2026 SS Gestapo ICE

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Start with not MURDERING non illegal immigrants, maybe?
 

AlexanderUrinis

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why would the people who get elected screaming about immigration want to solve immigration?

telltale sign: when biden was president - and there was not shot at getting it signed - GOP presented an immigration reform bill. now that trump is president and GOP control both houses - no legislation proposed other than funding. everything is done through executive order. that's by design. the GOP "solution" to immigration makes it imperative they stay in power (from their perspective), which maintains immigration as a key campaign issue

personally, i want a legislative approach specifically so we don't get these wild swings in enforcement, president to president. set up a system that actually functions and everyone knows what the expectations and opportunities are.
💯- which is why I laid out the actual solution above. Every time I speak to someone about this issue, I tell them the solution and have yet to have anyone tell me it wouldn't work.

The problem is no one, and I mean NO ONE wants to actually fix it. Rs have the house, senate, exec, and SCOTUS right now. All we can muster is EOs that will be reversed the first month of the next D admin (if that is allowed to ever happen) and throwing hundreds of billion$ at the problem.

If the dog catches the car, they can't run on fear and BS. So, theater it is!
 

RagnarLothbrok

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Did they know he was a drug dealer before they shot him?

Because if not, then it is immaterial to the fact that they shot him.

Also, being a drug dealer is not punishable by death, so there is that.
Yeah, it’s amazing some people actually believe US law and the Constitution should be suspended if the dead suspect proves to be unlikable. The only justification for law enforcement killing a suspect is because of imminent danger to themselves or others. If that is the case here, and any reasonable person would conclude a credible, imminent danger did indeed exist, then the killing of said suspect is justified. If a reasonable person would not conclude any real danger existed, then it is not justified.

I haven’t looked into this particular case, but this sh*t is not hard. Or at least it shouldn’t be. The problem, as usual, is all of this sh*t is filtered through the lens of tribalism. In Minnesota, for example, in the cases of Renee Good and Alex Pretti, one shooting could be considered justified by most reasonable people to the extent of granting a little latitude to LEs, who are always at a high-level of risk (and I agree with granting a little latitude). So, IMO, while ICE f#cked up by aggressively charging at her vehicle, Renee Good put herself at risk by fleeing in a panic. Because I believe she was most likely panicking and not trying to harm anyone, the incident was extremely tragic and unfortunate. However, a reasonable case could be made for self-defense despite the errors in judgment by the involved ICE agents.

That, however, was not the case in the Alex Pretti shooting. The video evidence was clear. Pretti was facedown with his hands behind his back being restrained by several ICE agents. It was only after an agent removed a firearm from Pretti’s person (which Pretti was legally carrying) that ICE decided to Swiss cheese him. That was murder.

Of course, everyone saw both of these shootings through the lens of Team MAGA or Team Blue colored glasses. Hence, same sh*t, different incident.
 

AlexanderUrinis

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In your opinion, why doesn’t e-verify work?

In California, they have passed several laws restricting use of it. Why?
I was simply pointing out they his first sentence said "we have employed brown people for quite a while" and followed it up with "E-Verify!". That is contradictory in my book.

As to why states don't use it, I have no idea. Not something I know or care about personally. I assume it is difficult in a place like CA or WA where there is a ton of immigration for school, work, etc and a system complicates things because nuance. If E-Verify treats visa worker coming from China working for Amazon the same as an illegal from MX that wants to pick apples and send cash back home, you are looking at exceptions upon exceptions to process. AI likely helps that moving forward?
 
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Scrubby

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Did they know he was a drug dealer before they shot him?

Because if not, then it is immaterial to the fact that they shot him.

Also, being a drug dealer is not punishable by death, so there is that.
They knew he was trying to run them over with his car when they shot him. The fact that the illegal alien/would be murderer is also a drug dealer just proves how you retards will defend anything/anyone because you are in a cult.
 
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They also had a bipartisan bill ready to pass but Mango Mussolini ordered the beta cucks to kill it so he could campaign on the issue. That doesn’t excuse the border failure of the Biden administration, but it does aptly demonstrate Trump doesn’t give an actual sh*t about any issue that doesn’t serve him.

