Libs bitching about ICE do not think about the why all the **** is happening. Open borders allowing criminals in caused most of the problems in the US! Yes libs your policies were caused by you so start directing your anger to who was responsible for allowing the open border!
Do libs ever think about the cause?
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They never accept the consequences of their poor decisions, which includes confronting ICE officers legally enforcing our immigration Law or deportation orders. I have Law enforcement in my Family (Son-in-law, Brother/retired, Father-in-Law/deceased) I don't know any one of them who would stand and do nothing while watching a suspect use their car attempting run down a fellow officer or themselves!
That is a suicide mission when confronting Law enforcement officers! You never hear the malcontents complaining about these deranged folks attacking ICE officers. All we hear is their anger when ICE kills someone who attacked them first!
So sick of 'em all.
For our far left libs on this board......I really don't care if you're liberal or democrat ; unwavering conformity to an ideology makes you an idiot.
Good post, but I'd be willing to submit a "chicken vs egg" argument on that one! Do they conform to Socialist ideology because they're idiots (ie: chickens), or is the ideology itself idiotic (ie: egg) and ultimately transforms them?
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Agreed, but that works both ways. For example, no true democrat or republican will admit some of Trump’s most popular policies have also been traditional and popular democrat policies.
They are idiots that lap up that ideology and conform to it. They have a total lack of common sense and decency.Good post, but I'd be willing to submit a "chicken vs egg" argument on that one! Do they conform to Socialist ideology because they're idiots (ie: chickens), or is the ideology itself idiotic (ie: egg) and ultimately transforms them?
"The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.” 1984–George Orwell.
How many idiots do we have in higher education? The whole system needs to be redesigned to focus on educating skills versus ideology. This is the problem we have,
Trump's current MAGA agenda represents nothing off the top of my head I can think of that even closely resembles traditional Democrat policies in the past 3 or 4 decades. Particularly those within the last decade...the Democrat party of today is totally radical and full of nothing but radical Socialist activists.
The immigration laws Trump is enforcing are one of Bill Clinton’s top campaign issues and he pushed them through congress and signed them into law. Even Obama enforced those laws. Doesn’t get more traditionally democrat than that.
Thanks for proving my point
Well I honestly don't think you made the point. The Immigration Laws operating under Clinton actually were initiated under Reagan (1986...Immigration reform & control act ) & was bi partisan. However those Immigration Laws passed under Reagan in the 80's aren't the problem with today's Democrats, it's their refusal to back enforcement.
Even the Clinton Democrats at least pretended to be in favor of strict enforcement. (at least that was their rhetoric) However as Leftists quickly discovered, the more immigrants they allowed into the country and signed up for our generous Social Welfare programs, the greater their voter base grew! Thus along came Obama in 2012 with his Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) caca to try and address the problem.
While it's true Obama backed some deportations, it paled by comparison of how many immigrants he and his anti-American Dems were encouraging to come here...even illegally. Biden just threw the border wide open. Again, there is nothing in Trump's current MAGA immigration policy enforcement that even remotely resembles anything either the Clinton Democrats of the 90's, Obama's DACA caca , Biden's "open borders" or today's radical anarchists in the Democratic Socialist movement supported. (particularly the mass deportations) If so, can you tell me what it is?
@SoCo I found this comparison that somewhat backs your assertion that Trump is simply carrying out the same Immigration policies some Dems backed. Surprisingly Obama had the most deportations, so some of what you say about Trump's current immigration enforcement policy is supported by this data. However, Dems today are nowhere near any of these numbers when it comes to their current policy objectives of open borders, no mass deportations and eliminating ICE.
What 30+ Years of Deportations Show Across 5 Presidents
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Our analysis covers fiscal year 1993 through June 26 of fiscal year 2025, encompassing the administrations of Democrat Bill Clinton, Republican George W. Bush, Democrat Barack Obama, Democrat Joe Biden, and Republican Donald Trump.
