Trump to Speak Thursday Evening on Election Fraud

Scrubby

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It is quite interesting seeing liberals fight not to give voter roll information to the president of the united states and the dept. Of justice but couldn't care less when the Chinese communist party hacks 220 million voter files. Why is that? I suspect it is because the CCP also sent tens of thousands of military grade fake drivers licenses to the US so illegal voters could cast ballots for joe biden in the election.

Power is all that matters to the left. Classic communist existence.
 

yoshi121374

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It is quite interesting seeing liberals fight not to give voter roll information to the president of the united states and the dept. Of justice but couldn't care less when the Chinese communist party hacks 220 million voter files. Why is that? I suspect it is because the CCP also sent tens of thousands of military grade fake drivers licenses to the US so illegal voters could cast ballots for joe biden in the election.

Power is all that matters to the left. Classic communist existence.

Yeah.... You realize that the voter rolls are basically sold publically to anyone who wants them in most states?

States control their voting, not the president,not the federal government. He has no rights to the voter rolls which has been supported over a dozen times in courts.

He was vague so that you could fill in the misinformation low IQ suspicion for yourself as you just did.
 
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yoshi121374

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A dated video means nothing but link it. I havent seen it.
 

firegiver

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yawn....​

Former intelligence official calls address ‘dangerous’​

Sue Gordon, principal deputy director of national intelligence in Trump’s first term, called the president’s address “a dangerous speech about an incredibly important topic.” She said the intelligence community throughout Trump’s first term was alarmed about foreign interference in elections, but Trump scoffed at them, angered at the investigation of his campaign’s relationship with Russia.

“He had an entire term to deal with it and I don’t know how you can believe how the same community that told him about it, that was excoriated about it” wouldn’t warn him in 2020, Gordon said on CNN.

Conservative commentator John Solomon, who joined the White House staff last month and was seated in the East Room for Trump’s speech, later told MS NOW that “the intelligence community has zero evidence that someone has flipped – that a foreign power flipped -- a vote in 2020, ‘22 or ’24.”

But, he added, “We’re not through all the documents.”

Trump urged the Justice Department to conduct investigations and prosecutions, though it was unclear from his speech what sort of criminal conduct — if any — could be identified, proven and charged.

In a contrast with his concerns about foreign interference in elections, Trump in his new budget proposes a $707 million cut in the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency, the group charged with protecting American election systems from overseas cyberattacks. Trump and other conservatives have been frustrated that the organization pushed back on election claims in 2020 and beyond.
 

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Thats not any kind of smoking gun for the left. Solomon was accurately responding to questions based on current conditions. I do not see a date on that video either.
 

Scrubby

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yawn....​

Former intelligence official calls address ‘dangerous’​

Sue Gordon, principal deputy director of national intelligence in Trump’s first term, called the president’s address “a dangerous speech about an incredibly important topic.” She said the intelligence community throughout Trump’s first term was alarmed about foreign interference in elections, but Trump scoffed at them, angered at the investigation of his campaign’s relationship with Russia.

“He had an entire term to deal with it and I don’t know how you can believe how the same community that told him about it, that was excoriated about it” wouldn’t warn him in 2020, Gordon said on CNN.

Conservative commentator John Solomon, who joined the White House staff last month and was seated in the East Room for Trump’s speech, later told MS NOW that “the intelligence community has zero evidence that someone has flipped – that a foreign power flipped -- a vote in 2020, ‘22 or ’24.”

But, he added, “We’re not through all the documents.”

Trump urged the Justice Department to conduct investigations and prosecutions, though it was unclear from his speech what sort of criminal conduct — if any — could be identified, proven and charged.

In a contrast with his concerns about foreign interference in elections, Trump in his new budget proposes a $707 million cut in the U.S. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency, the group charged with protecting American election systems from overseas cyberattacks. Trump and other conservatives have been frustrated that the organization pushed back on election claims in 2020 and beyond.
Same former intelligence officials said the hunter biden laptop was Russian disinformation in 2020
 

firegiver

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Same former intelligence officials said the hunter biden laptop was Russian disinformation in 2020
Trump's own expert confirmed no votes were flipped.