I mean, JFC, Trump recently managed to make a speech at someone else’s funeral almost entirely about Trump. Let that sink in.
You are a true dunce. I'm not even trolling, rags. You're an actual idiot.

Be honest for once. You don't even know what was in that garbage legislation, do you?
 

GesterHawk

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They knew he was trying to run them over with his car when they shot him. The fact that the illegal alien/would be murderer is also a drug dealer just proves how you retards will defend anything/anyone because you are in a cult.
The fact that you don't believe in due process for anyone on American soil and you revel in the death of a human being shows me how UnAmerican and morally bankrupt you are.
 
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Scrubby

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The fact that you don't believe in due process for anyone on American soul and you revel in the death of a human being shows me how UnAmerican and morally bankrupt you are.
"You gave to let them murder officers to give them justice"

No, actually you don't. Attempting to kill a law enforcement officer is a sure fire (pun intended) way to get yourself killed. The shooting was entirely justified and you are simping for a criminal. You're a bad person.
 

dpic73

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Did they know he was a drug dealer before they shot him?

Because if not, then it is immaterial to the fact that they shot him.

Also, being a drug dealer is not punishable by death, so there is that.
Word has just come out that they may not be drugs at all, so it appears they jumped the gun to create a narrative before any analysis has been done.

 

RagnarLothbrok

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You are a true dunce.
From your mouth to the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s ears.

I'm not even trolling, rags.
The f#ck you aren’t.

You're an actual idiot.
Was this ever debated?

Be honest for once.
Let me know when you start then I will consider it.

You don't even know what was in that garbage legislation, do you?
In summary, an expedited pathway to citizenship for passably f#ckable or hotter brown teens 16 or under willing to work in a secret trap house near Mar-a-Lago and receive anal sex and a golden shower from Donald Trump whenever called upon. For un-f#ckable women, half would be sent to work in Trump’s luxurious hotels for $50 dollars a day; the other half would be sent to sanctuary cities and summarily registered to vote as Democrats. For the men, any with known affiliated gang tattoos would be injected with a lethal dose of fentanyl. For the rest of the men, a quarter would be employed as pool/cabana boys at homes of those Republican MAGAs who had lonely housewives willing to keep quiet about their husbands’ Grindr accounts. Another quarter would join those women sent to sanctuary cities and also be registered as Democrats. The remaining half would be trained to become ICE agents.

The deal seemed pretty fair and bipartisan to me, but I guess ultimately Donald Trump was feeling the pinch from having his tit in a legal wringer and decided doing all he could to ensure a victory in November was more important than having a plethora of underage Mexican cuties to sexually assault, so ultimately he had no choice but to deliver no-go marching orders to the MAGA Idiot Brigade.

Okay, so I nailed it. What do I win?
 

GesterHawk

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"You gave to let them murder officers to give them justice"

No, actually you don't. Attempting to kill a law enforcement officer is a sure fire (pun intended) way to get yourself killed. The shooting was entirely justified and you are simping for a criminal. You're a bad person.
I am not simping for a "criminal". I am advocating for the actual rule of law.

I have yet to see a single compelling video to show that this was a clean kill.
 

Scrubby

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I am not simping for a "criminal". I am advocating for the actual rule of law.

I have yet to see a single compelling video to show that this was a clean kill.
"The rule of law" should have thrown him out of the country decades ago. He broke those laws and them decided to deal meth on top of that before weaponizing his car. Clean kill of a lifetime criminal (who you are simping for)
 
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RagnarLothbrok

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What TF does that even mean? Did Biden have the wall taken down? Gates opened wide. Damn, you guys are easy marks.
Yeah, it’s a little hyperbolic.

Like when Trump chumps accuse me of being a Communist phaggot libtard or unhinged leftist lunatics like @PW Herman refer to me as a neo-Nazi pimpin’, fascist-loving MAGA.

In the words of Joe Walsh: “…Everybody’s so different; I haven’t changed.”
 

Scrubby

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From your mouth to the Flying Spaghetti Monster’s ears.


The f#ck you aren’t.


Was this ever debated?


Let me know when you start then I will consider it.