Clinton: 863,958 deportations | Annual average: 107,994
Bush: 2,021,965 deportations | Annual average: 252,745
Obama: 1,589,451 deportations | Annual average: 397,362 /1,160,255 | Annual average: 290,063
Trump: 935,346 deportations | Annual average: 233,836 (1st term)
creepy Joe: 545,252 deportations | Annual average: 136,313
Trump: 128,039 deportations | 5.2 months *Trump's second term average term numbers are not complete, Trump began his second administration with more than 1,000 deportations per day in the last weeks of January, according to ICE data obtained by the Deportation Data Project
What 30+ Years of Deportations Show Across 5 Presidents
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Our analysis covers fiscal year 1993 through June 26 of fiscal year 2025, encompassing the administrations of Democrat Bill Clinton, Republican George W. Bush, Democrat Barack Obama, Democrat Joe Biden, and Republican Donald Trump.
Clinton: 863,958 deportations | Annual average: 107,994
Bush: 2,021,965 deportations | Annual average: 252,745
Obama: 1,589,451 deportations | Annual average: 397,362 /1,160,255 | Annual average: 290,063
Trump: 935,346 deportations | Annual average: 233,836 (1st term)
creepy Joe: 545,252 deportations | Annual average: 136,313
Trump: 128,039 deportations | 5.2 months *Trump's second term average term numbers are not complete, Trump began his second administration with more than 1,000 deportations per day in the last weeks of January, according to ICE data obtained by the Deportation Data Project
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They think boys need tampons..
Asking them to think is like Asking a cactus to beg for water
Only a complete fool wouldn't admit that Trump policy is old school Democrat with a splash of republican.
Some of Trump's biggest policies are traditional strongholds for the democrats.
Immigration - Clinton's laws. I would expect the deportations to increase each year just like every other national statistic. More people = higher statistics generally across the board including crime, people on welfare, immigration figures.
Tough on Crime. the last federal crime bill was passed by Clinton
Fiscal responsibility although they go about it different ways. 1 wanted to tax, the other wants to clean up spending. But their goal is the same. In fact, I think Clinton and Obama each had at least 1 year with a balanced budget but I could be wrong on Obama. When is the last time we had a balanced budget under a Republican President? That needs to change.
Stay out of foreign wars. Trump did well with this until March 2026.
And abortion isn't much of a national issue anymore thanks to Trump. Hefinally got the Republicans to back off one of their most unpopular positions which put every politician in a swing state in a hole to start.
Trump was a democrat during the Cliton and Bush eras. His policies never changed. The parties did.
The consequences of their actions are to achieve their goals of destroying our Constitutional Republic. What they don't think about is what happens after that. They are delusional in thinking they will get all the power and get to be in charge. What they don't realize is this isn't Russia in 1917. Rules and laws are the only thing keeping them from getting hung in the streets. The anarchy they crave isn't going to end the way they hope. Nobody sane wants it to come to that but they seem to ok with threatening the majority of the country and that will work out for them. Personally I think they are mentally ill and don't understand human nature very well. Especially Patriotic Americans. Mostly I blame the so called moderate Democrats for not doing a better job of distancing themselves from traitors of the DSA.
Moe keeps laughing in this thread like people don't have access to other information. If they are reading this board dumbass moe they can Google how many people have been killed by Socialist Dictatorships. They will also learn the majority were killed after assisting in their own "Revolution" by their own leaders consolidating power. They don't give a **** about your problems. Your problems are just a tool to motivate you into being a useful idiot.
I don't disagree with your analysis, especially your last sentence. However I'd suggest it's primarily the Democrats who've tacked traditionally with the GOP "bedrock" issues and have now gone radical.
In both Clinton's and Obama's terms, it was Republicans who put the check on their spending. Welfare reform from Newt and the boys for Clinton. Sequestration from The Tea Party caucus in the case of Obama.
What you say about Trump favoring Democrats is true to the extent he needed their support for his real estate acquisitions in New York, but since he made himself a candidate for national office, there's nothing in the Democrat party's agenda he's either promoted or supported, especially with unrestricted abortion. Trump is the candidate who appointed SUPCO members who overturned Roe v Wade! No Democrat would ever have done that!
One thing I'm actually pleased to see since the radical Left has been asserting itself inside the Democrat party, is their lunacy has made our choices more clear. Democrats can't "pretend" anymore to favor fiscal responsibility, border security, or strong Law enforcement like they did under Clinton or Obama.