Yall just got the bait and switch. Embarrassing, what a total face plant for MAGA conspiracy on 2020 election. Yall were totally bamboozled.
 

yoshi121374

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What are you even talking about? Guessing you also listened to zero seconds of what was said last night. "Ignorance is bliss"

I shared the video from Solomon, Trump's handpicked guy who compiled all of this mess. He admitted that no bites were changed, he admitted that Venezuela did not hack our system.

It was a direct admission that there was no fraud.
 
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dpic73

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It is quite interesting seeing liberals fight not to give voter roll information to the president of the united states and the dept. Of justice but couldn't care less when the Chinese communist party hacks 220 million voter files. Why is that? I suspect it is because the CCP also sent tens of thousands of military grade fake drivers licenses to the US so illegal voters could cast ballots for joe biden in the election.

Power is all that matters to the left. Classic communist existence.
The voter roll information is available to anyone who wants it but if China accessed it in 2018 and he wasn't told about it, it was HIS people that failed him. The documents he shared showed that Russia interfered with Biden by spreading lies about criminal activity regarding Burisma but he didn't mention it.

If he really cared about foreign actors meddling he wouldn't have dismantled the agencies and fired officials who monitor it when he took office last year and he wouldn't be firing the commissioners of the EAC today.

He does not care about any of this, he only cares that you believe something ominous happened so that you'll help him support the Voter Suppression bill, even though he gave you NOTHING to justify the need for it.
 

firegiver

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The receipts confirm everything trump said

The documentation right there says its completely unverified claim. They claim that because China created some false driver licenses.... and that something something that means they all voted. Theres no proof buddy. Begging the question ISN"T PROOF OF ANYTHING.

FACE PLANT
 

Scrubby

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The documentation right there says its completely unverified claim. They claim that because China created some false driver licenses.... and that something something that means they all voted. Theres no proof buddy. Begging the question ISN"T PROOF OF ANYTHING.

FACE PLANT
Lol the declassified files are just now starting to drop. So far they back up everything trump said last night. This is not going to be a fun time for you communists.

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The jig is up.
 

Scrubby

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You should probably notice the warning section and the context section. This is an embarrassment for yall.
You should really tap out now lol the receipts only get worse for you from here. If you'd actually listened to the speech instead of getting the hivemind talking points from NBC this might not be so awful for you. Alas, cultists will cult.
 

dpic73

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This is the real reason democrat run states refuse to turn over their voter rolls. They know. And now we do too.

Pass the SAVE act immediately
This is not proof of anything and state officials deny the claim about non-citizens on the rolls. Just because his corrupt, incompetent lackeys "say" something means nothing because they either don't know what they're looking at or they're intentionally trying to deceive you.


State officials say they do not understand how the figures were calculated because the Trump administration and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have not provided details or evidence showing how they arrived at those specific numbers.

The Response From Election Officials

State election leaders pushed back against the claims, highlighting that the administration bypassed normal communication channels and provided zero descriptions of their investigative process.
  • Nevada: Nevada Secretary of State Cisco Aguilar openly rejected the claim, noting that his office had not been contacted by DHS prior to the public announcement and stated, "We don’t even understand how they calculated those numbers". [1]
  • Data Reliability: Election experts and past reviews indicate that federal immigration databases, like the DHS SAVE system referenced in the White House fact sheet, frequently contain outdated information and can erroneously flag naturalized U.S. citizens as noncitizens.
  • Context on Noncitizen Voting: Studies and statewide audits consistently show that actual voting by noncitizens is rare and single-state audits typically see alleged match numbers drop drastically upon individual verification



 

Scrubby

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This is not proof of anything and state officials deny the claim about non-citizens on the rolls. Just because his corrupt, incompetent lackeys "say" something means nothing because they either don't know what they're looking at or they're intentionally trying to deceive you.


State officials say they do not understand how the figures were calculated because the Trump administration and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have not provided details or evidence showing how they arrived at those specific numbers.