In summary, an expedited pathway to citizenship for passably f#ckable or hotter brown teens 16 or under willing to work in a secret trap house near Mar-a-Lago and receive anal sex and a golden shower from Donald Trump whenever called upon. For un-f#ckable women, half would be sent to work in Trump’s luxurious hotels for $50 dollars a day; the other half would be sent to sanctuary cities and summarily registered to vote as Democrats. For the men, any with known affiliated gang tattoos would be injected with a lethal dose of fentanyl. For the rest of the men, a quarter would be employed as pool/cabana boys at homes of those Republican MAGAs who had lonely housewives willing to keep quiet about their husbands’ Grindr accounts. Another quarter would join those women sent to sanctuary cities and also be registered as Democrats. The remaining half would be trained to become ICE agents.

The deal seemed pretty fair and bipartisan to me, but I guess ultimately Donald Trump was feeling the pinch from having his tit in a legal wringer and decided doing all he could to ensure a victory in November was more important than having a plethora of underage Mexican cuties to sexually assault, so ultimately he had no choice but to deliver no-go marching orders to the MAGA Idiot Brigade.

Okay, so I nailed it. What do I win?
How many illegal aliens did it allow to cross the US border per day? Number only, please. You seemed to have left that important detail out for some weird reason.
 

jimneffer

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How many illegal aliens did it allow to cross the US border per day? Number only, please. You seemed to have left that important detail out for some weird reason.
without any enforcement? none.

it provided additional powers for completely shutting down the border during surge-type events

but this notion that it was a complete free-for-all before those border shut-down powers kicked in is entirely an invention of the legislation's opponents. a complete falsehood.
 

kidmike41

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When was the last time you heard of that happening?
I am not aware of anytime. I will say that during the Great Recession it was an even hotter topic around these parts than it is now. All large construction jobs were absolutely doing e-verify.
 

kidmike41

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How about not? Take out the minimal number of violent criminals. Leave people here going through the system legally alone. Stop breaking
Why just violent criminals? They are all criminals and what percentage aregoing through the system legally? They wouldn’t be illegal if they were legally going through the system.
 

GesterHawk

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I am not aware of anytime. I will say that during the Great Recession it was an even hotter topic around these parts than it is now. All large construction jobs were absolutely doing e-verify.
Do you think it has actually prevented the practice though?
 
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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Episode Title: "Gestapo on the Half-Shell: Shadows in the Sewer of 2026"The Turtles are in their lair watching hacked news feeds about aggressive ICE enforcement in 2026. Master Splinter meditates while the team argues over immigration, due process, rule of law, media narratives, and political incentives. Pizza is involved. Each Turtle (and ally) maps to a key poster from the thread.Character Assignments & Psychological BreakdownsRoseBowlorBust = April O'Neil (the passionate investigative reporter)
April storms in with a flood of BlueSky links, Guardian articles, and emotional family stories about ICE shootings and detention center deaths, framing enforcement as systemic overreach ("Gestapo"). She starts the whole frenzy.
Psychological breakdown: Strong empathy-driven activism paired with confirmation bias. April/Rosebowl selects and amplifies cases that fit a narrative of cruelty, sometimes without full context. In one prominent example, the individual turned out to have a criminal background involving methamphetamine and an alleged attempt to assault an officer—facts that undermined the initial sympathetic portrayal. This reflects "outrage journalism" psychology: rapid sharing for moral impact, slower correction when details complicate the story. It provides purpose and community validation but risks distorting overall reality.

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Scrubby = Raphael (the hot-headed, sarcastic enforcer)
Raph jumps in swinging, sarcastically dismantling the sob stories by revealing criminal details (drug dealer with meth who tried to run over the agent) and praising ICE for removing threats. “Thank you ICE!”
Psychological breakdown: Retributive justice orientation with low tolerance for perceived hypocrisy or selective empathy. Raph/Scrubby prioritizes public safety and law enforcement, using sharp sarcasm to puncture emotional appeals. Strengths include quick reality-testing and defense of order. Risks include appearing callous, which escalates tribal flames instead of bridging gaps.
Anon1750875978 = Michelangelo (the dramatic, hyperbolic party dude in crisis mode)
Mikey wails that this is “one of the darkest periods in American history… ALL BECAUSE OF ONE PERSON.”
Psychological breakdown: Catastrophizing and personalization of politics. This creates emotional catharsis and strong in-group identity by boiling complex issues down to a single villain. It heightens threat perception (useful for mobilization) but reduces nuance, personal agency, and openness to counter-evidence. Classic affective polarization style.