Now we see them for who they really are, and that makes our votes for the future of the country clear.
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While this is factually true, it's not for lack of Republicans trying. Every time a budget putting us on a glide path towards balance was submitted by Trump, Democrats pronounced it "dead on arrival". Every time a balanced budget amendment was presented to Congress and actually voted on, it was Democrats who killed the legislation.
(from AI sources)
Democrats announced Trump budgets "dead on arrival" multiple times, including in October 2025 during a government shutdown over funding disputes.
Democrats pan Trump’s budget proposal as ‘dead on arrival’
Democrats quickly panned President Trump’s fiscal 2021 budget proposal on Monday, pledging that it is “dead on arrival” on Capitol Hill. The $4.8 trillion plan includes cuts …
thehill.com
(from AI sources)
Balanced budget amendment proposals have been defeated in Congress multiple times since they were first introduced in the 1940s, with significant attempts occurring in the 1980s and 1990s. Notably, a 1995 proposal passed the House but fell just one vote short in the Senate
One Vote Away: The Balanced-Budget Amendment That Almost Passed | The Daily Economy
Decades after Congress missed a golden opportunity, it’s time to get serious about controlling runaway federal debt.
thedailyeconomy.org
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The last time the House voted on a BBA, it won a majority, but not the two-thirds needed to advance a constitutional amendment. Democrats voted against it, 178 to six.
JUST IN: Illegitimate Sen. Jon Ossoff (D-GA) is entering PANIC MODE right now at Trump DNI nominee Jay Clayton, frantically asking about the FBI raid on Fulton County 2020 election sites Ossoff was elected via FRAUD, he knows! OSSOFF: Are you aware Director Gabbard was present at the raid?! Are you aware? What is going on here?! You said you have an obligation to be honest and forthright! Why so angry,
@ossoff
? Expose it all!
The Commies have lost numerous times through out history yet they keep coming back for more. They are definitely a dedicated bunch of little retards.
No one on the Left is ever asked "was Biden elected by American voters only, who were fully vetted and all certified as legal citizens?"
Ans: No!
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We already know there was no "water main break" that was used as the excuse to suspend the Georgia vote counts on election night in '20. What we still to this day don't know is who ordered the suspension? Or who introduced of all the absentee mail in votes during the shutdown that were used to move Biden from well behind and losing, to narrowly winning by 11,000 votes once the counts resumed without observers?
That's what Osofff doesn't want revealed, because he and the rest of the cheating Left knows most of those votes (all for Biden btw) were fraudulent.
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Im assuming someone has already checked the water bill from that night . If a water main had broken the water bill would have skyrocketing.
There was no "water main break" @roadtrasheer ...it was just a ruse to suspend the vote counts that night, and kick out the observers.
Text messages cast doubt on Georgia officials’ ‘burst pipe’ excuse for pause in counting
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Officials in Georgia have not been able to produce any invoices or work orders related to a “burst pipe” at Atlanta’s State Farm Arena that was blamed for an abrupt pause in vote counting on election night. The only evidence for the burst pipe, released under freedom-of-information laws, was a text message exchange in which one senior employee at the stadium described it as “highly exaggerated … a slow leak that caused about an hour and a half delay” and that “we contained it quickly – it did not spread”. “The Fulton County attorney’s office responded on behalf of the County and concluded there are ‘no responsive records’ related to the alleged burst pipe or water main break – which are two completely different things, by the way,”
*editor's note
Again, we STILL don't know why so many so called "absentee ballots" were counted during the vote suspension, and only after observers were kicked out! We also have not been told why weren't they allowed back into the arena after the counting resumed and why were absentee ballots being counted during the suspension?
Ans: so Dems could cheat. Biden won virtually all of the absentee votes counted which brought him from far behind and losing before the mysterious vote suspension to eventually winning by only 11,000 votes after the counting resumed. We still don't even know if all those ballots counted were legitimate?
Justification unsealed for FBI’s seizure of 2020 Fulton County ballots
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A judge authorized the FBI’s extraordinary seizure of all the ballots cast in Fulton County. While FBI Special Agent Hugh Evans asserted that the alleged departures from protocol were sufficient to establish probable cause that two federal laws were broken, he attributed those crimes to “unknown persons.”
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