The Response From Election Officials

State election leaders pushed back against the claims, highlighting that the administration bypassed normal communication channels and provided zero descriptions of their investigative process.
  • Nevada: Nevada Secretary of State Cisco Aguilar openly rejected the claim, noting that his office had not been contacted by DHS prior to the public announcement and stated, "We don’t even understand how they calculated those numbers". [1]
  • Data Reliability: Election experts and past reviews indicate that federal immigration databases, like the DHS SAVE system referenced in the White House fact sheet, frequently contain outdated information and can erroneously flag naturalized U.S. citizens as noncitizens.
  • Context on Noncitizen Voting: Studies and statewide audits consistently show that actual voting by noncitizens is rare and single-state audits typically see alleged match numbers drop drastically upon individual verification



"California said they don't cheat!"

Yeah, dems tell a lot of lies. That's why it takes newsom 6 weeks to "count" votes.
 

dpic73

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"California said they don't cheat!"

Yeah, dems tell a lot of lies. That's why it takes newsom 6 weeks to "count" votes.
Do you have proof that California cheated or does it just sound good to you? FTR, he didn't say California committed fraud though we understand you'll hear what you want to.
 
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Married with Children: “Election Night of the Living Dead” (Season 14, Episode Whatever – The AI Hallucination Special)Cold Open: The Bundy living room. Al is slumped on the couch in his Polk High shirt, a six-pack of cheap beer and a laptop (miraculously) open to the On3 boards. Peg is painting her nails. Bud and Kelly are fighting over the remote. The TV drones about Trump’s upcoming primetime address on election integrity.

forbes.com

Act 1: The Setup (Thread Starter Energy)Al Bundy (as Scrubby/TigerGrowls composite – the die-hard poster):
“Word in DC, kids – both Georgia senators are about to be declared illegitimate! Trump’s got the receipts, the FBI raid in Fulton County, Maduro’s capture – it’s all connected! Big announcement Thursday. This is it! The storm is here!”
He types furiously, hitting “post” with satisfaction, then leans back like he just dropped a Heisman winner.

on3.com

Character Analysis – Al/Scrubby:
Optimistic conspiratorial enthusiast. Believes power is being stolen by shadowy forces (CCP fake IDs, hacked voter rolls, etc.). Inaccuracies: Over-relies on unverified “word in DC,” timing coincidences (FBI raid, Maduro), and leaps to grand conclusions without public evidence. Trump’s speech teased “big news” on integrity/voting machines/foreign interference but was vague; no mass de-legitimization materialized in real-time reporting.

forbes.com +1

Psychological Profile: High agency + pattern-seeking (apophenia). Classic “just wait for the big reveal” optimism bias mixed with distrust of institutions. Motivated by perceived existential threat to democracy/fairness. Echoes Bundy’s futile hope that “this time the shoe store will pay off.”Peg Bundy (as yoshi121374/firegiver – the eye-rolling skeptic):
“Oh Al, not this again. Solomon himself admitted no votes were flipped. Voter rolls are public in most states anyway. States control elections, not the president waving a magic declassification wand. You’re just filling in the blanks with low-IQ suspicion.”

on3.com

Character Analysis – Peg/yoshi:
Fact-checker who enjoys dunking. Quick to cite contradictions (Solomon on CBS/MS NOW, court rulings on voter rolls, intelligence community consensus). Inaccuracies: Can overstate finality (“zero evidence” claims evolve as docs are reviewed; foreign interference probes are ongoing per reports) and dismiss legitimate concerns about election security/vulnerabilities that even officials acknowledge exist in principle.

on3.com

Psychological Profile: High skepticism + superiority. Enjoys the “gotcha” (irony noted in-thread). Represents intellectual condescension that fuels the other side’s “cultist” accusations. Peg-like in weaponizing dismissiveness to maintain household (or forum) dominance.
Act 2: Escalation (The Flame War)Bud Bundy (as TigerGrowls – the policy crusader):
“Dad’s right! Declare a national emergency! Voter ID, proof of citizenship, paper ballots only, no more counting past election night. Wayne Allen Root said it – Supreme Court 1983 precedent! No judge can stop it!”
Bud flexes, imagining himself as the hero poster with 47k posts.

on3.com

Inaccuracies: National emergency for elections is a massive overreach; courts would almost certainly challenge it. The 1983 reference (likely INS v. Chadha or similar) doesn’t grant unlimited unchecked power here. Practical and constitutional hurdles ignored.
Psychological Profile: Authoritarian-leaning problem-solver. Frustrated by procedural losses, seeks decisive executive action. Bundy male insecurity channeled into political grand strategy.Kelly Bundy (as firegiver/JWolf74 – the dismissive troll):
“Yawn. Trump’s own expert said no votes flipped. Y’all got bamboozled again. Biggest loser in the world. Just pack it up.”
Kelly flips hair, posts a meme, then goes back to Instagram.