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lucas80 = Donatello (the witty tech nerd with dry sarcasm)
Donnie drops quips like “Jeffrey Epstein?” in response to the “one person” blame, later getting hit with a Kamala/Rogan counter-joke.
Psychological breakdown: Intellectual detachment via humor and whataboutism. Effective for defusing panic and coping with stress, but can sidestep genuine human costs or deeper policy discussion. High openness paired with contrarian instincts.

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AlexanderUrinis = Leonardo (the strategic but frustrated leader)
Leo calls out political theater, employer accountability as the real long-term fix, and the futility of endless money + rights-suspension without addressing demand.
Psychological breakdown: Systems-oriented pragmatism with integrative complexity. Sees incentives on multiple sides rather than pure heroes/villains. This leads to balanced critique but frustration when others stay in tribal mode. Represents the “adult in the room” who gets shouted down.

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kidmike41 = Splinter (the measured sensei)
Splinter calmly asks practical questions: “How do you propose the government go about removing illegal immigrants?” and discusses E-Verify implementation.
Psychological breakdown: Conscientious, rule-oriented, and implementation-focused. Less emotionally reactive, more interested in workable procedures and state-level realities. Provides grounding but often gets lost amid louder voices.

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Wobmam Rulez! / THE_DEVIL = Casey Jones (the vigilante hothead ally)
Casey rants about “his own army” of agents that taxpayers fund, invoking revolutionary spirit against tyranny.
Psychological breakdown: Anti-authoritarian with romantic revolutionary framing. Hyper-vigilant to concentrated power; channels legitimate oversight concerns but can tilt toward conspiratorial interpretations under emotional stress.

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TarponSpringsNole = Shredder (the chaotic provocateur)
Shredder drops bombs like “Naturalize them. They’re waaaay better citizens than mediocre, racist white dudes.”
Psychological breakdown: High disagreeableness used for provocation and status-signaling. Maximalist trolling triggers opponents effectively for engagement but destroys constructive dialogue. Pure edgelord energy.

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jimneffer / Rifler = Foot Clan analysts (cynical institutional observers)
They note that politicians on both sides benefit from keeping immigration broken as a perpetual campaign issue—GOP shifts from reform bills to executive action depending on who holds power.
Psychological breakdown: Public choice realism and institutional cynicism. Accurately diagnoses incentive problems but can foster resignation rather than solutions. Clear-eyed but low on optimism.

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Episode Arc: April’s initial reports get complicated by counter-facts mid-fight. Raph scores “I told you so” points. Leo pushes for consistent enforcement + legislative fixes. Mikey has an emotional moment. Donnie cracks jokes. They battle Foot Soldiers (bad-faith posts) and ultimately agree the sewer of online discourse needs better context, less outrage farming, and actual policy trade-offs. Pizza heals all.Cowabunga takeaway: Immigration enforcement involves real trade-offs between security, compassion, and incentives. Selective stories and hyperbole make for great thread drama—but cooler heads (and full facts) make better policy.
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Why just violent criminals? They are all criminals and what percentage aregoing through the system legally? They wouldn’t be illegal if they were legally going through the system.
Curious why you think they are all "criminals" for a civil offense? Civil and criminal are completely different, you understand that, right?
 
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kidmike41

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Curious why you think they are all "criminals" for a civil offense? Civil and criminal are completely different, you understand that, right?
It’s just the definition of the word.

Someone who has committed a crime, which is an illegal act punished by the government.

You understand that right? They know what they are doing is illegal and they don’t care. Why should we allow that?
 

Scrubby

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It’s just the definition of the word.

Someone who has committed a crime, which is an illegal act punished by the government.

You understand that right? They know what they are doing is illegal and they don’t care. Why should we allow that?
They know, they just pretend to not understand how things work to make discourse impossible