt do because the Biden admin said if he didnt they would go after his kid. So all those people you defend that committed crimes and took plea deals what are they? You have to either admit they are guilty now or admit the same for j6'ers now that took plea and not found guilty in a trial...
What was this?
 
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yoshi121374

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firegiver

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I'll spring board off this to say a couple of things on this topic.

Over the years I've noticved the J6 discussion goes go one of two ways for the MAGA camp...either the conversation immediately shifts to BLM riots or people only post the videos of folks casually walking through the Capitol. Both can be true at the same time, no? The BLM riots happened. The J6 riots happened (and yes, they were violent). One doesn't erase or excuse the other.

There is plenty of video showing the violence outside the Capitol, officers being assaulted, barriers being breached and the crowd pretty much overwhelming security. What I found to be most disturbing were the videos from inside...specifically the group entering the SEnate chambers. One guy is recorded, and I quote, "While we're here, we might as well set up a government." Watching these people rifling through senators' desks and documents was pretty disturbing. For the first time in our nation's history, Congress was forced to halt the certification of a presidential election because a mob had taken over the Capitol. Regardless of your politics or what you think about the 2020 election, I can't wrap my brain around anyone defending this?
in their mind and in DJT's mind it was completely justified because the election was stolen.
Thats the lie that these people believe and why they act insane and feel they deserve no accountability. If you notice, this lie just wont die even though its been proven to be a lie many many many times.
 

TigerRagRob

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The guy Trump fired for lying to him?

So wild how y'all seem to forget that little fact.


That matters why to the point being made? Thats an example of somebody they forced to take a plea.
 

yoshi121374

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That matters why to the point being made? Thats an example of somebody they forced to take a plea.

So he was forced to take a plea and Trump believed it and fired him....

So either Trump is dumb, or you don't understand what happened and Flynn should have been fired.

So you are wrong or Trump was wrong, pick which one....