on3.com

Character Analysis: Pure contempt + schadenfreude. Highlights contradictions (Solomon, intel officials). Inaccuracies: Overstates “face plant” – speech was vague/preview; reviews of documents were noted as incomplete. Ignores ongoing concerns about machines, mail-in security, and foreign data access that even critics don’t fully dismiss.

forbes.com

Psychological Profile: Low-effort contrarian. Enjoys the “yawn” superiority hit. Kelly-esque shallowness: politics as entertainment and dunking, not deep engagement.Neighbor Marcy (as ClemsonInAtlanta/dpic73 – the “every accusation is projection” type):
“Every accusation is a confession, Al! This is just to distract from Russia helping Trump in 2016 and 2024!”
Marcy lectures while Steve sighs in the background.Inaccuracies: Recycles old narratives; timeline/context often cherry-picked.
Psychological Profile: Mirror-image tribalism. Sees opponent as the real threat to democracy.Act 3: The Blow-Up & Resolution (Bundy Chaos)The family argues. Al rants about CCP hackers and fake driver’s licenses. Peg cites “former intelligence officials.” Bud wants emergency powers. Kelly calls them all idiots. They end up in a pile on the couch fighting over the remote as Trump’s speech teaser plays.Al’s closing monologue (to the camera, Bundy-style):
“You know what the real fraud is? This whole system – and my life. But at least on Thursday, for one night, the shoe store... I mean the country... might finally get some justice. Or not. Pass the beer.”Fade out on the family bickering as the On3 thread hits 100+ posts.Overall Episode Themes & TakeawaysInaccuracies across board: Pro-Trump side over-extrapolates rumors/timing into certainties. Skeptics overstate debunkings as permanent and dismiss security worries. Real context: Speech focused on declassified intel, vulnerabilities, foreign access claims – hotly debated but no singular “smoking gun” resolution in previews.

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Psychological Profiles: Classic polarization – motivated reasoning, confirmation bias, tribal signaling, and status-seeking via forum posting. Everyone projects bad faith on the other (“cultist,” “dangerous,” etc.).
Married with Children Twist: No one wins. The Bundys remain broke, dysfunctional, and hilariously entrenched. America’s election debates as eternal sitcom: loud, lowbrow, repetitive, and strangely comforting in its futility.

The thread perfectly captures the eternal American pastime: yelling past each other about elections while accomplishing nothing but dopamine hits from “owning” the other side. Just like the Bundys.
 

firegiver

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You should really tap out now lol the receipts only get worse for you from here. If you'd actually listened to the speech instead of getting the hivemind talking points from NBC this might not be so awful for you. Alas, cultists will cult.
bless your heart.
 

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The voter roll information is available to anyone who wants it but if China accessed it in 2018 and he wasn't told about it, it was HIS people that failed him. The documents he shared showed that Russia interfered with Biden by spreading lies about criminal activity regarding Burisma but he didn't mention it.

If he really cared about foreign actors meddling he wouldn't have dismantled the agencies and fired officials who monitor it when he took office last year and he wouldn't be firing the commissioners of the EAC today.

He does not care about any of this, he only cares that you believe something ominous happened so that you'll help him support the Voter Suppression bill, even though he gave you NOTHING to justify the need for it.
Wait wait, wait...
He told us that China stole something on his watch that they could have paid for and then he actually confirmed 90% of the Russia Hoax!?!?

Will Ferrell Lol GIF
 

Scrubby

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🚨 The U.S. Election System is Broken.

Here’s what the disclosures reveal:

- Hundreds of millions of American voter files in the hands of foreign govs
- Voting machines & ballot-counting systems exposed to hacking & manipulation
- China & other adversaries actively trying to meddle in elections
- Evidence of fraud being buried
- Hundreds of thousands of non-citizens & dead people still active on voter rolls
- No Voter ID, no Proof of Citizenship required
- Tens of millions of mail-in ballots floating unsecured

Enough is enough.
 
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